Montreal's attitude after THEY made a mistake

[mrsserendipity 0]

my husband and i knew each other way before all this happened for 4 years. it's insulting to have people assuming and questioning things.

People are just trying to understand your situation and trying to find ways that might be able to help you.

i'm just not understanding.... why when i post things i get skeptics, and when he does, he gets nothing but pages of sympathy and love.

i didn't sense any of that from that post that i just replied to. i didn't sense anything but accusation and skepticism.

heck, just go to his american posts and read it, that seems to make a huge difference

maybe it would help you to know that zyggy used to be a border agent and might be able to give you valuable insights if there were answers to his questions.

Right now you are really really upset, and justifiably so and it colours your perception. I went back and re-read your husband's thread about the interview, and I saw nothing but support for BOTH of you.

border patrol or not... i told everyone what happened and he chose to call me a liar. i feel like a broken record...

ALL THE PAPERS ALL THE DATES ALL THE COURT PAPERS ALL THE ORIGINALS ALL THE BORDER CROSSING THINGS....

RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER.

not papers i wrote and could fabricate, ORIGINAL PAPERS.

she chose not to LOOK at them

mr. border patrol woudn't be happy with any explanation i gave, since the truth doesn't seem to matter to anyone

i'm so sick of this.

if she actually believed and had anything that suggested i was there unlawfully at ANY time, she would've been able to tell me when and how.

[Cassie 8]

I give up.

I truly hope this is resolved speedily for you both.

[mrsserendipity 0]

my husband and i knew each other way before all this happened for 4 years. it's insulting to have people assuming and questioning things.

People are just trying to understand your situation and trying to find ways that might be able to help you.

i'm just not understanding.... why when i post things i get skeptics, and when he does, he gets nothing but pages of sympathy and love.

i didn't sense any of that from that post that i just replied to. i didn't sense anything but accusation and skepticism.

heck, just go to his american posts and read it, that seems to make a huge difference

maybe it would help you to know that zyggy used to be a border agent and might be able to give you valuable insights if there were answers to his questions.

Right now you are really really upset, and justifiably so and it colours your perception. I went back and re-read your husband's thread about the interview, and I saw nothing but support for BOTH of you.

my perception isn't tarnished. it appears montreal's is.

all along the journey our fancy shmancy lawyer kept telling us well nothing is for sure and 100%, but we just kept getting approved for the little things along the way. over the past years, i have never heard him say anything was 100% EXCEPT THAT THE CONSULATE WAS WRONG AND I NEVER ACCRUED ANY UNLAWFUL PRESENCE.

and now i have to keep telling jobs "no thank you" and changing plans and MORE WAITING. because she wouldn't look at our papers. how can SHE do THAT? how is she ALLOWED to do that?

[Cassie 8]

my husband and i knew each other way before all this happened for 4 years. it's insulting to have people assuming and questioning things.

People are just trying to understand your situation and trying to find ways that might be able to help you.

i'm just not understanding.... why when i post things i get skeptics, and when he does, he gets nothing but pages of sympathy and love.

i didn't sense any of that from that post that i just replied to. i didn't sense anything but accusation and skepticism.

heck, just go to his american posts and read it, that seems to make a huge difference

maybe it would help you to know that zyggy used to be a border agent and might be able to give you valuable insights if there were answers to his questions.

Right now you are really really upset, and justifiably so and it colours your perception. I went back and re-read your husband's thread about the interview, and I saw nothing but support for BOTH of you.

my perception isn't tarnished. it appears montreal's is.

all along the journey our fancy shmancy lawyer kept telling us well nothing is for sure and 100%, but we just kept getting approved for the little things along the way. over the past years, i have never heard him say anything was 100% EXCEPT THAT THE CONSULATE WAS WRONG AND I NEVER ACCRUED ANY UNLAWFUL PRESENCE.

and now i have to keep telling jobs "no thank you" and changing plans and MORE WAITING. because she wouldn't look at our papers. how can SHE do THAT? how is she ALLOWED to do that?

One: I wasn't referring to your perceptions of Montreal, I was referring to your perceptions of responses in this thread. I also have yet to see who has accused you of lying.

Two: I am in no way minimizing the heartache and stress you are going through right now, I personally cannot imagine what you are feeling right now.

Three: There are a lot of people here on VJ that are supportive and willing to help you in any way they can. Just give them a chance.

Again, I hope this gets sorted out for you, and soon.

[kitkat1 5]

People here are simply trying to look at all of the possibilities. One of those possibilities certainly *could* be that you actually did accrue more than 180 days of illegal presence. No one has or is calling you a liar. No one has said or is trying to say you are wrong. Only looking at all potential options.

You clearly had a horrible experience in Montreal. Now you need to focus on how to get it resolved, fast. Has your husband contacted American Citizen Services in Montreal? What does your senator's office say? What does you lawyer say? At this point, you need a plan to get it cleared up. Good luck.

[mrsserendipity 0]

People here are simply trying to look at all of the possibilities. One of those possibilities certainly *could* be that you actually did accrue more than 180 days of illegal presence. No one has or is calling you a liar. No one has said or is trying to say you are wrong. Only looking at all potential options.

You clearly had a horrible experience in Montreal. Now you need to focus on how to get it resolved, fast. Has your husband contacted American Citizen Services in Montreal? What does your senator's office say? What does you lawyer say? At this point, you need a plan to get it cleared up. Good luck.

i feel like a broken record i've mentioned all the different things we were told and what we did and what's going on. i give up.

i asked her when i was unlawful and also mentioned all of this numerous times. she had no answer for me. she didn't LOOK at my papers to even know what was going on.

i'm done trying to explain things :/

[kitkat1 5]

No one is forcing you to explain anything - just asking a few questions to try to get to the bottom of it. (Obviously there are cases where no matter what the beneficiary thinks happened, sometimes mistakes are made on dates so it's totally reasonable for people here to ask if there is any possibility that you were unlawfully present).

Fine. You have explained that you were not. No one said you were and no one said you were lying.

Again, now you need a plan to move forward - you need assistance from an elected official or a lawyer or a high level person at the consulate to straighten this out. Why not focus your energy on doing that?

[together2love 0]

No one is forcing you to explain anything - just asking a few questions to try to get to the bottom of it. (Obviously there are cases where no matter what the beneficiary thinks happened, sometimes mistakes are made on dates so it's totally reasonable for people here to ask if there is any possibility that you were unlawfully present).

Fine. You have explained that you were not. No one said you were and no one said you were lying.

Again, now you need a plan to move forward - you need assistance from an elected official or a lawyer or a high level person at the consulate to straighten this out. Why not focus your energy on doing that?

Yes, I have to admit that it seems after reading posts that nobody is trying to slam you. It seems that you are understandably frustrated and you really just posted this to vent, so we will no longer try to ask questions about your case. I hope your case is resoved soon.

[Killer_Clown_2009 0]

my husband and i knew each other way before all this happened for 4 years. it's insulting to have people assuming and questioning things.

People are just trying to understand your situation and trying to find ways that might be able to help you.

i'm just not understanding.... why when i post things i get skeptics, and when he does, he gets nothing but pages of sympathy and love.

i didn't sense any of that from that post that i just replied to. i didn't sense anything but accusation and skepticism.

heck, just go to his american posts and read it, that seems to make a huge difference

I have no idea who your husband, and I have no idea what your situation is, so I'll just stop reading and go to bed.

[mrsserendipity 0]

No one is forcing you to explain anything - just asking a few questions to try to get to the bottom of it. (Obviously there are cases where no matter what the beneficiary thinks happened, sometimes mistakes are made on dates so it's totally reasonable for people here to ask if there is any possibility that you were unlawfully present).

Fine. You have explained that you were not. No one said you were and no one said you were lying.

Again, now you need a plan to move forward - you need assistance from an elected official or a lawyer or a high level person at the consulate to straighten this out. Why not focus your energy on doing that?

the senator wa told it would be done ASAP and to ask us to call in a few days, we did, they were rude, went to 2 weeks, then to 4-6. called senator again, they said until a month has passed, they cannot call again to see what's up.

lawyer kept getting yelled at for calling too.

no other options.

[mrsserendipity 0]

my husband and i knew each other way before all this happened for 4 years. it's insulting to have people assuming and questioning things.

People are just trying to understand your situation and trying to find ways that might be able to help you.

i'm just not understanding.... why when i post things i get skeptics, and when he does, he gets nothing but pages of sympathy and love.

i didn't sense any of that from that post that i just replied to. i didn't sense anything but accusation and skepticism.

heck, just go to his american posts and read it, that seems to make a huge difference

I have no idea who your husband, and I have no idea what your situation is, so I'll just stop reading and go to bed.

considering that was in my first sentence, i assumed you read it. as for my situation, i have mentioned it in this thread and others. i didn't want to keep making the same threads, so i just made reference to the ones that explain it in more detail. if you had or have questions, ask me. all i'm doing for couple months now is just more waiting anyway, nothing but time. nothing i can do. nothing senator or lawyer can do, they will not even speak to us, said they will get to us when it's done and to not call again (even though they were the ones who kept telling us when to call).

[ladykelia 0]

I read yours and your husband's stories. What the agent at Montreal did was utter BS. I would certainly be pissed off, and you definately have every right to be! Even if there was something wrong with your case (which I don't think there was), it is completely inexcusable that she wouldn't even look at your evidence. Why bother with waivers and all that hoopla if she wasn't going to bother looking at it? I haven't had my interview yet (I'll be at Vancouver) but being in Regina, I know this isn't going to be a cheap or easy trip to make. I would be devastated and seek vengeance if they just dismissed my case out of hand after waiting all this time and spending all of this money. Her attitude seems to be completely out of line. Did you kick her favorite dog or something?Is there no accountability in this system at all? I hope your case officer get some sort of punishment or is dismissed from consular services.

My sympathies are certainly with you and your husband, and I'm sorry that you haven't gotten the support you desire.

Lesse, your husband posted this story back on April 9, correct? Has anything positive happened since then?

[mrsserendipity 0]

People here are simply trying to look at all of the possibilities. One of those possibilities certainly *could* be that you actually did accrue more than 180 days of illegal presence. No one has or is calling you a liar. No one has said or is trying to say you are wrong. Only looking at all potential options.

You clearly had a horrible experience in Montreal. Now you need to focus on how to get it resolved, fast. Has your husband contacted American Citizen Services in Montreal? What does your senator's office say? What does you lawyer say? At this point, you need a plan to get it cleared up. Good luck.

there is no way i ever accrued any unlawful presence. we had several lawyers look at all of my files that i signed off that they could look through. senator's immigration advisor looked at everything. everyone said it was a "mistake." we had a summary of all our dates from the supreme court that our lawyer asked for, there were no gaps, there was nothing. there is simply no chance. or i would've just filed the 601 to begin with. i asked her when and how and she had no answer. she simply thought i was just trying to get into the states or something. i would've loved to talk about my marriage and relationship, too, but it was never brought up :/ our relationship was solid, so i guess she had to make up something.

the law plainly states when you are waiting for a case to be decided, whether original or appeal or whatever, no unlawful presence is accrued. never any gaps. just had to look at the chart from the supreme court. plus no minors can accrue unlawful presence. plus no one can for anything before 1997. there's a whole section on it. i've read it all. lawyer, senator, we're all read it all. none of it applies to me. PLUS... it mentions the burden is not on the visa applicant to have written proof for every day they were in the US. even though i could, i suppose, with school records and work pay stubs. which i also had with me

[mrsserendipity 0]

I read yours and your husband's stories. What the agent at Montreal did was utter BS. I would certainly be pissed off, and you definately have every right to be! Even if there was something wrong with your case (which I don't think there was), it is completely inexcusable that she wouldn't even look at your evidence. Why bother with waivers and all that hoopla if she wasn't going to bother looking at it? I haven't had my interview yet (I'll be at Vancouver) but being in Regina, I know this isn't going to be a cheap or easy trip to make. I would be devastated and seek vengeance if they just dismissed my case out of hand after waiting all this time and spending all of this money. Her attitude seems to be completely out of line. Did you kick her favorite dog or something?Is there no accountability in this system at all? I hope your case officer get some sort of punishment or is dismissed from consular services.

My sympathies are certainly with you and your husband, and I'm sorry that you haven't gotten the support you desire.

Lesse, your husband posted this story back on April 9, correct? Has anything positive happened since then?

lol, no, i did not abuse her doggie. you'd think i did much worse. don't they have cameras in those little rooms? i noticed they had speakers so they can hear us better. i'm not sure how vancouver has it. there should definately BE cameras in the rooms, so neither the applicants nor the consulates can be mean or rude i felt great that day, i was dressed in a new black suit, my makeup looked amazing, i even ironed all of our clothes at the hotel, i was smiley and bright and cheerful! we had like 5 inches worth of extra documents and papers juuuuuust in case, i wasnt worried at all. heck i even obtained clearance from homeland security officer from detroit. maybe she was PMSing?

[Flames9_RN 358]

I have NEVER seen Zyggy been rude to anyone on VJ and he is trying to HELP!!! He has been a very valuable asset to VJ, would be silly not to listen to him. I was in Croatia on a United nations tour in 1993, beautiful county. Best of luck

Edited May 3, 2007 by flames9