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Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Nepal
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10 hours ago, santiagosilva said:

I would hire a lawyer to read this, because "petitioner" in this paragraph, literally contradicts the word in the forms.

 

Also, as far as I read it, you should still be able to file your own, w a waver. Get a lawyer ASAP!!! You may only have a few days to file before the window closes. (If i'm reading it right . )

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, one of the lawyer told to file all over again, and the other one told to send a waiver. I am really confused because I think there are very few cases like this and these lawyer have no idea what to do. In the letter, it also says once its withdrawn it cannot be retracted, and it says it cannot be considered joint petition. I dont know what am i suppose to do. My court day for divorce is next week, and I am planning to go local uscis on the same day. See what they say. They do not accept infopass, i hope I will be able to speak with someone and get answer. Right now, I have prepared new I-751 with all the evidences. But I am not sure if I should file entire new package with new fees, new evidence or just the waiver with decree. Lawyers giving mixed answer.

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46 minutes ago, longuscisprocess said:

Yes, one of the lawyer told to file all over again, and the other one told to send a waiver. I am really confused because I think there are very few cases like this and these lawyer have no idea what to do. In the letter, it also says once its withdrawn it cannot be retracted, and it says it cannot be considered joint petition. I dont know what am i suppose to do. My court day for divorce is next week, and I am planning to go local uscis on the same day. See what they say. They do not accept infopass, i hope I will be able to speak with someone and get answer. Right now, I have prepared new I-751 with all the evidences. But I am not sure if I should file entire new package with new fees, new evidence or just the waiver with decree. Lawyers giving mixed answer.

I hope you can find a lawyer who knows what he is doing. This case has a really shady feel to it. I’m still very confused on the letter’s justification of withdrawing the petition.

Edited by MorganandMichael

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Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Nepal
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Posted
2 minutes ago, MorganandMichael said:

And you’ve verified that this letter is a legitimate corespondent from USCIS, correct? I know the format looks nothing like anything I’ve ever seen received from them. And again, it really doesn’t make sense that you are being told the petitioner pulled the plug on the process since that’s you.

Yes, It it from USCIS. I covered the barcode when I posted here. I called USCIS the other day and he tells me you should get a lawyer. I have called them today and right now waiting for tier 2 officer to call me back which will be after 226 minute 🙄. I will update what he says. I am also planning to go visit local uscis office next week with my final decree in hand, and ask them what can I do. Meanwhile, I am preparing for whole new I751 too, because idk which path I should take. 

Posted (edited)

Have a new I-751 package with evidence prepared, with the waiver box ticked ready to go.

The second you have your final decree in hand, get it photocopied, stick it in the package, and fedex it next day to USCIS.

 

You remain a LPR, you are permitted to file late with a waiver without explanation, so don't worry too much. I can say this having been through something not entirely a million miles away from this...

 

 

Now, what you DO need to do, after filing this new I-751, is get to the bottom of this BS, as they have not followed their own standard procedure. 

Edited by mindthegap

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Nepal
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Posted
8 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

Have a new I-751 package with evidence prepared, with the waiver box ticked ready to go.

The second you have your final decree in hand, get it photocopied, stick it in the package, and fedex it next day to USCIS.

 

You remain a LPR, you are permitted to file late with a waiver without explanation, so don't worry too much. I can say this having been through something not entirely a million miles away from this...

 

 

Now, what you DO need to do, after filing this new I-751, is get to the bottom of this BS, as they have not followed their own standard procedure. 

I just spoke with another lawyer. She tells me to file waiver with divorce until I read her withdrawal letter last sentence. It says i-751 never been filed. Than she says to file complete new application.

Posted
3 hours ago, longuscisprocess said:

I just spoke with another lawyer. She tells me to file waiver with divorce until I read her withdrawal letter last sentence. It says i-751 never been filed. Than she says to file complete new application.

Which is exactly what I said..... prepare it, get it ready, and get it sent as soon as the final divorce is in hand.

 

There is a misconception that the waiver is something that is filed or extra - it isn't, it is just the box on the form (or if already filed, a simple letter noting the switch).

CR1 / DCF (London): 2012 / 2013 (4 months from I-130 petition to visa in hand)

I-751 #1- April 2015 [Denied]

 

April 2015 : I-751 Joint filing package sent fedex next day 09:00am from UK ($lots - thanks). 
Jan 2017: Notification that an interview has been scheduled at a local office. Bizarrely still no RFE... 
Jan 2017: 2hr wait, then interview terminated before it began, due to moving my ID to another state 2 wks prior. New interview 'in a few months...maybe.'   Informed them that divorce proceedings are underway, but not finalised at this time. 
March 2017: An Interview was scheduled - marked as no-show as they didn't actually send out a notification of interview. FML 
April  2017: Filed an official complaint with the ombudsman, and have requested Senator & Congressman assistance
August 2017: Interview - switched to a (finalised) divorce waiver. Told that decision will be made that afternoon, but no problems foreseen with my case. 
October 2017: Letter of Denial received - reason given as 'I-751 petition was not properly filed'. Discovered ex-spouse made false allegations to USCIS in 2015. No opportunity given to review & refute allegations  - contrary to USCIS policy.

I-751 #2 - Oct 2017 - Mar 2021[Denied] 

 

October 2017: Within 72hrs of receiving denial notice, a new waiver I-751, divorce decree & $680 cheque, sent to Vermont via FedEx overnight 9am priority.  
Dec 2019: Filed FOIA request for full A# file
Feb 2020: FOIA request completed - entire A# file received as a .PDF; 197 pages fully redacted, and 80 partially redacted. Don't waste your time!
March 2021: I-751 #2 denied for lack of evidence. No RFE, no interview, and evidence in previous I-751 not reviewed - contrary to policy. Huge errors in adjudication.

N-400 - Feb 2018 - Apr 2021 [Denied]

 

February 2018: N-400 filed online.  $725 paid to the USCIS paperwork wastage fund

February  2019: Interview - cancelled after a four hour wait due to 'missing paperwork' on their end. Promised Expedited reschedule.

March 2021: Interview letter received, strangely dated after I-751 denial. No I-751 interview conducted. N-400 interview and test passed, given 'cannot make a decision at this time' paper due to the ongoing I-751 nightmare...

April 2021: N-400 denial received citing recent I-751 denial as basis for ineligibility, even though it should have been a combo interview 🤯

I AM JACK'S COMPLETE LACK OF SURPRISE

Service Motion - March 2021 [Sent via FedEx & COMPLETELY IGNORED by USCIS]

 

March 2021: Service Motion request sent overnight addressed direectly to field office director, requesting urgent review and re-opening, based on errors in adjudication - citing USCIS policy, AFM and memorandums as basis for errors. This was completely ignored by USCIS.

 I-751 #3 - June 2021 - Jan 2024 [Denied]

 

IT'S GROUNDHOG DAY

June 2021: I-751 #3 (30+lbs/5000 pages of paperwork) & another $680 sent to USCIS via FedEx ($300+..thanks) .... 

June 2021: Receipt issued, card charged, biometrics waived, infopass scheduled for I-551 stamp number ten.....

Feb 2022: RFIE (no, not an RFE, a Request For Initial Evidence) received, for copies of the divorce paperwork that they already have 😑

July 2022: Infopass for I-551 stamp number eleven.....

August 2023: Infopass for I-551 stamp number twelve....

January 2024: Denial received, ignoring the overwhelming majority of the filing, abundance of evidence, and refutation of a provably false allegation. The denial also contradicts itself in multiple places, as if it was written by someone with an IQ <50.

HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

2024: FML. Seriously. I'm done. 

 

Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Nepal
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Posted
3 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

Which is exactly what I said..... prepare it, get it ready, and get it sent as soon as the final divorce is in hand.

 

There is a misconception that the waiver is something that is filed or extra - it isn't, it is just the box on the form (or if already filed, a simple letter noting the switch).

Yeah, also spoke with the officer. He said my previous i-751 file is closed. So, next week I will be filing entirely new packet. Only the difference will be that single file check mark. Phew! Your profile shows you filed twice too? can I ask the reason?

Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Nepal
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Posted
10 minutes ago, mindthegap said:

Which is exactly what I said..... prepare it, get it ready, and get it sent as soon as the final divorce is in hand.

 

There is a misconception that the waiver is something that is filed or extra - it isn't, it is just the box on the form (or if already filed, a simple letter noting the switch).

Nevermind. I did not see the hide content. Read it. Thats a lot of stress to handle. USCIS can give you depression

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Posted
On 7/24/2019 at 11:50 AM, longuscisprocess said:

Update on my case: Finalized the final decree, sent whole new waiver based package today with another filing fee. Will see what they say after receiving. Waiting for years now. AGAIN.

What happened meanwhile and what is the current status?

Have you ever found out if the withdrawal of your first I 751 by your husband was handled correctly?

Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Nepal
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Posted
6 hours ago, InhaleExhale said:

What happened meanwhile and what is the current status?

Have you ever found out if the withdrawal of your first I 751 by your husband was handled correctly?

My first I751(jointly filed april 2018) was withdrawn by USC-ex spouse. Filed second based on waiver after receiving final divorce decree, received another extension letter, stamped my passport 3 weeks ago, waiting continues.

Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, longuscisprocess said:

My first I751(jointly filed april 2018) was withdrawn by USC-ex spouse. Filed second based on waiver after receiving final divorce decree, received another extension letter, stamped my passport 3 weeks ago, waiting continues.

Yes, that is what I was wondering about: I read through the entire thread and many eyebrows were raised regarding your ROC petition being completely withdrawn by USCIS. Was this handled correctly? It appears so..?

That means that USCIS has to dismiss a joint ROC petition when the USC spouse withdraws? Instead of giving the alien spouse the option to switch to divorce waiver they have to dismiss the entire petition?

Edited by InhaleExhale
Filed: Lift. Cond. (pnd) Country: Nepal
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Posted
2 hours ago, InhaleExhale said:

Yes, that is what I was wondering about: I read through the entire thread and many eyebrows were raised regarding your ROC petition being completely withdrawn by USCIS. Was this handled correctly? It appears so..?

That means that USCIS has to dismiss a joint ROC petition when the USC spouse withdraws? Instead of giving the alien spouse the option to switch to divorce waiver they have to dismiss the entire petition?

I don't know if this was handled properly or not. I inquired about it and took big stress on it, I could file a motion but that would instead delay my case, it was better to re-file the entire case. When i went for the stamp for my passport, I spoke with one of the officer. He told me, if it was joint than USC also has right to withdraw his signature. At this point, I have a stamp on my passport and I am working, I am out of exhausted relationship. All I can do it wait for approval or interview. I am not taking any more stress about it, looking forward for the best new year :)

Posted
On 12/31/2019 at 2:46 PM, longuscisprocess said:

I don't know if this was handled properly or not. I inquired about it and took big stress on it, I could file a motion but that would instead delay my case, it was better to re-file the entire case. When i went for the stamp for my passport, I spoke with one of the officer. He told me, if it was joint than USC also has right to withdraw his signature. At this point, I have a stamp on my passport and I am working, I am out of exhausted relationship. All I can do it wait for approval or interview. I am not taking any more stress about it, looking forward for the best new year :)

You have an awesome attitude :) I hope all will go great for you!

  • 1 month later...
Posted

Hi,

 

I am married to USC for 3.5 years now. I have to apply for ROC in April, GC is expiring in July. I moved to States in July 2018, in May 2019 husband and I had an argument. Since then till now he is living at his parents and I’m living at our marital house (been 9 months). We are still married. He is ready to file joint petition and go to interview but I’m so confused how to go about it. He wants divorce soon too. Should I go for joint petition or it’s better to get divorce and file with a waiver? Any help @mindthegap. @Villanelle

 
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