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Hi everyone,

 

I applied for a B-2 visa for my mother last year around Feb. She was interviewed in beginning of May 2017 and got the Administrative Processing 221(g) letter (I got the same thing when I came to US). But for me, it took 3 months and it was approved afterwards. But for her, it was refused just few weeks ago (Jan 2018). There's no information on why it was refused.

I checked couple of forums here, and everyone's keep saying it's not possible to get refused after AP. And please note that my mother is a housewife and I'm sure she doesn't have a criminal record.

When I had my AP, I heard from few people that when AP takes too long, they just update the status as Refused but it doesn't mean there was a specific reason for it, so you can reapply.

Do you think she still has a chance to reapply and get the visa?

 

Also note, we're Iranian. I have some thoughts it might be because of the new executive order that went into effect few months ago, but she has her son (me) here, so it shouldn't affect her.

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What ties does she have to Iran?  You say she is a housewife so there is not a job tying her to Iran.  What reason would she have to return to her home country?

 

Most tourist visas are denied because the applicant (your mother) cannot show that she will return home.  You, the US citizen, is a tie to the United States, she must overcome the presumed immigrant intent.

 

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A visa can be refused after AP

even a visa that is issued can be revoked 

happened to one of our VJ members

As of October 18 Iran was one of the countries on Trump's list

was there a later change?

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45 minutes ago, canadian_wife said:

What ties does she have to Iran?  You say she is a housewife so there is not a job tying her to Iran.  What reason would she have to return to her home country?

 

Most tourist visas are denied because the applicant (your mother) cannot show that she will return home.  You, the US citizen, is a tie to the United States, she must overcome the presumed immigrant intent.

 

Good luck 

Thanks for your fast response.

 

But if it was because of her ties to Iran, would the office reject her on the spot in the interview? I've always heard that people get rejected for that kind of reasons on the spot. So when they get the 221(g) letter, it usually means nothing else is wrong with the case, it just needs further background check. No?

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1 minute ago, kris&me said:

A visa can be refused after AP

even a visa that is issued can be revoked 

happened to one of our VJ members

As of October 18 Iran was one of the countries on Trump's list

was there a later change?

Hi, no there wasn't any change to it. But the executive order was specifically saying the ban does not apply to those who have a bona fide relationship with someone in United States. So that ban shouldn't really apply to her.

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I have never seen anyone say it is not possible to be refused after AP, i am sure people would correct somebody who said that.

 

She can apply for a Tourist Visa as often as she likes, there is no restriction.

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It’s most definitely possible to get a refusal after 221g. 221g means there is something they need to check or clarify. The decision could go either way once it has been checked. Plenty of refusals reported after AP.

I may be mistaken but as far as I know the “real” ban (not the one that got dragged through the courts) happened after your mom’s initial interview, hence she wouldn’t have been immediately refused. I was also under the impression that the “bona fide ties” thing has now been dropped and that only student and exchange visas are now issued from Iran. I haven’t read this all but it’s from an Iranian organization and may help you clarify: https://www.niacouncil.org/need-know-trumps-muslim-ban-3-0/

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For the sake of clarity, and obviously we do not know what religion if any your mother is, it is not a Muslim ban.

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In a proclamation Sunday night, Trump blocked the issuance of all visas from North Korea and Syria, while blocking nearly all visas from Iran except those for students and exchange visitors. Issuance of all immigrant visas and business and tourist visas was suspended from Chad, Libya and Yemen. (9/2017)

 

even visa can be revoked after being issued / it was about 2 years ago when this happened to a VJ member

 

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Visa's revoked, people with ESTA preclearance refused entry on the VWP, happens all the time.

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19 hours ago, moamzia said:

Hi, no there wasn't any change to it. But the executive order was specifically saying the ban does not apply to those who have a bona fide relationship with someone in United States. So that ban shouldn't really apply to her.

I think you are mistaken.  The ban in Sept affects most all citizens, other than some student visas....

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