Montreal's attitude after THEY made a mistake

[mrsserendipity 0]

see my husband's post about what happened, his vj name is bowflex. i'm too heartbroken and in a rage to talk more about it.

basically we had all our applications approved, all supporting documents, the consulate officer was so rude and wouldn't look at ANYTHING we gave her. i don't understand why she just kept being rude to me and snapish and a b*tch. why wouldn't she look at our things? isn't that what the interview was for? she didn't ask us ONE question about our relationship. just said denied cause i was in the us unlawfully for over 180 days. she pulled that out of her BUUUUTT. i was NEVER there unlawfully.

so our lawyer sent in asking for them to review and actually look at our documents. they said 7-10 days. michigan senator called them the next day, montreal called them and fed them ####### about looking at it ASAP so they won't call again. we wait two weeks, we call, they say oh it's on her desk. WE FREAKING LOOK AT IT YOU #w^$#@^# 6$^$^@$%@ .

IT WAS YOOOOOOOOOOOOUR "MISTAKE"

our lawyer called, she was told call back couple days. we call back couple days and the lady went OFF on my husband yelling why we were calling so early, and now it's gonna be 4-6 MORE weeks.

&%^# (&*^$%$*&)* :angry: :angry: :angry:

HOW CAN SHE JUST NOT LOOK AT ANY OF OUR PAPERS AND DENY ME FOR SOME REASON SHE PULLED OUT OF HER #######

and now we have to wait more months?

can i transfer my case to vancouver? if so, let me know how

I HAVE CONTACTED OUR LOCAL NEWS STATIONS.

I WILL DRAG HER NAME THROUGH ALL THE MUD I CAN FIND. HOW CAN SHE DO THIS? I DID EVERYTHING RIGHT. I WAS PLEASANT AND NICE AND WORE A NICE SUIT TO THE INTERVIEW, HAD MORE DOCUMENTS THAN THEY EVEN ASK FOR, THEN SHE JUST CALLS ME NAMES AND IS RUDE.

and yes, our lawyer has already filed complaints against her with numerous agencies

i've been with my husband for 4 years. i lived in the us for 15 yrs and had no problems. we didn't even get married while i was in the states so it doesnt look fishy. we waited two years after i was in canada.

i did everything right :crying:

[neiks 19]

Oh, man! Hugs to you. I'm soooo ticked at Montreal right now too.

[ramos96 1]

<big hug>

Sorry it is not going so smooth for you.

Humbly,

Ramos

[Flames9_RN 358]

I'm not tryin gto pick a fight, but how can u LIVE in the USA for fifteen years? Where you on another type of visa? Hope it works out. if your on a cr-1 or ir-1, mtl is the only place in Canada to do the interview.

[mrsserendipity 0]

I'm not tryin gto pick a fight, but how can u LIVE in the USA for fifteen years? Where you on another type of visa? Hope it works out. if your on a cr-1 or ir-1, mtl is the only place in Canada to do the interview.

my family went to the us when yugoslavia was falling apart, seeking refugee status. they kept neither denying us nor approving us, but just asking for more documents and info on the country. which then split in serbia and montenegro, so a whole new case and problem presented itself. especially since neither would say we were citizens of their countries, so no birth certificates and passports were not valid. just all sorts of ####### kept happening. then it kept taking years to get another court date. then our lawyer got fired, so WE had to reschedule and wait more years. it was just a huge mess. but we were always under valid status, paid taxes, all that stuff.

Edited May 2, 2007 by mrsserendipity

[mrsserendipity 0]

flames9

oh, also, on the denial letter she even wrote: case denied september 19, 2004, she left october 8, 2004

so i have NO idea what the deal was. plus, i filed a 212 just in case, even though we left voluntarily and were never deported, which got approved with no problems. but she dismissed it too, saying "it's just an approval, so what, doesn't mean anything"

i asked when i was there illegally and she just sighed and lowered her glasses and said sharply "i don't have time to argue with you"

[Flames9_RN 358]

no excuse to be rude, just do not understand some people. I try to defend them (consulate workers) sometimes, why, I'm not sure,lol I do know many State dept employees, (some are civil servants, which means they stay inthe USA, some are foreign service, the ones that travel throughout the world , like MTL,I'm sure there are other differences, my wife has aunts that wer civel and foreign) work long hours without overtime. I know 1 gal that does REFUGEE(what u were trying for before) that works 12 hour days Mon to friday,and quite often comes in on weekends with no overtime pay! Yes one could complain, but doesnt seem to work! Was the same for other brances of State Dept when my wife worked there as well(she has moved on to bigger and better). One complains, that equals a poor performance review, which equals no chance of a raise, etc! Lets just say that morale was not very high, so thats why I tend to stick up for them, but still no excuse for rudeness. Best of luck

[Flames9_RN 358]

Does bring up a good point---when one does the interview, one should take notes of the persons name that is causing u the grief!! If they do not have a name tag, note thier appearance!! One may not want to do anythign right away, in fear it may have percussions, but sending a letter to ur congressman, and head of the consulate after u have the visa in hand, can't hurt. if they got piles of crappy letters about 1 individual, somethign may happen!!

[mrsserendipity 0]

Does bring up a good point---when one does the interview, one should take notes of the persons name that is causing u the grief!! If they do not have a name tag, note thier appearance!! One may not want to do anythign right away, in fear it may have percussions, but sending a letter to ur congressman, and head of the consulate after u have the visa in hand, can't hurt. if they got piles of crappy letters about 1 individual, somethign may happen!!

i just can't believe people can be like this and abuse their power. what did she think we were going to do? just say screw it? of course not. i kept asking over and over when i was there unlawfully... so i could find MORE papers to show her i wasn't, but she kept not answering me, saying she doesn't have time to argue :/

egh, i'm heartbroken. she could see our hearts breaking in that little room, and she knew we were right, but she just felt like being a biznitch, or was too proud to admit she was wrong. i mean she had the dates ON the denial. did she not pass 3rd grade math? we brought that up to her after we saw it too while we were still in the little room. she simply kept saying "you are dismissed" "you are dismissed" "you are dismissed"

[zyggy 9]

1) Are you sure that they made a mistake... When exactly did your fiancee leave the US and under what circumstances did he leave. The details of his time in the US is very important and has a lot of bearing on the success of this case... How do you know that the attorney didn't screw things up and your fiancee had some time out of status... You stated that he was fired or removed.. there must have been a reason why...

Did his family leave the US due to a voluntary deportation order... A lot of questions that could turn this case on its head...

2) Do you have an attorney working for you.. If I were you, I would get a good one...

[mrsserendipity 0]

1) Are you sure that they made a mistake... When exactly did your fiancee leave the US and under what circumstances did he leave. The details of his time in the US is very important and has a lot of bearing on the success of this case... How do you know that the attorney didn't screw things up and your fiancee had some time out of status... You stated that he was fired or removed.. there must have been a reason why...

Did his family leave the US due to a voluntary deportation order... A lot of questions that could turn this case on its head...

2) Do you have an attorney working for you.. If I were you, I would get a good one...

it's me, the wife, that was in the US. and no i was never there illegally, there was never anything fishy. they always knew where we were. we were denied finally september 19, 2004, we left october 7/8, 2004, the people who then lived in our old house sent us the mandate to leave within 180 days of november 8, 2004. we were already gone. the consulate had all this in front of her, but would not look at it.

my husband and i knew each other way before all this happened for 4 years. it's insulting to have people assuming and questioning things. our lawyer now is one of the best in the country and has cost us thousands and thousands and thousands. plus we released all our filed from 1991 the gov't had in THEIR files (not that i provided them with) to the consulate AND the senator, and none found anything at all.

and he is not my fiance, he is my husband and together 4 years. we didn't get married when i was in the states still and waited 2 years after i was in canada to get married, when we were ready and sure and completely in love. my husband was with me and my family when we left and was with us at the border when we entered canada and filed papers for 9 hours.

[mrsserendipity 0]

...plus, even with the old lawyer gone in the us, WE still received the dated papers and kept track of when we had to send things and so on and so forth. the time they spend deciding it and we wait does not count as unlawful (do your own research, it's easy to find). she had all the dates RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER

edit: and no, not that were written by us. but dates from the supreme court that my lawyer now requested as a summary of our stay in the US

Edited May 3, 2007 by mrsserendipity

[Cassie 8]

my husband and i knew each other way before all this happened for 4 years. it's insulting to have people assuming and questioning things.

People are just trying to understand your situation and trying to find ways that might be able to help you.

[mrsserendipity 0]

my husband and i knew each other way before all this happened for 4 years. it's insulting to have people assuming and questioning things.

People are just trying to understand your situation and trying to find ways that might be able to help you.

i'm just not understanding.... why when i post things i get skeptics, and when he does, he gets nothing but pages of sympathy and love.

i didn't sense any of that from that post that i just replied to. i didn't sense anything but accusation and skepticism.

heck, just go to his american posts and read it, that seems to make a huge difference

[Cassie 8]

my husband and i knew each other way before all this happened for 4 years. it's insulting to have people assuming and questioning things.

People are just trying to understand your situation and trying to find ways that might be able to help you.

i'm just not understanding.... why when i post things i get skeptics, and when he does, he gets nothing but pages of sympathy and love.

i didn't sense any of that from that post that i just replied to. i didn't sense anything but accusation and skepticism.

heck, just go to his american posts and read it, that seems to make a huge difference

maybe it would help you to know that zyggy used to be a border agent and might be able to give you valuable insights if there were answers to his questions.

Right now you are really really upset, and justifiably so and it colours your perception. I went back and re-read your husband's thread about the interview, and I saw nothing but support for BOTH of you.