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My LPR spouse needs to file taxes for 2017 but we are unsure of whether she should file "single" or "married filing separatly". Her accountant and our lawyer both say to do it "single" as thats what their prior clients in our situation have done,  but online the advice is to file MFS.

 

We are applying via I-130 for spouse of LPR. Any advice?

 

 

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You are married. You are supposed to file as married. 

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29 minutes ago, Our Journey said:

If your are married, He have to file taxes married.

 

 

24 minutes ago, NuestraUnion said:

You are married. You are supposed to file as married. 

You guys have any idea if tax obligations will go up or down (as in pay more or less tax), moving from single to MFS? Generally speaking of course, i know there are a lot of exemptions/deductions to take into account.

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2 minutes ago, Jimmy The Tulip said:

 

You guys have any idea if tax obligations will go up or down (as in pay more or less tax), moving from single to MFS? Generally speaking of course, i know there are a lot of exemptions/deductions to take into account.

Depends on income. If you file married file jointly your income will be combined. But you may qualify for better tax breaks. If you file married filing separately then it will be based on each of your incomes.

 

But you do realize that the IRS can audit you at anytime in your life? So if you file single this year. Say, five years from now the IRS finds out you were supposed to file as married. If you were suppose to pay more because you were married instead of single, not only will you have to pay the difference, but you will also have penalties and interest that accumulated over the those years.

 

One thing about the IRS is they may be slow, but they have along memory.

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4 minutes ago, NuestraUnion said:

Depends on income. If you file married file jointly your income will be combined. But you may qualify for better tax breaks. If you file married filing separately then it will be based on each of your incomes.

 

But you do realize that the IRS can audit you at anytime in your life? So if you file single this year. Say, five years from now the IRS finds out you were supposed to file as married. If you were suppose to pay more because you were married instead of single, not only will you have to pay the difference, but you will also have penalties and interest that accumulated over the those years.

 

One thing about the IRS is they may be slow, but they have along memory.

LPR is not or has ever filed MFJ, so forget about that. For her married years, she erroneously filed Single. So the question is Single vs MFS and what carries a bigger tax obligation, generally speaking.

 

We will be amending our returns to change to MFS to avoid future audits, but since shes already paid her tax obligation for 2016 and 2017, I am wondering if the change from Single to MFS will require additional money to be paid in the form of taxes.

Edited by Jimmy The Tulip
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The tax liability may go up or down by a slight margin from single to MFS.

 

Even if it goes up by a little for now by changing to MFS, she can amend the latest 3 married years tax return again from MFS to MFJ once you join her in the US and get whole lot of refund back, provided you don’t have worldwide income.

 

So go for MFS without hesitating if she doesn’t wanna do MFJ by applying for ITIN for you.

Spouse:

2015-06-16: I-130 Sent

2015-08-17: I-130 approved

2015-09-23: NVC received file

2015-10-05: NVC assigned Case number, Invoice ID & Beneficiary ID

2016-06-30: DS-261 completed, AOS Fee Paid, WL received

2016-07-05: Received IV invoice, IV Fee Paid

2016-07-06: DS-260 Submitted

2016-07-07: AOS and IV Package mailed

2016-07-08: NVC Scan

2016-08-08: Case Complete

2017-06-30: Interview, approved

2017-07-04: Visa in hand

2017-08-01: Entry to US

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Myself:

2016-05-10: N-400 Sent

2016-05-16: N-400 NOA1

2016-05-26: Biometrics

2017-01-30: Interview

2017-03-02: Oath Ceremony

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10 minutes ago, Damara said:

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040tt.pdf

 

Youd have to check the tax tables. MFS is often the same tax liability as Single.

Thank you, this is what I was looking for.

 

 

4 minutes ago, arken said:

Even if it goes up by a little for now by changing to MFS, she can amend the latest 3 married years tax return again from MFS to MFJ once you join her in the US and get whole lot of refund back, provided you don’t have worldwide income.

Really? Unfortunately I do have worldwide income for the years she will be filing MFS though I am working in a different country while waiting our Visa approval.

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There are several options when a person is married...but "Single" is not one of them if you were married as of Dec 31st of a tax year.

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40 minutes ago, Jimmy The Tulip said:

LPR is not or has ever filed MFJ, so forget about that. For her married years, she erroneously filed Single. So the question is Single vs MFS and what carries a bigger tax obligation, generally speaking.

 

We will be amending our returns to change to MFS to avoid future audits, but since shes already paid her tax obligation for 2016 and 2017, I am wondering if the change from Single to MFS will require additional money to be paid in the form of taxes.

It depends on several factors, but the friendly IRS will certainly let you know if your amended tax liability is greater than before you amended.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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1 hour ago, Damara said:

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040tt.pdf

 

Youd have to check the tax tables. MFS is often the same tax liability as Single.

Only at the lower brackets.

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Biometrics: 8/26/08

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Her accountant and lawyer told a married individual to file as "single"? Wow...no, single is never a valid option for anybody married. The options are MFS, MFH, or sometimes HOH (with dependent(s)).

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ROC:

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AOS:

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10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

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I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

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8/15/2017: POE

 

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3 hours ago, mcdull said:

I cannot believe people are really asking this question. 

I know right? "Uhm, I'm married, but can I pretend I'm not when filing my taxes?", what the heck...?

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