Will I be able to move in with my SO after I studied here in Germany?

[Boiler 46,121]

Only US Citizens are guaranteed entry.

 

Same deal when visiting Germany, only Germans are guaranteed entry.

[kariambe 1]

5 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Only US Citizens are guaranteed entry.

 

Same deal when visiting Germany, only Germans are guaranteed entry.

btw will it be 2 years until I receive a visa to enter or until I receive a green card?

[Boiler 46,121]

Visa to enter, then after you get there you are sent the GC, a few weeks to arrive but you become a Permanent Resident on entry with an Immigrant Visa,

[Crazy Cat 42,317]

2 hours ago, kariambe said:

Since the border control, as far as I know, does not like immigrants

Not true.....Check out this chart

 

[ALittleBritish 91]

1 hour ago, kariambe said:

Sorry for being a total noob haha I am just really new to all this. So basically what I am going to do is marry him next year and file for the visa and while I am waiting for my visa to be accepted and ulimately also while I am studying, I can visit him with the VWP. Or also maybe make a semester abroad in the US, if that will be a possibility at my university. And after my visa got accepted, I will be able to live in the US or can the Border Control still deny my entry, even though I have got a visa. Also, where should we marry? I can not marry him during a VWP trip, or can I?

You can marry in the US on a trip over there - I did this, and it was fine, however, you'll have to make sure you leave before your VWP expires (and when visiting, never leave flights to the last couple of days - you never know what might come up and you don't want an overstay on your VWP). Also, every time you visit, bring evidence that you have strong ties to Germany to show that you don't have immigrant intent. Ultimately, unless you're a US citizen, it's always up to Border Control if you can enter or not. 

[JFH 12,191]

How did he obtain his green card? If it was through marriage to a USC then the wait will be even longer for you. 

[nightingalejules 678]

You will likely be able to visit, at any point in this procedure. Even to get married. Be completely honest (of course) with the officers when you try to enter, and be prepared to provide proof that your intention is not to stay in the US for any more than a visit. For example: "What's the purpose of your visit?" "I'm getting married to my fiance in Kalamazoo on [date], and then we're going to Hawaii for 2 weeks for our honeymoon, and then I'm going back to Germany for school while he files I-130 for me. I'll be in the US for 2 months." (And in your carry on, you'd have a lease for your apartment in Germany, and some documentation from the University that says when you're going back to school, and your return flight itinerary.)

 

If you show that you understand the rules and are following them, it's more likely (although not guaranteed) that they will let you into the US. You can never be 100% sure, but many of us have been successful in going back and forth during our wait to be issued a visa. 

 

You can also file concurrently for a student visa if you want to come to the US to study - again, you need to prove that you don't intend to actually immigrate until you get an immigrant visa.

[doggieandsam 765]

i just want to add, since no one has mentioned it yet.

 

if you do decide to visit on VWP while your CR1 (spouse) immigrant visa is being processed, do not every try to overstay. any overstay will not be forgiven for spouses of LPRs (unlike USCs) and if they see a record of overstay, then your CR1 visa may be denied.

 

Also be aware that any overstay on VWP will immediately revoke your ESTA privileges and if you want to visit again then you have to apply for a B1/B2 visa. And that may be difficult to get, if you have a pending immigrant visa AND an overstay on your record.

[Paul & Marina 53]

" Since the border control, as far as I know, does not like immigrants." If you follow the law/process and have been granted the right to enter the US it happens every day. Yes, Boarder Control can deny entry after you have been given a Visa but that is an exception. Sometimes things change after Visa was granted, drugs, crime things like that. I do not think you would have those issue and you would ever have to worry about. The semester abroad is a great idea, just don't over stay your visa. Not sure of your major (I taught  at an international university in the US for 14 years) it’s a great way to network and might help when it comes time to get a job.

 

Welcome to the US

[kariambe 1]

6 hours ago, Ben&Zian said:

Green card holders(permanent residents) can only file/petition for spouses. So unless you married there is no way for that to happen.

 

Unless you have some other form of work visa/J-1, ect.. a tourist visa or VWP(if eligible) isn't for living in the US, it's just for visiting.

 

59 minutes ago, doggieandsam said:

i just want to add, since no one has mentioned it yet.

 

if you do decide to visit on VWP while your CR1 (spouse) immigrant visa is being processed, do not every try to overstay. any overstay will not be forgiven for spouses of LPRs (unlike USCs) and if they see a record of overstay, then your CR1 visa may be denied.

 

Also be aware that any overstay on VWP will immediately revoke your ESTA privileges and if you want to visit again then you have to apply for a B1/B2 visa. And that may be difficult to get, if you have a pending immigrant visa AND an overstay on your record.

 

1 hour ago, nightingalejules said:

You will likely be able to visit, at any point in this procedure. Even to get married. Be completely honest (of course) with the officers when you try to enter, and be prepared to provide proof that your intention is not to stay in the US for any more than a visit. For example: "What's the purpose of your visit?" "I'm getting married to my fiance in Kalamazoo on [date], and then we're going to Hawaii for 2 weeks for our honeymoon, and then I'm going back to Germany for school while he files I-130 for me. I'll be in the US for 2 months." (And in your carry on, you'd have a lease for your apartment in Germany, and some documentation from the University that says when you're going back to school, and your return flight itinerary.)

 

If you show that you understand the rules and are following them, it's more likely (although not guaranteed) that they will let you into the US. You can never be 100% sure, but many of us have been successful in going back and forth during our wait to be issued a visa. 

 

You can also file concurrently for a student visa if you want to come to the US to study - again, you need to prove that you don't intend to actually immigrate until you get an immigrant visa.

 

2 hours ago, JFH said:

How did he obtain his green card? If it was through marriage to a USC then the wait will be even longer for you. 

 

4 minutes ago, Paul & Marina said:

" Since the border control, as far as I know, does not like immigrants." If you follow the law/process and have been granted the right to enter the US it happens every day. Yes, Boarder Control can deny entry after you have been given a Visa but that is an exception. Sometimes things change after Visa was granted, drugs, crime things like that. I do not think you would have those issue and you would ever have to worry about. The semester abroad is a great idea, just don't over stay your visa. Not sure of your major (I taught  at an international university in the US for 14 years) it’s a great way to network and might help when it comes time to get a job.

 

Welcome to the US

 

I would never overstay, I always plan my return tickets to be within the 90 days. Also, since I will start to study soon, there wont be time for long stays anyways, because we wont have as many free time as now.

 

Okay I will always come prepared to the US. Have there ever been cases, when the entry was denied, even though there was proof that the person has ties to Germany? And would it be possible to get married on a normal VWP trip?

 

He obtained his green card through his dad, who has been living in the US for a while.

 

It just really makes me anxious, that I could be denied entry at any point. Even though I should not really be afraid, since there are so many other people in the same situation and they manage to somehow move together. I am planning on studying either Communication ,Free Real Estate or Architecture, but I am not quiet sure yet. 

 

Thank you guys for all the replies. I really appreciate it!

 

 

 

 

 

[TNJ17 1,329]

It takes a couple of years for green card holders to petition for their families. Marry now and file for it. Finish your studies and move. You can visit while you wait as long as you can prove you have enough strong ties to your home country they won’t deny you entry. You should be fine cause Europeans don’t really have a problem. When you get your immigrant visa you pack up and move. Unless you have a bad criminal history or something else that makes you inadmissible for entry to the US you won’t get denied. Generally spousal and fiancé visas aren’t questioned much at the border unless they’re from a high fraud country. No one is guaranteed entry except for US citizens but you shouldn’t have to worry about it. 

[ALittleBritish 91]

2 hours ago, kariambe said:

 

 

 

 

 

I would never overstay, I always plan my return tickets to be within the 90 days. Also, since I will start to study soon, there wont be time for long stays anyways, because we wont have as many free time as now.

 

Okay I will always come prepared to the US. Have there ever been cases, when the entry was denied, even though there was proof that the person has ties to Germany? And would it be possible to get married on a normal VWP trip?

 

He obtained his green card through his dad, who has been living in the US for a while.

 

It just really makes me anxious, that I could be denied entry at any point. Even though I should not really be afraid, since there are so many other people in the same situation and they manage to somehow move together. I am planning on studying either Communication ,Free Real Estate or Architecture, but I am not quiet sure yet. 

 

Thank you guys for all the replies. I really appreciate it!

 

 

 

 

 

As I mentioned in my previous post: yes, you can get married on a normal VWP trip. I am from the UK, I use the VWP and I got married in the US on a VWP trip and then returned to Canada (where I am a PR). 

[Fippsie 164]

How long have you been together? Have you met before? How did he get his green card? 

 

I‘m asking, because 3-4 years is a long time. And the process is very expensive.. 

[kariambe 1]

6 hours ago, Fippsie said:

How long have you been together? Have you met before? How did he get his green card? 

 

I‘m asking, because 3-4 years is a long time. And the process is very expensive.. 

We met two years ago on a language learning app and yes we have met before twice. We are really sure that we want to commit to this relationship and do everything  to make it work. He got a green card by his dad, who has been living in the US for a while.

[little immigrant 801]

11 hours ago, doggieandsam said:

i just want to add, since no one has mentioned it yet.

 

if you do decide to visit on VWP while your CR1 (spouse) immigrant visa is being processed, do not every try to overstay. any overstay will not be forgiven for spouses of LPRs (unlike USCs) and if they see a record of overstay, then your CR1 visa may be denied.

 

Also be aware that any overstay on VWP will immediately revoke your ESTA privileges and if you want to visit again then you have to apply for a B1/B2 visa. And that may be difficult to get, if you have a pending immigrant visa AND an overstay on your record.

I might be mistaken but I believe in her case it would be an F2B visa.