NATIONAL SCHOOL WALKOUT LIVE: Students begin rally in solidarity to end gun violence

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11 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

we can't get decent trade skills offered at the highschool level and you think gun training is imperative? no. just not relevant at all.

You are the one who raised it, I am sure if Schools partnered with local groups the cost would be nominal.

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5 minutes ago, Boiler said:

You are the one who raised it, I am sure if Schools partnered with local groups the cost would be nominal.

i wasn't talking about training for students. i was talking about training for adult gun owners. what local groups? there is a dude that runs a survival defense training camp sort of thing but i don't think he's in it for charity purposes.

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3 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

i wasn't talking about training for students. i was talking about training for adult gun owners. what local groups? there is a dude that runs a survival defense training camp sort of thing but i don't think he's in it for charity purposes.

Always start early, 4H and Appleseed for example.

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Just now, Boiler said:

Always start early, 4H and Appleseed for example.

4H is already heavily involved in this area, my specific county especially cause we've got all the farms/livestock. didn't know they did much in the way of gun training though.

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4 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

4H is already heavily involved in this area, my specific county especially cause we've got all the farms/livestock. didn't know they did much in the way of gun training though.

I know they do it around here, and there were quite a few in my Hunting Class. none on my concealed carry as there is a minimum age.

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Just now, Boiler said:

I know they do it around here, and there were quite a few in my Hunting Class. none on my concealed carry as there is a minimum age.

virginia department of game and inland fisheries does the hunting classes here, they're mandatory for a license to hunt.

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There are programmes out there, just need to be expanded.

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5 minutes ago, Boiler said:

There are programmes out there, just need to be expanded.

but why? school shootings don't happen because kids aren't properly skilled marksmen.

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1 minute ago, smilesammich said:

but why? school shootings don't happen because kids aren't properly skilled marksmen.

Appleseed admittedly has a major element regarding marksmanship but also has other significant elements to it, neither Hunting or Concealed Carry cover marksmanship.

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1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Appleseed admittedly has a major element regarding marksmanship but also has other significant elements to it, neither Hunting or Concealed Carry cover marksmanship.

school shootings don't happen because kids have never handled guns in a controlled setting/learning environment. better?

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5 hours ago, spookyturtle said:

Imagine how many more accidents kids would have with no driver training? I’m guessing texting and driving is still causing a lot of accidents in this age group. If you’ve ever driven or ridden in a big truck you’d be amazed what you see people doing in their cars while driving. 

11 per day seems to be the average for 2017 on the texting teens thing.  Over 4K a year.  

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2 hours ago, smilesammich said:

so confused right now. how are you both?

 

also, you gun control suggestions are pretty weak, no wonder you think they're pointless.

Feel free to throw out your strong gun control suggestions.

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1 hour ago, smilesammich said:

 

not all people are meant to be in the military, people shouldn't be forced to handle guns. i thought you liked freedom?

It works well in Korea.  No gun crime there, mandatory military service, seems like a good start to me.  The US could stand to learn from countries which are successful.

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1 hour ago, smilesammich said:

all the gun threads we've had here, i don't think i've seen anyone ever suggest banning guns. yet it's constantly brought up. 

yeah, proper training is a no-brainer.

Because banning AR-15's is .. oh its not a gun its an a weapon 

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1 hour ago, Boiler said:

Lots of things I had to do at school which I was not keen on, RE being the classic.

 

Anyway should not be that big a deal incorporating proper gun handling into the curriculum.

It used to be (though it was not widespread), not sure why it was dropped.  Would have signed up in a hurry to have the government subsidize slinging lead downrange.