An Internal Job Promotion with significant additional responsibility,

[SoL. 0]

50-percent more work, means 50-percent more time away from your family. For me to make that choice, I'd need more money. And if the 30-percent pay hike kicks me into a higher tax-bracket, maybe its not financially as good as it seems. There is a lot to be said about having a stable job, ability to support the family, and also having significant time to share your life with your family.

Agree 100%

Not to mention the possibility of termination. If the last three in that position were sacked, I believe I would think long and hard before putting myself in a position of possible unemployment...that would directly affect my family. More is not always best.

Specially with an increase on the stress level.

[Yodrak 7]

William,

The questions are too conceptual - the devil is always in the details.

Yodrak

Thoughts?

[tom&tata 2]

It depends on what you want. Are you willing to put on more hours/stress for the pay increase ? How about your spouse/family ?

Good luck in whatever you decide !

[Saddle Bronc 124]

Not sure, positively if "acceptable" location (and grossly negatively if non-acceptable location), yes

[jg_am 0]

There was a job at my company for more responsibility and the person that got it is leaving because of the srutiny of another suupervisor and the strain o his family. I don't do a whole lot of work at my job(nature of the business) so any thing more I do will be a lot.

[William33 110]

I am really suprised with the low numbers in the "I would take it column". Perhaps I did not provide enough details.

The job would be in Denver.

The additional responsibility is double the staff (40 > 80), likely not a major increase in hours.

The last 3 were sacked because they were not specialists in this field and it showed.

Fortunately, we have time to make a decision. Although, Eva is already fully supportive of the promotion/relocation.

Guess I have my answer?

[SoL. 0]

I think you are ready for the change Good luck! Denver is so awesome.

[William33 110]

I think you are ready for the change Good luck! Denver is so awesome.

Why the change in position from above? The new facts?

I appreciate all input from the VJ community. This is why I cannot stay away from here!!!

[Caladan 19]

William, like Yodrak says, the devil is in the details. So I have two questions: suppose you take the job, and through no fault of your own, like your predecessors, you are fired after three months.

1) How easy will it be for you to move to another position in a comparable salary range?

2) Do you like Denver enough to relocate and lose a job?

You sound like you really want it.

[SoL. 0]

I think you are ready for the change Good luck! Denver is so awesome.

Why the change in position from above? The new facts?

I appreciate all input from the VJ community. This is why I cannot stay away from here!!!

William,

From your previous post, I saw as that you seem to be ready for a change and that you feel qualified for the position. That is why I wished you luck if you are actually going to move.

But I still think (from my point of view) like my previous post because I was in a managing position before that required a lot more responsibility and more stress. I decided to change my job because it was taking too much time from my family and wearing me out. I was working too much and barely had weekends or time free. Always tired. It was too much for me even tho the salary was great. Now I am in another position, the salary is not as high as a manager's but it's still very good. I have plenty of time for my family and less stress! I don't miss being a boss at all

I would evaluate the details and fine/small print for this job. I think you would like to make the change but, are you ready to realocate in Denver?

Edited May 3, 2007 by Sol-de-Verano

[William33 110]

I think you are ready for the change Good luck! Denver is so awesome.

Why the change in position from above? The new facts?

I appreciate all input from the VJ community. This is why I cannot stay away from here!!!

William,

From your previous post, I saw as that you seem to be ready for a change and that you feel qualified for the position. That is why I wished you luck if you are actually going to move.

But I still think (from my point of view) like my previous post because I was in a managing position before that required a lot more responsibility and more stress. I decided to change my job because it was taking too much time from my family and wearing me out. I was working too much and barely had weekends or time free. Always tired. It was too much for me even tho the salary was great. Now I am in another position, the salary is not as high as a manager's but it's still very good. I have plenty of time for my family and less stress! I don't miss being a boss at all

I would evaluate the details and fine/small print for this job. I think you would like to make the change but, are you ready to realocate in Denver?

I appreciate your points, they are very well stated.

I really don't want to get into the money piece, as this not a popular topic on this site.

But we need detail here, for validation.

To clarify, the increase is $35,000. Those that are interested, can do the proportionate math. (30% increase).

With the relo in mind, I am compelled to jump on it. The bonus is appreciable also, a free ride to Indonesia this Fall, with money to spend?

However, I sense reservation from the seasoned VJ crowd. Any information is appreciated.

In case you are wondering, I can make my own decisions. Yet, I am curious about the opinions of the seasoned colleagues here. Is that wrong?

[SoL. 0]

William,

I don't think there's anything wrong with asking for opinions and to see different points of views from others outside the situation. It's a good thing to listen to others' experiences.

Hey that's definitely a $ increase + the bonus, sounds actually pretty good (Specially the trip part, yes!) I loved Denver when I was there. It's great.

[William33 110]

William,

I don't think there's anything wrong with asking for opinions and to see different points of views from others outside the situation. It's a good thing to listen to others' experiences.

Hey that's definitely a $ increase + the bonus, sounds actually pretty good (Specially the trip part, yes!) I loved Denver when I was there. It's great.

Thanks for the support, SDV!

Anyone else with comments?

[kitkat1 5]

William,

I don't think there's anything wrong with asking for opinions and to see different points of views from others outside the situation. It's a good thing to listen to others' experiences.

Hey that's definitely a $ increase + the bonus, sounds actually pretty good (Specially the trip part, yes!) I loved Denver when I was there. It's great.

Thanks for the support, SDV!

Anyone else with comments?

Hi William

It all comes down to your (and Eva's) priorities and the risk vs. reward. If it's a challenge you are really interested in taking, if Denver is a place you are both interested in living, and if you feel comfortable in terms of a fall-back plan should it not work out, no real reason not to do it. The extra money, bonus, relo, etc. is just great icing on the cake.

If it were me, I wouldn't do it. But that's because I don't like that kind of a role and I don't want to relocate to Denver. I personally feel better if I can make a change knowing that it doesn't have to be permanent if I don't love it. For me that means money in the bank if the job doesn't turn it well or my apartment rented on a short term lease in case the move doesn't work out. But I think you're probably much more comfortable with the whole big change concept based on all of the places you've lived and worked and it seems like a great opportunity.

Be sure to post what you decide!

[William33 110]

William,

I don't think there's anything wrong with asking for opinions and to see different points of views from others outside the situation. It's a good thing to listen to others' experiences.

Hey that's definitely a $ increase + the bonus, sounds actually pretty good (Specially the trip part, yes!) I loved Denver when I was there. It's great.

Thanks for the support, SDV!

Anyone else with comments?

Hi William

It all comes down to your (and Eva's) priorities and the risk vs. reward. If it's a challenge you are really interested in taking, if Denver is a place you are both interested in living, and if you feel comfortable in terms of a fall-back plan should it not work out, no real reason not to do it. The extra money, bonus, relo, etc. is just great icing on the cake.

If it were me, I wouldn't do it. But that's because I don't like that kind of a role and I don't want to relocate to Denver. I personally feel better if I can make a change knowing that it doesn't have to be permanent if I don't love it. For me that means money in the bank if the job doesn't turn it well or my apartment rented on a short term lease in case the move doesn't work out. But I think you're probably much more comfortable with the whole big change concept based on all of the places you've lived and worked and it seems like a great opportunity.

Be sure to post what you decide!

Kit,

First off, I have missed your input, where have you been?

As ususal, you balance reality with your understanding of the individual involved. This is a gift!!

You understand me well. With your advice coupled with Eva/William judgement, we will move forward with the offer.

Thanks Kit.

Send me a PM and let us know how you are doing!!