K1 visa filipina co sponcer? Allan.s & lolly assoc?

[geowrian 22,338]

4 minutes ago, Corey high said:

And if i live alone trying to get her here im prob only going to make 15k this year is that acceptable with him joint sponcering?

Looks like taking the risk to co sponcer a k1 is looking better if thats how it is for joint sponcer

If you use a joint sponsor, your income level doesn't really matter as it is not included in the calculation. Your $15k is insufficient to sponsor them, so a joint sponsor is necessary. The $25k is borderline, so it seems risky to me tbh.

 

If doing a CR-1, they will require an I-864 and you can use the joint sponsor. However, as stated, that income level may not be accepted.

If doing a K-1, USEM typically does not ask for an I-134. If they don't, then you would be fine for the visa part (but read the line below!). If they do, you're basically in the same situation as above.

If the K-1 is approved, you would need to file for AOS after getting married in the US. This requires an I-864 as well, so you're back in the same predicament as the CR-1 visa....just a few months later (so maybe you would have another / a higher paying job or another joint sponsor by then?).

[BoostFreak12 13]

44 minutes ago, Corey high said:

We would have enough for co sponcer a k1 since its case to case i think since its my father they would accept that...  But some guy was saying the embacy in manilla hasnt been looking for income

Im dissapointed in my self that i cant even make 20k. I need my ged and to go back to school but for now i need to prob try the k1 and with my dad as a co sponcer i dont have any other option 

[BoostFreak12 13]

1 hour ago, geowrian said:

If you use a joint sponsor, your income level doesn't really matter as it is not included in the calculation. Your $15k is insufficient to sponsor them, so a joint sponsor is necessary. The $25k is borderline, so it seems risky to me tbh.

 

If doing a CR-1, they will require an I-864 and you can use the joint sponsor. However, as stated, that income level may not be accepted.

If doing a K-1, USEM typically does not ask for an I-134. If they don't, then you would be fine for the visa part (but read the line below!). If they do, you're basically in the same situation as above.

If the K-1 is approved, you would need to file for AOS after getting married in the US. This requires an I-864 as well, so you're back in the same predicament as the CR-1 visa....just a few months later (so maybe you would have another / a higher paying job or another joint sponsor by then?).

I know its 100% poverty line is 16k then 25% more for AOS which would be 20k ish.. And if they accept cosponcers on case to case basis its worth a shot... Its immediate family member so i think id have a good cjance. Honestly finding all this out has made me so depressed and confused i just want my girl to be with me. 

[BoostFreak12 13]

1 minute ago, Corey high said:

I know its 100% poverty line is 16k then 25% more for AOS which would be 20k ish.. And if they accept cosponcers on case to case basis its worth a shot... Its immediate family member so i think id have a good cjance. Honestly finding all this out has made me so depressed and confused i just want my girl to be with me. 

If i do co sponcer not joint sponcer im pretyy. Sure u can combine the income between us am i right?

[Crazy Cat 42,626]

5 hours ago, Corey high said:

Yes i know id marry her in davao city so her family and friends could be there then at the end of the year start the cr1 process..

Do u guys think.doing all the paperwork my self is best orr?

Some more food for thought::

 

K-1:

$535 for Form I-129F (filed with USCIS),

$265 to apply for the K visa (paid to the consulate),

$1,225 for Form I-485 and the adjustment of status packet (filed with USCIS), including the biometrics fee.

Total government U.S. fee cost: $2,025....Add to that transportation fees, medical exam fees, etc.

 

CR-1

$535 to USCIS for Form I-130,

$325 to the U.S. State Department to apply for the visa, and

$120 to the State Department for affidavit of support processing (if the I-864 form is reviewed by USCIS).

$220 Green Card Fee

Total government fee cost : $1,200....Add to that transportation fees, medical exam fees, etc.

 

Differences in Joint Sponsorship Requirements Between Fiancé and Marriage-Based Visas

If you can’t meet the poverty guidelines requirements at all—not even at the 100% level—your most likely next step is to look for a joint sponsor, as described in Strategies When an Immigrant's Sponsor's Income and Assets Are Too Low.

Although the sponsorship forms that you must sign are both called “Affidavit of Support,” the two do not have the same legal effect.

When you sign the affidavit of support form for a spouse (Form I-864), your responsibility to support your spouse or repay the U.S. government for any means-based public assistance that he or she receives is a serious, legally binding one. In fact, it lasts until your spouse becomes a U.S. citizen, has accomplished 40 work quarters credited toward Social Security, dies, or permanently leaves the United States. Your obligation continues even if you and spouse later get divorced.

When you sign the affidavit of support form required for fiancés (Form I-134), you are agreeing to sponsor the fiancé for a more limited period of time, and the form is not considered legally binding on you—in other words, even if you failed to provide this support, no one could sue you to force your compliance.

This difference is important, because the U.S. consulate has discretion about whether to recognize a joint sponsor who signs Form I-134 in connection with a K-1 fiancé visa. Practice has shown that consulates, knowing that a signature on Form I-134 has almost no legal weight, often deny this recognition. That leaves the fiancé ineligible for the visa.

What’s more, the typically lengthy decision making process at the consulate means that your fiancé’s case could be in process for a total time of more than a year before you find out that the K-1 fiancé application was denied due to your low income level.

Taking all of the above factors into account, most low-income couples find that the K-1 is the more difficult visa to obtain with low income.

One strategy you might want to consider is to choose the marriage-based visa, but still have a big wedding in the United States. This is still legally possible. You have the option of first getting legally married in the immigrant’s home country, perhaps in a short civil ceremony, and then having a big wedding ceremony in the U.S., at which time you can celebrate with friends after the immigration process is complete.

 

Edit:  I found the above on a web site.  I think it contains some good information.

 

Edited February 7, 2018 by missileman

[BoostFreak12 13]

13 minutes ago, missileman said:

Some more food for thought::

 

K-1:

$535 for Form I-129F (filed with USCIS),

$265 to apply for the K visa (paid to the consulate),

$1,225 for Form I-485 and the adjustment of status packet (filed with USCIS), including the biometrics fee.

Total government U.S. fee cost: $2,025....Add to that transportation fees, medical exam fees, etc.

 

CR-1

$535 to USCIS for Form I-130,

$325 to the U.S. State Department to apply for the visa, and

$120 to the State Department for affidavit of support processing (if the I-864 form is reviewed by USCIS).

$220 Green Card Fee

Total government fee cost : $1,200....Add to that transportation fees, medical exam fees, etc.

 

Differences in Joint Sponsorship Requirements Between Fiancé and Marriage-Based Visas

If you can’t meet the poverty guidelines requirements at all—not even at the 100% level—your most likely next step is to look for a joint sponsor, as described in Strategies When an Immigrant's Sponsor's Income and Assets Are Too Low.

Although the sponsorship forms that you must sign are both called “Affidavit of Support,” the two do not have the same legal effect.

When you sign the affidavit of support form for a spouse (Form I-864), your responsibility to support your spouse or repay the U.S. government for any means-based public assistance that he or she receives is a serious, legally binding one. In fact, it lasts until your spouse becomes a U.S. citizen, has accomplished 40 work quarters credited toward Social Security, dies, or permanently leaves the United States. Your obligation continues even if you and spouse later get divorced.

When you sign the affidavit of support form required for fiancés (Form I-134), you are agreeing to sponsor the fiancé for a more limited period of time, and the form is not considered legally binding on you—in other words, even if you failed to provide this support, no one could sue you to force your compliance.

This difference is important, because the U.S. consulate has discretion about whether to recognize a joint sponsor who signs Form I-134 in connection with a K-1 fiancé visa. Practice has shown that consulates, knowing that a signature on Form I-134 has almost no legal weight, often deny this recognition. That leaves the fiancé ineligible for the visa.

What’s more, the typically lengthy decision making process at the consulate means that your fiancé’s case could be in process for a total time of more than a year before you find out that the K-1 fiancé application was denied due to your low income level.

Taking all of the above factors into account, most low-income couples find that the K-1 is the more difficult visa to obtain with low income.

One strategy you might want to consider is to choose the marriage-based visa, but still have a big wedding in the United States. This is still legally possible. You have the option of first getting legally married in the immigrant’s home country, perhaps in a short civil ceremony, and then having a big wedding ceremony in the U.S., at which time you can celebrate with friends after the immigration process is complete.

 

Edit:  I found the above on a web site.  I think it contains some good information.

 

Yeah but i need to make more money yearly for the cr1 visa and my father doesnt make enough to be a joint sponcer...

But if we do the k1 we could have him co sponcer and see what they say about it. Thats looking like my only choice right now

What do u think?

[Crazy Cat 42,626]

14 minutes ago, Corey high said:

Yeah but i need to make more money yearly for the cr1 visa and my father doesnt make enough to be a joint sponcer...

But if we do the k1 we could have him co sponcer and see what they say about it. Thats looking like my only choice right now

What do u think?

Fair enough.....But just remember that, as @ geowrian  said, you are going to have to submit another financial support document (I-864) when your wife files for Adjustment of Status soon after marriage.  Only you can know what is the right decision for you and your fiance.  I was just giving you additional information.  Good luck.....

[BoostFreak12 13]

14 minutes ago, missileman said:

Fair enough.....But just remember that, as @ geowrian  said, you are going to have to submit another financial support document (I-864) when your wife files for Adjustment of Status soon after marriage.  Only you can know what is the right decision for you and your fiance.  I was just giving you additional information.  Good luck.....

Thank you i apprichiate all info. I guess both k1 and cr1 without sponcers costs the same its both 20k for both.

[BoostFreak12 13]

On 2/6/2018 at 5:46 AM, Chris Duffy said:

I was a co sponsor in Philippines so that proves that is wrong.  Philippines has always been a case to case basis on CoSponsors.

 

For about the last two years, The embassy in Manila has not been asking for any support documents relating to work or showing proof of income or tax transcripts.

 

 

So looks like k1 is me and my fiance's best bet. .. You said you were a co-sponcer for a filipina right? Thats whats giving me hope. My father doesnt make enough to joint sponcer for cr1..

 

Howlong did u wait for the visa and for the greencard after the AOS?

THANKS AGAIN FOR ALL THE HELP!

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Thank you sir. I apprichiate it. Im just an average guy that fell inlove with someone accross the world.. Im gonna try to work 2 jobs this year and try the k1 with a co sponcer if i dont make enough...

 

But who was the guy that was saying if i go live in the Philippines with her for a year it would be easy to get her a visa to come here? Beccause asmuch as i jus want her here where ever we are if were together thats home....

 Someone said if i get a better job by the end of the year that would help i dont understand how it would help without 1 year of income from that job. 

[geowrian 22,338]

1 minute ago, Corey high said:

Someone said if i get a better job by the end of the year that would help i dont understand how it would help without 1 year of income from that job. 

What matters is your current income, not how much you made last tax year.

That said, a brand new job (i.e. a few months old) may not be accepted by a CO. But it doesn't need to be a full year of income from that job either. pay stubs and an employment letter would be the primary evidence to show current income for a typical wage earner.

[Chris Duffy 1,257]

7 hours ago, Corey high said:

Thank you sir. I apprichiate it. Im just an average guy that fell inlove with someone accross the world.. Im gonna try to work 2 jobs this year and try the k1 with a co sponcer if i dont make enough...

 

But who was the guy that was saying if i go live in the Philippines with her for a year it would be easy to get her a visa to come here? Beccause asmuch as i jus want her here where ever we are if were together thats home....

 Someone said if i get a better job by the end of the year that would help i dont understand how it would help without 1 year of income from that job. 

I was saying if you do DCF - Direct Consular Filing at the US Embassy in Manila it much faster and I believe cheaper.  I have never done the DCF but this is my impression.

 

You have to be living legally in Philippines, and you must marry there to file the DCF.

 

Whatever you do, Don't go and over stay your 30 day entry visa in Philippines.

 

They will arrest you and put you in jail for a overstay, and a Phiippines jail is not a kind place for an American.

 

 

Edited February 8, 2018 by Chris Duffy

[Chris Duffy 1,257]

7 hours ago, geowrian said:

What matters is your current income, not how much you made last tax year.

That said, a brand new job (i.e. a few months old) may not be accepted by a CO. But it doesn't need to be a full year of income from that job either. pay stubs and an employment letter would be the primary evidence to show current income for a typical wage earner.

Current is the key word here.

 

The way they are doing Interviews in Manila and the recent trend I have been seeing. I am surprised they don't just approve most of them without an Interview.  Only pick a few to do the actual interview.

 

Just make you pay online, and answer a few questions online.

 

Then once the it is time to do the Adjustment of Status in the USA then conduct a interview.

[BoostFreak12 13]

33 minutes ago, Chris Duffy said:

Current is the key word here.

 

The way they are doing Interviews in Manila and the recent trend I have been seeing. I am surprised they don't just approve most of them without an Interview.  Only pick a few to do the actual interview.

 

Just make you pay online, and answer a few questions online.

 

Then once the it is time to do the Adjustment of Status in the USA then conduct a interview.

Very interesting i hope its still that way at the end of the year