Reddit’s The_Donald Was One Of The Biggest Havens For Russian Propaganda During 2016 Election, Analysis Finds

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1 hour ago, cyberfx1024 said:

So voting for a person who left people to die in a embassy while it was being attacked is a ok to be President, but a guy who was a legitimate business man and did have grievances(as does everybody) is not ok to be President?

Yes, it was OK, because she was Hillary!  They used to call Bill slick, Hillary is positively Teflon.

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July 9th 2008- There were no casualties in the attack apart from the three attackers and three police officers(Turkish)

 

March 2nd 2008- I couldn't find anything for this date. Sources?

 

September 12, 2006-

The attackers threw grenades at the compound, according to witnesses, and shot at the guards with assault rifles during the 15- to 20-minute clash, which left three of the gunmen dead and the fourth reportedly wounded.

In addition to the slain security officer, another guard was wounded, along with a Chinese diplomat and several civilians, including seven Syrian workers and two Iraqis. No Americans were wounded, the embassy said in a statement.

 

On March 2, 2006, a suicide car bomb killed four people and injured thirty outside the Marriott Hotel in Karachi, which is about 20 yards from the consulate. Among the dead was David Foy, an American diplomat and three Pakistanis. It appears that Foy was the direct target of the bomber, who detonated his vehicle in the car park behind the consulate as Foy arrived. The bomb was reported to be the most powerful attack of its kind in Karachi, and it left a two-metre crater in the car park and destroyed at least ten nearby cars

 

December 6, 2004- We have five confirmed dead among our locally engaged staff and one of them is a contract [security] guard," the US embassy spokeswoman Carol Kalin said.

She said no Americans had been killed and a "handful of other employees" had been taken to hospital. Security sources told Reuters the dead were Arabs and Asians.

June 30, 2004-A bomb went off by both the Israeli and the USA embassy. Two local men guarding the Israeli embassy were killed in the blast near the building's entrance.

February 28, 2003-  Gunmen opened fire on a police post guarding the U.S. Consulate in Karachi on Friday, killing two policemen and injuring at least five others, police and hospital officials said. No Americans were wounded in the attack. "The consulate is very well protected and all the Americans were inside," Police Chief Kamal Shah told reporters outside the U.S. building.

June 14, 2002- On the morning of June 14, 2002, a truck with a fertilizer bomb driven by a suicide bomber was detonated outside the United States Consulate in Karachi, Pakistan. Twelve people were killed and 51 injured, all Pakistanis

January 22, 2002- Four police constables and a private security guard were killed and 20 other people injured when, on January 22, 2002, Islamic militants attacked an American cultural centre in Kolkata, India. The centre houses a library, the American embassy's public affairs office, a press section and a cultural wing.^[1]

 

 

So out off all this that you posted on 1 American died and she wasn't even a consulate or embassy employee she was just trying get her husband a visa to the USA. So nice try and why don't you fact check something before spit it out..... Oh yeah that's right it does not fit your narrative or talking points.

 

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12 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

i'm really not interested in arguing over benghazi, especially not when your argument is that you've ACTUALLY been to the closest air base. i mean, why did we spend all that money on an investigation when they could have just asked you if you'd ever been to the closest air base before?

You wanted to know why I voted for Trump and not Killary and that was one of the biggest reasons there was. Yes, I went to the air base during one of my deployments in the Marines. So your tell me that a Naval Air Station does not have any aircraft to support them???? That's a load of hogwash if I ever heard it.

 

When NATO took military intervention to Libya in 2011, NAS Sigonella played an important role in US Operation Odyssey Dawn because of its short distance to the country.

 

 

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17 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

wow. out of line, so far out of line.

if you want to start a benghazi thread go for it. otherwise, keep to the op.

How is it out of line? He posted a BS meme on how many deaths had happened under Bush at consulates or embassies around the world. I simply responded with an ACTUAL FACT and not a talking point that 1 American was killed, and she wasn't even a employee there.

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2 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

You wanted to know why I voted for Trump and not Killary and that was one of the biggest reasons there was. Yes, I went to the air base during one of my deployments in the Marines. So your tell me that a Naval Air Station does not have any aircraft to support them???? That's a load of hogwash if I ever heard it.

 

When NATO took military intervention to Libya in 2011, NAS Sigonella played an important role in US Operation Odyssey Dawn because of its short distance to the country.

 

 

i don't care who you voted for or why. i said i didn't think so many americans would vote for a conman. i was wrong. a bunch of you did.

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6 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

 

i don't care who you voted for or why. i said i didn't think so many americans would vote for a conman. i was wrong. a bunch of you did.

I say again I would vote for him again ANY DAY OF THE WEEK before I would EVER vote for Killary.

 

He may not be perfect or PC and that's ok with me, but at least with him I know he actually cares about the USA.

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10 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

How is it out of line? He posted a BS meme on how many deaths had happened under Bush at consulates or embassies around the world. I simply responded with an ACTUAL FACT and not a talking point that 1 American was killed, and she wasn't even a employee there.

'oh that's right you live in a bubble'.. all while you argue it makes no difference that false information is spread by foreign entities in order to cause discord in our country. and you actually defend that intrusion over your fellow americans because you (i guess) honestly believe that the former administration wanted people to die in benghazi, they made sure people died in benghazi. it's absurd and based not based in fact. guess that's why the russian propaganda campaign worked so well - your hatred of americans that don't agree with you trumps everything.

and why doesn't that american death matter to you? not being a consulate employee made her less american?

2 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

 

He may not be perfect or PC and that's ok with me, but at least with him I know he actually cares about the USA.

you don't actually know that. he cares about himself and his family. even his family is tangent on what they can do for him. typical con. sorry you buy it.

Edited February 21, 2018 by smilesammich

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4 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

'oh that's right you live in a bubble'.. all while you argue it makes no difference that false information is spread by foreign entities in order to cause discord in our country. and you actually defend that intrusion over your fellow americans because you (i guess) honestly believe that the former administration wanted people to die in benghazi, they made sure people died in benghazi. it's absurd and based not based in fact. guess that's why the russian propaganda campaign worked so well - you're hatred of americans that don't agree with you trumps everything.

and why doesn't that american death matter to you? not being a consulate employee made her less american?

I never have I EVER defended intrusion or manipulation in to our election or our voting. I have ALWAYS said on here that I would not be surprised if the Russians spread fake news around on the internet in places like FB and Reddit because we did the same thing in 2012 to Putin. I have said that since DAY 1, I am not like you and can try to change my views depending on how the wind shifts here in CEHST.

 

My hatred for American's that agree with me or trump??? Yeah, that's wrong because my two best friends in both can't stand Trump at all. While living out in CA I would routinely talk politics with my neighbor/best friend all the while drinking tequila and Mexican food(he's Latino btw).

 

Any American death around the world bothers me and that's the truth. @JimandChristy would to put a meme up showing deaths on that day like it was either all Americans or all American consulate employees when in reality it wasn't.

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21 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

I never have I EVER defended intrusion or manipulation in to our election or our voting. I have ALWAYS said on here that I would not be surprised if the Russians spread fake news around on the internet in places like FB and Reddit because we did the same thing in 2012 to Putin. I have said that since DAY 1, I am not like you and can try to change my views depending on how the wind shifts here in CEHST.

 

My hatred for American's that agree with me or trump??? Yeah, that's wrong because my two best friends in both can't stand Trump at all. While living out in CA I would routinely talk politics with my neighbor/best friend all the while drinking tequila and Mexican food(he's Latino btw).

 

Any American death around the world bothers me and that's the truth. @JimandChristy would to put a meme up showing deaths on that day like it was either all Americans or all American consulate employees when in reality it wasn't.

your very first comment in this thread. am i talking to the same person?

how have my views changed with the wind shifts? do tell.

you get angry pretty easily here. i don't know what having a 'latino' friend and eating mexican food has to do with your responses to people on the internet who don't agree with you.

i don't understand why you think he was posting that to show consulate employee deaths..the list was attacks on consulates under bush. you flew off the handle talking about how that death didn't count. if any american death around the world bothers you, i sure couldn't tell from your posting in this thread.

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16 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

your very first comment in this thread. am i talking to the same person?

how have my views changed with the wind shifts? do tell.

you get angry pretty easily here. i don't know what having a 'latino' friend and eating mexican food has to do with your responses to people on the internet who don't agree with you.

i don't understand why you think he was posting that to show consulate employee deaths..the list was attacks on consulates under bush. you flew off the handle talking about how that death didn't count. if any american death around the world bothers you, i sure couldn't tell from your posting in this thread.

I am not talking about on this thread right now. I am talking about how some other threads your opinion changes sometimes by the page when in reality is ok if your learning something new.

 

I never defended any type of collusion or manipulation at all. I am saying that if a subforum on Reddit or FB posts is the extent of collusion then that is laughable at best.

 

You said that I hate anyone who does not back Trump so I am trying to show you that I do not hate anyone that doesn't like Trump. It's actually the opposite I will sit down with them so we can talk, socialize, and just bs around.

 

I firmly agree that I do get angry and for that I do apologize for. I have worked on some serious anger management meditation for PTSD and TBI issues which has paid off in the real world.

 

I talked about the death count because 4 Americans were killed in Benghazi and several were seriously wounded. The reason I got mad is because he spouts off some meme about how supposedly 60 Americans were killed under Bush at various embassies/consulates. Which if you look at the meme without going in to the actual context about it then yes it does like Americans and not just everyone. At least that's the way I though of it.

 

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2 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

I am not talking about on this thread right now. I am talking about how some other threads your opinion changes sometimes by the page when in reality is ok if your learning something new.

 

I never defended any type of collusion or manipulation at all. I am saying that if a subforum on Reddit or FB posts is the extent of collusion then that is laughable at best.

 

You said that I hate anyone who does not back Trump so I am trying to show you that I do not hate anyone that doesn't like Trump. It's actually the opposite I will sit down with them so we can talk, socialize, and just bs around.

 

I firmly agree that I do get angry and for that I do apologize for. I have worked on some serious anger management meditation for PTSD and TBI issues which has paid off in the real world.

 

I talked about the death count because 4 Americans were killed in Benghazi and several were seriously wounded. The reason I got mad is because he spouts off some meme about how supposedly 60 Americans were killed under Bush at various embassies/consulates. Which if you look at the meme without going in to the actual context about it then yes it does like Americans and not just everyone. At least that's the way I though of it.

 

yeah, i'm asking for examples of where my opinion has changed.

 

you're totally contradicting yourself here. right within this exact thread.

 

i said you get very angry at anyone who disagrees with you - here. i don't know or care to know how you interact with your friends in real life.

 

60 americans were killed at various embassies/consulates under bush. i would gather most presidents have a pretty extensive american body count on their watch. thats just how it goes. consulates and embassies get attacked. for some reason, many people believe that obama/hillary wanted people to die and arranged it that way. maybe it has something to do with the number of people that think obama is actually a muslim and terrorist. or think that hillary is actually a reptilian baby eater. i'm no hillary fan, i really didn't want to vote for her - i didn't think i'd have to. but the reasons i dislike her aren't based on some hannity/infowars saga.

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2 hours ago, cyberfx1024 said:

It is not a mischaracterization of Benghazi at all. They were literally sitting on the ground at the consulate and the black site for over 12 hours with no support at all because there was supposedly "Nobody close enough to support them". Sorry I called BS on that as soon as I heard it because I have ACTUALLY been to the closest air base that we have to Libya, which it is right outside of Catagonia Sicily. Sigonella Naval Air station that could have sent fast movers over to help provide ANY type of support whatsoever.

It was also reported several times by some military that they were geared up and ready to go but were told to stand down. A commander at Africom was forcibly retired because he got into a argument with State because State told them to Stand Down and he was going to send people anyway until he was relieved of command.

 Facts.  Inconvenient to many who just want to put their heads in the sand and pretend it all never happened.  I remember the general getting fired for disobeying the stand down order.  General Ham, if memory serves me correctly.

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18 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

 Facts.  Inconvenient to many who just want to put their heads in the sand and pretend it all never happened.  I remember the general getting fired for disobeying the stand down order.  General Ham, if memory serves me correctly.

facts or michael bay movie? because ham wasn't fired.

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39 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

facts or michael bay movie? because ham wasn't fired.

I have no idea who Michael Bay is, nor anything about a movie.  I only speak of the sudden “retiring” of Gen. Ham after Benghazi.  

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1 minute ago, IDWAF said:

I have no idea who Michael Bay is, nor anything about a movie.  I only speak of the sudden “retiring” of Gen. Ham after Benghazi.  

well, i'm speaking the truth and not spreading fiction (you literally said "fired"). you should try it sometime.

 

https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussions/general-carter-ham-fired-rumor-577095/

https://www.snopes.com/politics/military/benghazi.asp

https://www.truthorfiction.com/general-ham-fired/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Ham