Edwin Jackson, Indianapolis Colts linebacker, was killed by an illegal immigrant, police say

[Boiler 46,072]

I see quite a few ToS issues, my Bible should be yours.

[bcking 3,157]

3 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

No offense my friend, but you cannot speak for another.  Let’s let Steel clarify, eh?

I qualified it. I said "I believe".

 

I could be wrong.

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4 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I see quite a few ToS issues, my Bible should be yours.

I'm only asking you to make your point. You were being vague. You continue to avoid making your point.

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[charmander 692]

He was arrested last year for driving without a license. 

http://wishtv.com/2018/02/05/suspect-in-death-of-colts-player-uber-driver-had-been-deported-twice/

 

I thought IN had strict laws. If they fingerprinted him, they could have found he was deported twice before, no?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

14 hours ago, charmander said:

He was arrested last year for driving without a license. 

http://wishtv.com/2018/02/05/suspect-in-death-of-colts-player-uber-driver-had-been-deported-twice/

 

I thought IN had strict laws. If they fingerprinted him, they could have found he was deported twice before, no?

And even if they did, under a “law” enacted by Obama, that alone would not allow ICE to be alerted to deport him again.

[smilesammich 10,727]

39 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

And even if they did, under a “law” enacted by Obama, that alone would not allow ICE to be alerted to deport him again.

what "law" is that?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

10 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

what "law" is that?

Obama put into effect a memo in late 2012 that increased the requirements for turning over arrested illegals to ICE.  So being arrested, and having your name pop up as an illegal alien, even with prior crimes, was not enough to get reported to ICE.  In 2013, deportations dropped by virtue of this ruling.

 

I posted quite a bit about this in a thread late last year.  Don’t have the links handy today, but they are here on CEHST if you wish to review.

 

 

 

 

This isn’t the memo I cited previously, but it demonstrates the requirements to notify ICE if an illegal is apprehended for a crime.  

 

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, IDWAF said:

Obama put into effect a memo in late 2012 that increased the requirements for turning over arrested illegals to ICE.  So being arrested, and having your name pop up as an illegal alien, even with prior crimes, was not enough to get reported to ICE.  In 2013, deportations dropped by virtue of this ruling.

 

I posted quite a bit about this in a thread late last year.  Don’t have the links handy today, but they are here on CEHST if you wish to review.

 

 

 

 

This isn’t the memo I cited previously, but it demonstrates the requirements to notify ICE if an illegal is apprehended for a crime.  

 

so you can't tell me what 'law' was inacted by the previous deporter in chief?

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9 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

 

 

Your attachment didn't seem to work. At least not for me.

[charmander 692]

1 hour ago, IDWAF said:

And even if they did, under a “law” enacted by Obama, that alone would not allow ICE to be alerted to deport him again.

Shouldn't his arrest in March 2017 be treated under Trump's Jan 2017 executive order?

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-enhancing-public-safety-interior-united-states/

 

As far as I know IN does not have any sanctuary city either.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 hours ago, smilesammich said:

so you can't tell me what 'law' was inacted by the previous deporter in chief?

I put “law” into quotes because it was about as legal as the DACA end run.  He just signed both into being.

 

But due to the more stringent requirements he put out about ICE being notified when an illegal got picked up for something, many illegals are getting arrested then let go vs. being deported since late 2012.  Just look at the declining trend above.  Prior to that graph, the numbers of deportations rose nearly every year for a decade.

[smilesammich 10,727]

3 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

I put “law” into quotes because it was about as legal as the DACA end run.  He just signed both into being.

 

But due to the more stringent requirements he put out about ICE being notified when an illegal got picked up for something, many illegals are getting arrested then let go vs. being deported since late 2012.  Just look at the declining trend above.  Prior to that graph, the numbers of deportations rose nearly every year for a decade.

OH MY GOD. OBAMA JUST SIGNED STUFF INTO BEING?!?! 

 

not to be picky, but i don't care for CIS. i'd rather know the illegal 'law' that you're referring to.

The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is a non-profit research organization "that favors far lower immigration numbers and produces research to further those views."[3] Founded in 1985 as a spin-off from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR),[4] the center's self-described mission is to provide immigration policymakers, the academic community, news media, and concerned citizens with reliable information about the social, economic, environmental, security, and fiscal consequences of legal and illegal immigration into the United States.[5]  Several reports published by the CIS have been disputed by scholars on immigration; a wide range of think tanks; fact-checkers such as PolitiFact, FactCheck.Org, Washington Post, Snopes, CNN and NBC News; and by immigration-research organizations. Critics have accused the CIS of extremist nativist views and for ties to white supremacy groups, which the CIS rejects.

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2 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

OH MY GOD. OBAMA JUST SIGNED STUFF INTO BEING?!?! 

 

not to be picky, but i don't care for CIS. i'd rather know the illegal 'law' that you're referring to.

The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) is a non-profit research organization "that favors far lower immigration numbers and produces research to further those views."[3] Founded in 1985 as a spin-off from the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR),[4] the center's self-described mission is to provide immigration policymakers, the academic community, news media, and concerned citizens with reliable information about the social, economic, environmental, security, and fiscal consequences of legal and illegal immigration into the United States.[5]  Several reports published by the CIS have been disputed by scholars on immigration; a wide range of think tanks; fact-checkers such as PolitiFact, FactCheck.Org, Washington Post, Snopes, CNN and NBC News; and by immigration-research organizations. Critics have accused the CIS of extremist nativist views and for ties to white supremacy groups, which the CIS rejects.

Sorry if you cannot handle the facts.  But yes, he did.  DACA is a prime example.  And he did the deportation memo shortly afterwards.

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1 minute ago, IDWAF said:

Sorry if you cannot handle the facts.  But yes, he did.  DACA is a prime example.  And he did the deportation memo shortly afterwards.

apology accepted. i had no idea you thought daca was an illegal law. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

4 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

apology accepted. i had no idea you thought daca was an illegal law. 

It’s not a law.  It was an end run around Congress, something Obama did on his own, without any approval needed.  Thankfully, Trump is trying to set that mistake right.