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1 minute ago, teshah said:

Why the assumptions?  I'm not Indian and neither are my parents.  I also know what sponsorship means and yes, we were financially liable for my parents while they were here including purchasing their round trip tickets.  Different embassies have different requirements for citizens of whatever country wanting to visit the US.  The US embassy in Nairobi for example  under documents required for the B visa explicitly states that "If you cannot cover all the costs for your trip, you may show evidence that another person will cover some or all of the costs for your trip". This is usually translates to 6 months' checking account statements. The source is from https://ais.usvisa-info.com/en-ke/niv/information/required_docs which is not an "Indian-centric website". It's your prerogative to believe your truth and I will stick to mine.

How were you financially liable?

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5 minutes ago, teshah said:

Why the assumptions?  I'm not Indian and neither are my parents.  I also know what sponsorship means and yes, we were financially liable for my parents while they were here including purchasing their round trip tickets.  Different embassies have different requirements for citizens of whatever country wanting to visit the US.  The US embassy in Nairobi for example  under documents required for the B visa explicitly states that "If you cannot cover all the costs for your trip, you may show evidence that another person will cover some or all of the costs for your trip". This is usually translates to 6 months' checking account statements. The source is from https://ais.usvisa-info.com/en-ke/niv/information/required_docs which is not an "Indian-centric website". It's your prerogative to believe your truth and I will stick to mine.

Just an assumption I made (apologies I was mistaken) because the sponsorship for a B2 fallacy is held primarily by Indian nationals. 

 

No affidavit of support presented for a B2 visa can force anyone to leave the US, none. There it is not sponsorship. Anyone may invite, support someone from overseas, it is not sponsorship! Nothing on DoS/USemb websites use the term sponsorship for a B2. 

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5 minutes ago, WeGuyGal said:

Just an assumption I made (apologies I was mistaken) because the sponsorship for a B2 fallacy is held primarily by Indian nationals. 

 

No affidavit of support presented for a B2 visa can force anyone to leave the US, none. There it is not sponsorship. Anyone may invite, support someone from overseas, it is not sponsorship! Nothing on DoS/USemb websites use the term sponsorship for a B2. 

Apologies accepted! "There are many ways to sponsor an alien. In the immigration field, the term "sponsor" often means to bring to the United States or "petition for".  https://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/sponsor I think in this case "to bring" also means "to invite".

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1 minute ago, teshah said:

Apologies accepted! "There are many ways to sponsor an alien. In the immigration field, the term "sponsor" often means to bring to the United States or "petition for".  https://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/sponsor I think in this case "to bring" also means "to invite".

It means to immigrate.

 

How were you financially liable?

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3 minutes ago, Boiler said:

It means to immigrate.

 

How were you financially liable?

Covered all their expenses while they were here so they were not a public charge.

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Just now, teshah said:

Covered all their expenses while they were here so they were not a public charge.

You said you were financially liable, how so?

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2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

You said you were financially liable, how so?

What is your understanding of "financial liability"?

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1 hour ago, teshah said:

I agree the applicant has to show strong ties to their home country but they also need to prove that they have funds to support themselves while here and not going to be a public charge.  So I will still maintain, we sponsored them otherwise, financial statements from applicant or sponsor would not be one of the documents required by the embassy officials and even listed on the embassy website in my home country.

So, you say the official department of state website is lying? 

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2 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

So, you say the official department of state website is lying? 

Not at all.  I'm saying that when overseas, the US embassies also have their own criteria which they use to grant or deny visas.  Please read my comment again.

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4 minutes ago, teshah said:

Not at all.  I'm saying that when overseas, the US embassies also have their own criteria which they use to grant or deny visas.  Please read my comment again.

And the official website specifically says that invitation letters or affidavits of support are NOT taken into account.

You offered to pay some money, I get that. I fully understand tourists need to show they can fund their visits; I was a regular B visitor for nearly two decades before moving. But you seem to willfully misunderstand what people are saying here about “sponsoring” a tourist visa, and by doing so you are, intentionally or mistakenly in good faith, misleading other people as to what they can use to get a tourist visa approved.

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Kenya
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13 minutes ago, SusieQQQ said:

And the official website specifically says that invitation letters or affidavits of support are NOT taken into account.

You offered to pay some money, I get that. I fully understand tourists need to show they can fund their visits; I was a regular B visitor for nearly two decades before moving. But you seem to willfully misunderstand what people are saying here about “sponsoring” a tourist visa, and by doing so you are, intentionally or mistakenly in good faith, misleading other people as to what they can use to get a tourist visa approved.

I understand what you are saying but I was also going by what the OFFICIAL US Embassy in Kenya asks for from tourist visa applicants in terms of financial documents when they can't support themselves i.e. "If you cannot cover all the costs for your trip, you may show evidence that another person will cover some or all of the costs for your trip".  Someone on another thread FINALLY explained to me why this is not sponsorship (lack of official government directive on sponsoring of a tourist visa) so my apologies.

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Maybe I'm getting old or my eyes are playing tricks, but am not seeing the term sponsorship for a B2 tourist visa in either of the links OP cited. 

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10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Kenya
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6 minutes ago, WeGuyGal said:

Maybe I'm getting old or my eyes are playing tricks, but am not seeing the term sponsorship for a B2 tourist visa in either of the links OP cited. 

I'm not the OP but if you're referring to me, then your point is moot.  As I stated in the comment right above yours, someone explained to me why and I now understand why your are all saying a tourist visa cannot be sponsored.

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22 minutes ago, teshah said:

I understand what you are saying but I was also going by what the OFFICIAL US Embassy in Kenya asks for from tourist visa applicants in terms of financial documents when they can't support themselves i.e. "If you cannot cover all the costs for your trip, you may show evidence that another person will cover some or all of the costs for your trip".  Someone on another thread FINALLY explained to me why this is not sponsorship (lack of official government directive on sponsoring of a tourist visa) so my apologies.

I was going to reply to inform you that your “sponsorship” can not be legally enforced but I see you have discovered this already. 

 

Ths is is why it is stated  that true sponsorship, like those with family visas, is not done with tourist visas. It is more like financial help.

 

 

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Filed: F-2A Visa Country: Nigeria
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Hello everyone,

 

I guess this question is no longer necessary. My mother in law just left the US consulate in Lagos with all smiles. She was approved for a tourist visa to the US even though she didn’t have a hefty bank account.  She wasn’t asked about any income status or lengthy questions. Just her sons name, purpose of her visit and where she’s going. That’s it! 

 

Thanks for all your answers. No one can say for sure what they will ask but I doubt that financial status is that important if your son/daughter is inviting you for a quick visit. 

 
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