FIRST ATTEMPT, DENIED!

[TNJ17 1,329]

Yeah you’re too risky. Coming from a high fraud country and with reason to immigrate because of your bf. Not gonna happen any time soon or ever. Plan a visit somewhere. Shall you decide to get married and live in the US you can apply again but for immigrant visa. 

[Yhana 7]

it makes no difference... a great possibility of denial. Im a filipina too worked in Sg before, my first attempt of applying tourist visa was in Philippines and was denied.

. Then after 2 years since I worked in Sg,  I applied again in US embassy-Singapore ,as tourist again got denied. I was denied for 4 times until my bf who is now my hubby, visited me for 5 times then applied for k1 visa and got approved without any interrogation or questions on my previous application. i guess the 5x visit of my hubby helped a lot.

Edited March 11, 2018 by Yhana

[az2014 381]

1 hour ago, Yhana said:

it makes no difference... a great possibility of denial. Im a filipina too worked in Sg before, my first attempt of applying tourist visa was in Philippines and was denied.

. Then after 2 years since I worked in Sg,  I applied again in US embassy-Singapore ,as tourist again got denied. I was denied for 4 times until my bf who is now my hubby, visited me for 5 times then applied for k1 visa and got approved without any interrogation or questions on my previous application. i guess the 5x visit of my hubby helped a lot.

Your husband visiting you 5 times did nothing for your K1. A K1 is completely different to a B2.

[Coco8 1,042]

You can meet somewhere else, like in Mexico if you want to get closer to the US. 

 

If you reapply after 1 month you will get denied again because nothing on your application will change considerably. You have to wait at least one year to apply again. 

[Sunnyland 639]

Applying just 1 month after the first denial will make you look desperate. But if you dont mind spending another $160 then do it and you will have 2 denials within 1 year. Give it a little more time and make him go to visit you. Maybe you guys can start a K1 visa later on if you both feel that is the route for you guys.

[ako_c_bayee 0]

2 hours ago, Coco8 said:

You can meet somewhere else, like in Mexico if you want to get closer to the US. 

 

If you reapply after 1 month you will get denied again because nothing on your application will change considerably. You have to wait at least one year to apply again. 

Yea.. meeting somewhere else is the next best thing.

 

[ako_c_bayee 0]

5 hours ago, az2014 said:

Your husband visiting you 5 times did nothing for your K1. A K1 is completely different to a B2.

Then what could have made the consul approve their k1?

[Coco8 1,042]

7 minutes ago, ako_c_bayee said:

Then what could have made the consul approve their k1?

This person was saying that more visits will not help in the approval of a visitor visa.

 

They got the k1 approved because it is a fiance visa which is to get married in the US, not to visit. 

[JE57 239]

Hello OP,

   Let me take a few moments to explain what's happening here so that you better understand the reasons and don't think this is an Arbitrary decision.  The consulate officer is required by US Law to assume that when you apply for a tourist ( B2 ) visa that you actually intend to remain in the USA rather than leave as planned.  It is the responsibility of the applicant to prove that you have compelling reasons to LEAVE the USA.   Thus if you come from a country such as the Philippines you have a couple of factors working against you...  a) Many others from your country have come to the USA on tourist visas or other non-immigrant visas and not actually left the USA.  b) Typically the living standard in the Philippines is not (viewed the the eyes of someone in the USA) as high as in the USA giving incentive to stay.      In your situation specifically you have left your home country to work overseas in SG presumably to make more money than you could in the Philippines.  The perception on the part of the CO is that you could therefore make even MORE money in the USA  thus you have no reason to return to SQ and you've proven your willingness to leave the Phlipppines so it's hard to argue strong ties to the Philippines.  

-

Now, does this mean you can never get a visa to the USA?   No, definitely not.  In fact, the K-1 Visa is a visa that shows you INTEND to remain in the USA so for that visa you have to prove not that you have strong ties to your home country.  Your previous denials for a tourist visa have no negative effect (As long as you were completely honest on those applications).  So a BF visiting 5 times does make for a stronger K-1 case but honestly from the Philippines once is all you should need.   HOWEVER, a K-1 visa takes a lot longer to process ( 6 - 12 months) and cost a significant amount of money and requires you both to be free and willing to marry each other.  It is NOT appropriate for a 3 week visit.   

-

So in short, the only way you'll get a tourist visa to the USA is if your circumstances change such that you have a strong and compelling reason not to stay in the USA.  For example, if your were promoted to a position in Singapore where you were making more than 30,000 USD per year and that job could only be done in Singapore.   Or if your BF moved to the Philippines, took a job and residency and the two of you got married then maybe he would become your 'strong tie' to the Philippines (Even then you might well be denied).  

-

So, while there is a very small chance that you could get a tourist visa on a subseqent application the chances are tiny and in my opinion you'd be better off spending the money on something else.  

-

Bear in mind that if you do decide to take a vacation to someplace closer to him, say Mexico for instance that you must make sure that you don't have to change flights in the USA.  Unlike here in Asia where you can change planes and remain on the 'Air-side' of security and never enter the country where the airport is located it doesn't work that way in the USA.  So for example if you decided to fly from Singapore to Jamaica and had to change planes in Miami you'd be denied in Miami as you'd have to legally enter the USA to board your Jamaica bound flight.   So if you do that make sure you double and triple check that there is no possiblity that your plane will land in the USA (even for re-fuelling) 

-

   Best of luck.   Have fun planning all the wonderful places you and your BF could spend a great vacation.   Sorry you won't have a chance to stay with him and meet his family. 

 

[Maria1989 403]

10 hours ago, az2014 said:

Your husband visiting you 5 times did nothing for your K1. A K1 is completely different to a B2.

Of course her now husband visiting 5 times did everything for her K1. She said her B2s were denied and K1 Approved. Her then fiancé visiting 5 times shows the likelihood of a more “bonafide relationship” and at minimum at least one visit is required. 

 

It seems she was saying to the OP that reapplying for a B2 is useless.

 

So so do you mean to tell me if he now Fiance has never visited her K1 would still have been approved? No, because at that point it wouldn’t even meet the basic requirements.  

[ako_c_bayee 0]

8 hours ago, JE57 said:

Hello OP,

   Let me take a few moments to explain what's happening here so that you better understand the reasons and don't think this is an Arbitrary decision.  The consulate officer is required by US Law to assume that when you apply for a tourist ( B2 ) visa that you actually intend to remain in the USA rather than leave as planned.  It is the responsibility of the applicant to prove that you have compelling reasons to LEAVE the USA.   Thus if you come from a country such as the Philippines you have a couple of factors working against you...  a) Many others from your country have come to the USA on tourist visas or other non-immigrant visas and not actually left the USA.  b) Typically the living standard in the Philippines is not (viewed the the eyes of someone in the USA) as high as in the USA giving incentive to stay.      In your situation specifically you have left your home country to work overseas in SG presumably to make more money than you could in the Philippines.  The perception on the part of the CO is that you could therefore make even MORE money in the USA  thus you have no reason to return to SQ and you've proven your willingness to leave the Phlipppines so it's hard to argue strong ties to the Philippines.  

-

Now, does this mean you can never get a visa to the USA?   No, definitely not.  In fact, the K-1 Visa is a visa that shows you INTEND to remain in the USA so for that visa you have to prove not that you have strong ties to your home country.  Your previous denials for a tourist visa have no negative effect (As long as you were completely honest on those applications).  So a BF visiting 5 times does make for a stronger K-1 case but honestly from the Philippines once is all you should need.   HOWEVER, a K-1 visa takes a lot longer to process ( 6 - 12 months) and cost a significant amount of money and requires you both to be free and willing to marry each other.  It is NOT appropriate for a 3 week visit.   

-

So in short, the only way you'll get a tourist visa to the USA is if your circumstances change such that you have a strong and compelling reason not to stay in the USA.  For example, if your were promoted to a position in Singapore where you were making more than 30,000 USD per year and that job could only be done in Singapore.   Or if your BF moved to the Philippines, took a job and residency and the two of you got married then maybe he would become your 'strong tie' to the Philippines (Even then you might well be denied).  

-

So, while there is a very small chance that you could get a tourist visa on a subseqent application the chances are tiny and in my opinion you'd be better off spending the money on something else.  

-

Bear in mind that if you do decide to take a vacation to someplace closer to him, say Mexico for instance that you must make sure that you don't have to change flights in the USA.  Unlike here in Asia where you can change planes and remain on the 'Air-side' of security and never enter the country where the airport is located it doesn't work that way in the USA.  So for example if you decided to fly from Singapore to Jamaica and had to change planes in Miami you'd be denied in Miami as you'd have to legally enter the USA to board your Jamaica bound flight.   So if you do that make sure you double and triple check that there is no possiblity that your plane will land in the USA (even for re-fuelling) 

-

   Best of luck.   Have fun planning all the wonderful places you and your BF could spend a great vacation.   Sorry you won't have a chance to stay with him and meet his family. 

 

Wow thank u for the explanation and giving time for this. Appreciate it!

Edited March 12, 2018 by ako_c_bayee

[Yhana 7]

On 3/11/2018 at 3:34 PM, az2014 said:

Your husband visiting you 5 times did nothing for your K1. A K1 is completely different to a B2.

of course it has nothing to do with my B2 visa.... what i am trying to say here is.... I was easily got approved on my k1 visa coz my husband visited me for 5 times.. enough proof that our relationship is genuine.. coz during my b2 visa the consul told me  these words " I know u can afford to  have a tour but the problem is u r still  single, I doubt you gonna come back here (Philippines)." 4 denials and all of a sudden I applied a K1 visa, do u think the consul wont assume me of being desperate to come here (USA) and just tried to use somebody through k1 visa? hmmmp... but since my bf ( my husband now) visited me 5x,  its an enough proof that our relationship is genuine. :₩

Edited March 14, 2018 by Yhana

[Yhana 7]

On 3/12/2018 at 2:06 AM, JE57 said:

Hello OP,

   Let me take a few moments to explain what's happening here so that you better understand the reasons and don't think this is an Arbitrary decision.  The consulate officer is required by US Law to assume that when you apply for a tourist ( B2 ) visa that you actually intend to remain in the USA rather than leave as planned.  It is the responsibility of the applicant to prove that you have compelling reasons to LEAVE the USA.   Thus if you come from a country such as the Philippines you have a couple of factors working against you...  a) Many others from your country have come to the USA on tourist visas or other non-immigrant visas and not actually left the USA.  b) Typically the living standard in the Philippines is not (viewed the the eyes of someone in the USA) as high as in the USA giving incentive to stay.      In your situation specifically you have left your home country to work overseas in SG presumably to make more money than you could in the Philippines.  The perception on the part of the CO is that you could therefore make even MORE money in the USA  thus you have no reason to return to SQ and you've proven your willingness to leave the Phlipppines so it's hard to argue strong ties to the Philippines.  

-

Now, does this mean you can never get a visa to the USA?   No, definitely not.  In fact, the K-1 Visa is a visa that shows you INTEND to remain in the USA so for that visa you have to prove not that you have strong ties to your home country.  Your previous denials for a tourist visa have no negative effect (As long as you were completely honest on those applications).  So a BF visiting 5 times does make for a stronger K-1 case but honestly from the Philippines once is all you should need.   HOWEVER, a K-1 visa takes a lot longer to process ( 6 - 12 months) and cost a significant amount of money and requires you both to be free and willing to marry each other.  It is NOT appropriate for a 3 week visit.   

-

So in short, the only way you'll get a tourist visa to the USA is if your circumstances change such that you have a strong and compelling reason not to stay in the USA.  For example, if your were promoted to a position in Singapore where you were making more than 30,000 USD per year and that job could only be done in Singapore.   Or if your BF moved to the Philippines, took a job and residency and the two of you got married then maybe he would become your 'strong tie' to the Philippines (Even then you might well be denied).  

-

So, while there is a very small chance that you could get a tourist visa on a subseqent application the chances are tiny and in my opinion you'd be better off spending the money on something else.  

-

Bear in mind that if you do decide to take a vacation to someplace closer to him, say Mexico for instance that you must make sure that you don't have to change flights in the USA.  Unlike here in Asia where you can change planes and remain on the 'Air-side' of security and never enter the country where the airport is located it doesn't work that way in the USA.  So for example if you decided to fly from Singapore to Jamaica and had to change planes in Miami you'd be denied in Miami as you'd have to legally enter the USA to board your Jamaica bound flight.   So if you do that make sure you double and triple check that there is no possiblity that your plane will land in the USA (even for re-fuelling) 

-

   Best of luck.   Have fun planning all the wonderful places you and your BF could spend a great vacation.   Sorry you won't have a chance to stay with him and meet his family. 

 

yes u r very right:) thats what i am trying to explain that the 5x visit might helped my case proving that the relationship is real. Im not saying that it required to have that various visit but on my case I got denied for 4 times its too risky for me if all of a sudden I applied for  K1 visa if my bf visited me once only. they might scrutinized me during the interview.

 

Edited March 15, 2018 by Yhana

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

18 minutes ago, Yhana said:

of course it has nothing to do with my B2 visa.... what i am trying to say here is.... I was easily got approved on my k1 visa coz my husband visited me for 5 times.. enough proof that our relationship is genuine.. coz during my b2 visa the consul told me  these words " I know u can afford to  have a tour but the problem is u r still  single, I doubt you gonna come back here (Philippines)." 4 denials and all of a sudden I applied a K1 visa, do u think the consul wont assume me of being desperate to come here (USA) and just tried to use somebody through k1 visa? hmmmp... but since my bf ( my husband now) visited me 5x,  its an enough proof that our relationship is genuine. :₩

Nice story but that doesn't have anything to do with what the poster of this thread is talking about, which is trying to get a B2 visa after being denied already.

Edited March 15, 2018 by SusieQQQ

[Yhana 7]

1 hour ago, SusieQQQ said:

Nice story but that doesn't have anything to do with what the poster of this thread is talking about, which is trying to get a B2 visa after being denied already.

yes ma'am you are right, but I just wanna share my experience, since  the poster of this thread is a filipina too,  we're from a country, wherein immigration requires a lot of proof of the  relationship or close ties to our country.