Judge Denies Marriage License

[Ban Hammer 13,342]

they use to deny marriage license to folks of a different color..and it was law...was it right ..no..is this ruling correct..no and it was overturned....all people have rights here..we are not a 3rd world country..everyone deserves respect ..read the ###### constitution and show me where it says CITIZENS ONLY have these rights..

that's an easy one.......

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

It doesn't say citizen. Or permanent resident. Besides the point, as there's not a blessed thing in the Constitution about marriage.

we the people implies citizens.......

The constitution doesn't apply to me? I didn't know that...

probably so now, as you are a lpr. back then one was either a citizen or not.

[almaty 19]

they use to deny marriage license to folks of a different color..and it was law...was it right ..no..is this ruling correct..no and it was overturned....all people have rights here..we are not a 3rd world country..everyone deserves respect ..read the ###### constitution and show me where it says CITIZENS ONLY have these rights..

that's an easy one.......

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

It doesn't say citizen. Or permanent resident. Besides the point, as there's not a blessed thing in the Constitution about marriage.

we the people implies citizens.......

The constitution doesn't apply to me? I didn't know that...

probably so now, as you are a lpr. back then one was either a citizen or not.

nope, it does not apply citizens at all...and if they want to clarify it..pass an amendment...

[Caladan 19]

they use to deny marriage license to folks of a different color..and it was law...was it right ..no..is this ruling correct..no and it was overturned....all people have rights here..we are not a 3rd world country..everyone deserves respect ..read the ###### constitution and show me where it says CITIZENS ONLY have these rights..

that's an easy one.......

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

It doesn't say citizen. Or permanent resident. Besides the point, as there's not a blessed thing in the Constitution about marriage.

we the people implies citizens.......

Historically, it hasn't been taken to apply that way. That's why a permanent resident can, say, work for a newspaper, or buy a handgun. That's why we still need evidence to arrest illegals. That's why you don't have to prove your citizenship to get a court date.

And most of the rights have been generally construed to mean more or less anyone here, which is why a lot of the recent post-9/11 wankery with habeas corpus only applying to citizens (except when it doesn't) has been so hotly contested. "People" has generally been construed as broadly as possible. That's just history.

It doesn't say "person" of the United States, Scott. It says "people." And that sounds like a stupid distinction, but "people" isn't always the plural of "person" in legal texts, and that's true of Constitutional stuff, too. (So, "the people" might have a collective right to have an army, but I as a "person" might not, because it's a right I don't have individually, but as a member of a group.) It comes up in determining whether rights are held by the individual or collectively.

Plus, it couldn't have meant "citizens" then, because there aren't any American citizens before there is a Constitution.

[Alex+R 0]

Interesting now that some think the Constitution needs to be interpreted from a modern perspective (in this case, wrongly) but the Second Amendment does not...

[mawilson 2,133]

What's good for the UK is surely good for the USA.

Hell NO.

1) Gun control

2) CCTV surveillance society

3) ID cards

4) DNA database spanning most of the UK population

5) Electronic tagging of asylum seekers

6) Control orders

Thanks but no thanks.

[almaty 19]

of course, you are correct..cause the same folks who wave the constitution on their favorite amendment/s ignore it on others

[Caladan 19]

Yeah, the UK's great in a lot of ways, but I'm really a big fan of American liberty and am not willing to trade it so some illegal has to file a K-1 instead of a K-3.

[eau_xplain 2]

they use to deny marriage license to folks of a different color..and it was law...was it right ..no..is this ruling correct..no and it was overturned....all people have rights here..we are not a 3rd world country..everyone deserves respect ..read the ###### constitution and show me where it says CITIZENS ONLY have these rights..

that's an easy one.......

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

It doesn't say citizen. Or permanent resident. Besides the point, as there's not a blessed thing in the Constitution about marriage.

we the people implies citizens.......

The constitution doesn't apply to me? I didn't know that...

probably so now, as you are a lpr. back then one was either a citizen or not.

Charles, Charles .... are you then saying that non-citizens and non-LPRs don't have any of the rights stated in the US constitution? So, pretty much anyone who is here on a K or H or B or L visa is pretty much screwed when it comes to rights?

[pedroh 21]

ah...if my process sucks, everyone else's should suck too.. if my fiance(e) paperwork takes 2 years, is thanks to the illegal aliens (#######?)... of course, everything that happens in ur life is thanks to the illegal aliens, gas prices, slow processing @ USCIS, ecoli...

When I first got here, it was frustrating that USCIS lost my 1st EAD and took 3 extra months to get it, while seeing Jose and Co working withouh speaking a word of english.... but back then and now, their do's and dont's have NEVER ever affected my visa procedures, the lenght of paperwork, or if I get a job or not... so, 'the anger' 'the frustration'.. it's not about the protection of the Constitution of the good ole' USA.. is for your own arses, so stop using excuses of 'freedom', 'laws', and all that BS.. its just, selfishness, nothing new...

[Sinergy 3]

Right Pedroh, THE US CITIZENS who have rights are selfish bc the ILLEGAL immigrants are trying to use rights they dont have (hence they are illegal immigrants). I will keep that in mind.

[pedroh 21]

Right Pedroh, THE US CITIZENS who have rights are selfish bc the ILLEGAL immigrants are trying to use rights they dont have (hence they are illegal immigrants). I will keep that in mind.

no, i'm saying, most of the rants here are because their SO's paperwork is slow, and it's not even close to related with the illegal immigrants situation.. it's like blaming your neighbor for your high car payments.. not related..

[Sinergy 3]

Right Pedroh, THE US CITIZENS who have rights are selfish bc the ILLEGAL immigrants are trying to use rights they dont have (hence they are illegal immigrants). I will keep that in mind.

no, i'm saying, most of the rants here are because their SO's paperwork is slow, and it's not even close to related with the illegal immigrants situation.. it's like blaming your neighbor for your high car payments.. not related..

Ok gotcha!!

Does this mean i CANT blame my neighbor for my high car payments?

[pedroh 21]

Right Pedroh, THE US CITIZENS who have rights are selfish bc the ILLEGAL immigrants are trying to use rights they dont have (hence they are illegal immigrants). I will keep that in mind.

no, i'm saying, most of the rants here are because their SO's paperwork is slow, and it's not even close to related with the illegal immigrants situation.. it's like blaming your neighbor for your high car payments.. not related..

Ok gotcha!!

Does this mean i CANT blame my neighbor for my high car payments?

well depends, is he from the car dealership u bought it from?

[Sinergy 3]

Right Pedroh, THE US CITIZENS who have rights are selfish bc the ILLEGAL immigrants are trying to use rights they dont have (hence they are illegal immigrants). I will keep that in mind.

no, i'm saying, most of the rants here are because their SO's paperwork is slow, and it's not even close to related with the illegal immigrants situation.. it's like blaming your neighbor for your high car payments.. not related..

Ok gotcha!!

Does this mean i CANT blame my neighbor for my high car payments?

well depends, is he from the car dealership u bought it from?

No, i guess i cant, did you have to bring that to my attention??

you have ruined my day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Caladan 19]

I think I'm going to start blaming illegals for my dissertation.