Green card holders delayed/waiting to ship for bootcamp due to the new DoD policy of Oct 2017

[Londonergirl 133]

Any updates yet?

[mrandmrsBRS 116]

Hey everyone, my husband has been in the navy for almost 8 years now. We’ve talked about me joining the navy as well (he is fts and I would try to get a fys job as well). I’m still waiting for my 10 year GC (filed early feb. 2017). Can I still go to meps and enlist or should i wait until I have my new GC in hand?

[Juniper 62]

On 11/19/2018 at 2:42 PM, csb426 said:

Here is the case if anyone is interested:

 

https://cases.justia.com/federal/district-courts/california/candce/3:2018cv03698/328244/68/0.pdf?ts=1542450948

 

On November 16, 2018, Judge Jon S. Tigar of the U.S. District Court Northern California granted a preliminary injunction titled, “ORDER GRANTING CLASS CERTIFICATION, DENYING MOTION TO DISMISS, AND GRANTING PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION“. The order’s conclusion reads, “For the foregoing reasons, the Court (1) GRANTS Plaintiffs’ motion for class certification; (2) DENIES DoD’s motion to dismiss; and (3) GRANTS Plaintiffs’ motion for preliminary injunction. The Court hereby ENJOINS Defendants and their officers, agents, servants, employees, and attorneys, and any other person or entity subject to their control or acting directly or indirectly in concert or participation with Defendants from taking any action continuing to implement the October 13 Memo and ORDERS Defendants to return to the pre-October 13, 2017 practices for the accession of Lawful Permanent Residents into the military. This Preliminary Injunction shall take effect immediately and shall remain in effect pending resolution of this action on the merits or further order of this Court.”

 

On 12/3/2018 at 7:01 PM, DC909 said:

Hi guys... A little update on the directive issued by the judge. Looks like the military will finally start complying. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/after-losing-court-battle-pentagon-will-send-green-card-holders-to-recruit-training/2018/12/03/3a858078-f742-11e8-863a-8972120646e0_story.html?fbclid=IwAR194FmzexSszjCce8N9J4KYKzxfjgWgyD0oaBiMYixlVNEwmYsg4QOkeYM&noredirect=on&utm_term=.4aee1e6d9a92

 

On 12/18/2018 at 10:52 PM, DC909 said:

Another update. The DOD has appealed the judge’s injunction. They have filed a motion to keep the policy in place until a decision is made. 

 

On 1/3/2019 at 8:22 PM, Char2424 said:

Anything new? So did they, or did they not,  start shipping LPR's to bootcamp? 

Any Green Card holders enlisting out there shipping to boot camp or not?

[Char2424 4]

10 minutes ago, Juniper said:

 

 

 

Any Green Card holders enlisting out there shipping to boot camp or not?

Hi.

Yes, I enlisted February 1st, and i am shipping out to bootcamp July 3rd (Army National Guard)

[Juniper 62]

2 hours ago, Char2424 said:

Hi.

Yes, I enlisted February 1st, and i am shipping out to bootcamp July 3rd (Army National Guard)

That's really helpful to know.

 

So what's the word on the second issue that was part of the 2018 changed rules that got reversed regarding when you can get your N-426 Certification of Honorable Military Service?

 

Background: Before rules change (and hopefully now) you can get this document one day on active duty after basic training. The 2018 rules change made it a 180 day active duty requirement to get the N-426, which is needed for N-400 naturalization documents. 

 

And also, was a more simplified background check have to be successfully completed before getting ship out to boot camp orders?

 

Thanks to all those immigrants who are serving !!!  Really want to hear what you know on these moving target subjects.

[Char2424 4]

7 hours ago, Juniper said:

That's really helpful to know.

 

So what's the word on the second issue that was part of the 2018 changed rules that got reversed regarding when you can get your N-426 Certification of Honorable Military Service?

 

Background: Before rules change (and hopefully now) you can get this document one day on active duty after basic training. The 2018 rules change made it a 180 day active duty requirement to get the N-426, which is needed for N-400 naturalization documents. 

 

And also, was a more simplified background check have to be successfully completed before getting ship out to boot camp orders?

 

Thanks to all those immigrants who are serving !!!  Really want to hear what you know on these moving target subjects.

I honeslty have not found a clear answer abkut naturalization. My recruiter thought Id be naturalized by the time I leave bootcamp, now I know that's not true anymore, even tho we are still in time of war. Then i read somewhere you need to be on active orders fir a 180 days (which, my training would be)... but i just hear different things. I will bring my documents. And just see. 

I am not sure what the background check actually entails,  i know they have contacted my employers. I also know that i had to have a shipping day 120 days (if I remember well) after I swore in where some citizens here can ship out way earlier. 

[Juniper 62]

7 hours ago, Char2424 said:

I honeslty have not found a clear answer abkut naturalization. My recruiter thought Id be naturalized by the time I leave bootcamp, now I know that's not true anymore, even tho we are still in time of war. Then i read somewhere you need to be on active orders fir a 180 days (which, my training would be)... but i just hear different things. I will bring my documents. And just see. 

I am not sure what the background check actually entails,  i know they have contacted my employers. I also know that i had to have a shipping day 120 days (if I remember well) after I swore in where some citizens here can ship out way earlier. 

I have been doing research myself for my son who comes to the USA in 2 weeks as 10 year GC immigrant and just talked with several different service recruiters in person: looks like boot camp plus completing tech training is when you can get N-426 needed for N-400 naturalization document submittal.

 

Please write back when you find out about your N-426. This is all a moving target so getting real information like yours is very helpful for our green card service members.

 

The background check should not be needed for your N-426. It is for other purposes. 

Edited April 22, 2019 by Juniper

[Abdeslam 47]

On 4/22/2019 at 3:22 PM, Juniper said:

I have been doing research myself for my son who comes to the USA in 2 weeks as 10 year GC immigrant and just talked with several different service recruiters in person: looks like boot camp plus completing tech training is when you can get N-426 needed for N-400 naturalization document submittal.

 

Please write back when you find out about your N-426. This is all a moving target so getting real information like yours is very helpful for our green card service members.

 

The background check should not be needed for your N-426. It is for other purposes. 

I am in the same situation , I will be shipped to basic training soon and I have no idea when I can get the N-426 certified so I can apply for citizenship , I am also afraid since I am on conditional gc that my GC will be expired before I get citizenship

[Juniper 62]

20 minutes ago, Abdeslam said:

I am in the same situation , I will be shipped to basic training soon and I have no idea when I can get the N-426 certified so I can apply for citizenship , I am also afraid since I am on conditional gc that my GC will be expired before I get citizenship

You file I-751 to remove conditions on your gc.  You can do that 3 months before and up to your gc expiration date.  You get a I-751 NOA1 document back that gives you an 18 month extension.  Let us know when you learn when you will get your N-426 military honorable service document that you will need for your N-400 naturalization document submittal. 

[Abdeslam 47]

1 hour ago, Juniper said:

You file I-751 to remove conditions on your gc.  You can do that 3 months before and up to your gc expiration date.  You get a I-751 NOA1 document back that gives you an 18 month extension.  Let us know when you learn when you will get your N-426 military honorable service document that you will need for your N-400 naturalization document submittal. 

alright I will keep posting here updates

[carlinhoswave 30]

On 4/26/2019 at 2:30 PM, Abdeslam said:

alright I will keep posting here updates

Guys, any updates on it? I enlisted on April 15, 2020 and I'm getting shipped out on June 3rd, 2020. My recruiter keeps telling me that I need to have my N-400 and N-426 on me when I get to the base. She also said I will be naturalized by the time I graduate Basic Combat Training. I'm so lost! Does anyone know something new about it? All I read is conflicting information and today I called USCIS and the agent confirmed me that I can apply right away when I get there. 

[pgk500 0]

Hi,

 

Does any one know when does the one year clock start to be be able to apply for citizenship  for people who are on green card? Is it when you are enlisted or after you have completed your boot camp?