NATIONAL SCHOOL WALKOUT LIVE: Students begin rally in solidarity to end gun violence

[Dashinka 24,492]

19 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

 oh those gender bending teens, they're crazy, gender madness! i'm identifying as a door knob today, har har. sounds propaganda-ish. what difference does an individual's gender identity matter to you?

It doesn’t.  On the one hand teenagers are not mature enough to own, buy or use guns, but on the other hand they can make life decisions.  How does that logic work?

[Boiler 45,482]

Depends if they are following the party line or not.

[Steeleballz 7,550]

 

   

32 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

It doesn’t.  On the one hand teenagers are not mature enough to own, buy or use guns, but on the other hand they can make life decisions.  How does that logic work?

 

  Do you have kids? The answer should be obvious if you do.

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

7 hours ago, smilesammich said:

i wasn't talking about training for students. i was talking about training for adult gun owners. what local groups? there is a dude that runs a survival defense training camp sort of thing but i don't think he's in it for charity purposes.

the issues i have with this statement are

1.  constitutionality of requiring training for a right.  reminds me of a poll tax......

2.  who will come up with this class and grade it?  the opportunity for mischief will be great if the course developers/graders are biased.

3. frequency of the test.  how often?  for how long is it good for?

 

i'm sure more can add to the above list, that's just what i thought of right off the bat.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

34 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

the issues i have with this statement are

1.  constitutionality of requiring training for a right.  reminds me of a poll tax......

2.  who will come up with this class and grade it?  the opportunity for mischief will be great if the course developers/graders are biased.

3. frequency of the test.  how often?  for how long is it good for?

 

i'm sure more can add to the above list, that's just what i thought of right off the bat.

So if mandatory training for adults to own a weapon is off, is mandatory military service and ROTC for young people off as well?  Asking for a friend. 

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There is precedence, call it Affordable Gun Training

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

[Steeleballz 7,550]

1 hour ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

So if mandatory training for adults to own a weapon is off, is mandatory military service and ROTC for young people off as well?  Asking for a friend. 

 

   It's a slippery slope. Require training today, and tomorrow the gub'mint is prying your gun from your cold dead hands. By next week the British are camping out in your back yard eating Toad in the Hole and we're all singing God save the Queen. Is that what you want for America? 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

4 Laws That Could Stem the Rising Threat of Mass Shootings

Pro-gun advocates claim new laws will not make us safer. But here is evidence the right laws will do exactly that

 

—Require permits to purchase
 

—Ban individuals convicted of any violent crime from gun purchase
 

—Make all serious domestic violence offenders surrender firearms

 

—Temporarily ban active alcohol abusers from firearms
 

    read full article

[Ban Hammer 13,334]

1 hour ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

So if mandatory training for adults to own a weapon is off, is mandatory military service and ROTC for young people off as well?  Asking for a friend. 

so mandated training for a right.  maybe require literacy tests to vote too?

[Steeleballz 7,550]

27 minutes ago, Ban Hammer said:

so mandated training for a right.  maybe require literacy tests to vote too?

 

   Are those rights not already conditional? If I was convicted of a crime, would I be able to take my gun to prison with me, and can I leave it in my cell when I get my day pass on Super Tuesday to vote? Assuming I am over 18 of course? 

 

   With rights come responsibilities. 

[OriZ 3,157]

9 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Ohio Student Suspended for Refusing to Leave Classroom During Gun Control Walkout

 

https://ijr.com/2018/03/1076385-ohio-student-suspended-refusing-to-leave-classroom/

lol, suspend away. our kid would be sitting in class reading a book.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 hour ago, Steeleballz said:

4 Laws That Could Stem the Rising Threat of Mass Shootings

Pro-gun advocates claim new laws will not make us safer. But here is evidence the right laws will do exactly that

 

—Require permits to purchase
 

—Ban individuals convicted of any violent crime from gun purchase
 

—Make all serious domestic violence offenders surrender firearms

 

—Temporarily ban active alcohol abusers from firearms
 

    read full article

Thanks for the NB friendly font

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

4 Laws That Could Stem the Rising Threat of Mass Shootings

Pro-gun advocates claim new laws will not make us safer. But here is evidence the right laws will do exactly that

 

—Require permits to purchase
 

—Ban individuals convicted of any violent crime from gun purchase
 

—Make all serious domestic violence offenders surrender firearms

 

—Temporarily ban active alcohol abusers from firearms
 

    read full article

What requirements for a permit?

 

Pretty sure this is already done via the FBI BG check?

 

No issue with this one, but hard to do.  How does the law even know if they have a gun?

 

Define alcohol abuse?  DUIs only?

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 hour ago, IDWAF said:

What requirements for a permit?

 

Pretty sure this is already done via the FBI BG check?

 

No issue with this one, but hard to do.  How does the law even know if they have a gun?

 

Define alcohol abuse?  DUIs only?

Doesn't matter, once all of our children are in ROTC classes, gun safety will be second nature.