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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Philippines
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Posted (edited)

Here's an interesting scenario. My wife's cousin (a Filipino national) arrived in the U.S. via K1 last week. She arrived with two valid visas (K1 and a work visa from her employer in the Philippines). She is scheduled to begin working next week for the same employer (U.S. location). I can only assume she used her K1 visa at her POE. If so, can she also use her work visa legally before filing AOS?

Edited by Gregory&Dyn

MEETING

12 March 2012: Met Dyn at a coffee shop in Kuwait

Summer 2012: I returned home to the U.S. to prepare a way for Dyn

Fall 2014: Dyn returns home to Philippines after seven years in Kuwait

ANNULMENT

February 2014: Engaged while I visited Philippines

March 2014: Officially hired attorney and filed for Dyn's annulment in Bohol, Philippines

December 2015: Bohol District Court issues decision in our favor

December 2015: Judge sends transcript of his decision to OSG for processing

February 05 2016: OSG returned receipt and approval to district court in Bohol. CoF to be issued end of second week in February

February 09 2016: Dyn is presented with the Entry of Judgment and her Certificate of Finality via the local court.

February 15 2016: LCR issues annotated marriage certificate, and necessary documents are forwarded to the NSO / PSA visa LBC

April 19 2016: Received CENOMAR and Annotated MC from PSA via private courier. DONE! COMPLETE! FINISHED! OFFICIAL!

I-129F / K1 VISA APPLICATION PROCESS

April 04 2016: I-129F sent to Texas Lockbox via USPS Priority Mail

April 12 2016: Email from USCIS acceptance confirmation

April 17 2016: Official NOA1 hard copy received

July 12 2016: NOA2 Approval hard copy received

July 14 2016: Post Decision Activity email from USCIS

THE LONG WAIT (USCIS misplaced approved petition)

September 16 2016: NVC received approved I-129F petition and assigns case number

INTERVIEW / MEDICAL PROCESS

October 04 2016: Day 1 of medical at SLEC in Manila

October 05 2016: Psychiatric evaluation off-site due to psychological incapacity annulment (10 hour eval with 800 question profile test)

October 13 2016: CFO Seminar completed successfully and certificate awarded (CFO stamp not issued until visa is presented).

October 20 2016: Return to SLEC complete psychological evaluation with resident psychologist (less than ten minutes)

October 21 2016: Vaccination day at SLEC (medical finally complete)

October 25 2016: Visa interview at USEM in Manila (APPROVED)

HOMECOMING

November 19 2016: Dyn's arrival at POE Dulles IAD in Washington DC

December 01 2016: Married

Posted

No. An individual can only hold one status at a time. If she entered on the K-1 (which I would assume is the case, PLUS it would have been fraud to enter on most other visas with intent to AOS), then she cannot use her work visa as a basis for employment. She needs an EAD to work, which you can file for alongside AOS.

 

Remember that a visa is just a document to request admission into the US. She is already in the US, so it doesn’t hold any value as-is.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Posted

She can only use one. She can't work on the work visa because that is not what she used to enter the US. If she really needs to work then she may have screwed up because now she has to get married then apply for work authorization with her AOS.

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Posted
21 minutes ago, NuestraUnion said:

She can only use one. She can't work on the work visa because that is not what she used to enter the US. If she really needs to work then she may have screwed up because now she has to get married then apply for work authorization with her AOS.

Interesting.  So if she entered on the Work visa and they got married would she have trouble during AOS?  I do know only one visa is valid at a time.  That is a conundrum.  Enter on K-1 and not work until EAD or enter on work visa while knowing that a marriage is imminent and possibly be considered visa fraud?  I assume entering on a work visa with the intent to marry is not a good idea.  Wow.  This is a tough one.

PHILIPPINES ONLY!!!  CFO (Commission on Filipinos Overseas) INFO - Can't leave home without it!

 

PDOS (Pre-Departure Registration and Orientation Seminar) is for ages 20-59.  Peer Counseling is for 13-19 years of age.

It is required to have the visa in their passport for PDOS and Peer Counseling.

 

GCP (Guidance and Counseling Program) is for K-1 Fiancee and IR/CR-1 spouse ONLY. 

 

 

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
Timeline
Posted

Most unlikely this sort of volunteering would be permissible.

Most unlikely this sort of volunteering would be permissible.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Posted
2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Most unlikely this sort of volunteering would be permissible.

Most unlikely this sort of volunteering would be permissible.

Good point.  Best to wait for EAD.  That is about 3 months I believe.

PHILIPPINES ONLY!!!  CFO (Commission on Filipinos Overseas) INFO - Can't leave home without it!

 

PDOS (Pre-Departure Registration and Orientation Seminar) is for ages 20-59.  Peer Counseling is for 13-19 years of age.

It is required to have the visa in their passport for PDOS and Peer Counseling.

 

GCP (Guidance and Counseling Program) is for K-1 Fiancee and IR/CR-1 spouse ONLY. 

 

 

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Posted
16 minutes ago, John & Rose said:

Interesting.  So if she entered on the Work visa and they got married would she have trouble during AOS?  I do know only one visa is valid at a time.  That is a conundrum.  Enter on K-1 and not work until EAD or enter on work visa while knowing that a marriage is imminent and possibly be considered visa fraud?  I assume entering on a work visa with the intent to marry is not a good idea.  Wow.  This is a tough one.

If she entered on the work visa then planning to AOS on that trip would have been fraud. I’m assuming the work visa is not dual intent, since that would have made pursuing the K-1 pointless.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

Posted
1 minute ago, geowrian said:

If she entered on the work visa then planning to AOS on that trip would have been fraud. I’m assuming the work visa is not dual intent, since that would have made pursuing the K-1 pointless.

That is an interesting scenario.  Her company got her a work visa and expects her to work which she cannot legally do since she entered on a fiancee visa.  There are so many legal and ethical issues in this.

PHILIPPINES ONLY!!!  CFO (Commission on Filipinos Overseas) INFO - Can't leave home without it!

 

PDOS (Pre-Departure Registration and Orientation Seminar) is for ages 20-59.  Peer Counseling is for 13-19 years of age.

It is required to have the visa in their passport for PDOS and Peer Counseling.

 

GCP (Guidance and Counseling Program) is for K-1 Fiancee and IR/CR-1 spouse ONLY. 

 

 

IMG_5168.jpeg

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Jamaica
Timeline
Posted

I wonder why she is able to have both visas in the first place...I stand to be corrected, shouldn't the CO at the consulate cancel or void the work visa since the K1 visa supersedes the work visa (assuming that she got the K1 visa after the work visa) and knowing that she will be required to AOS and EAD to be able to work? Perhaps its an oversight thing from the onset on the CO part?

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Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
Timeline
Posted
3 minutes ago, Binna said:

I wonder why she is able to have both visas in the first place...I stand to be corrected, shouldn't the CO at the consulate cancel or void the work visa since the K1 visa supersedes the work visa (assuming that she got the K1 visa after the work visa) and knowing that she will be required to AOS and EAD to be able to work? Perhaps its an oversight thing from the onset on the CO part?

You can have multiple visa's

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Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Canada
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Posted
1 hour ago, Binna said:

I wonder why she is able to have both visas in the first place...I stand to be corrected, shouldn't the CO at the consulate cancel or void the work visa since the K1 visa supersedes the work visa (assuming that she got the K1 visa after the work visa) and knowing that she will be required to AOS and EAD to be able to work? Perhaps its an oversight thing from the onset on the CO part?

Yes, holding more than one at a time is permitted. It is a bit of SOP for a CO to cancel other non-immigrant visas when they issue a K-1, but not a requirement.

Timelines:

ROC:

Spoiler

7/27/20: Sent forms to Dallas lockbox, 7/30/20: Received by USCIS, 8/10 NOA1 electronic notification received, 8/1/ NOA1 hard copy received

AOS:

Spoiler

AOS (I-485 + I-131 + I-765):

9/25/17: sent forms to Chicago, 9/27/17: received by USCIS, 10/4/17: NOA1 electronic notification received, 10/10/17: NOA1 hard copy received. Social Security card being issued in married name (3rd attempt!)

10/14/17: Biometrics appointment notice received, 10/25/17: Biometrics

1/2/18: EAD + AP approved (no website update), 1/5/18: EAD + AP mailed, 1/8/18: EAD + AP approval notice hardcopies received, 1/10/18: EAD + AP received

9/5/18: Interview scheduled notice, 10/17/18: Interview

10/24/18: Green card produced notice, 10/25/18: Formal approval, 10/31/18: Green card received

K-1:

Spoiler

I-129F

12/1/16: sent, 12/14/16: NOA1 hard copy received, 3/10/17: RFE (IMB verification), 3/22/17: RFE response received

3/24/17: Approved! , 3/30/17: NOA2 hard copy received

 

NVC

4/6/2017: Received, 4/12/2017: Sent to Riyadh embassy, 4/16/2017: Case received at Riyadh embassy, 4/21/2017: Request case transfer to Manila, approved 4/24/2017

 

K-1

5/1/2017: Case received by Manila (1 week embassy transfer??? Lucky~)

7/13/2017: Interview: APPROVED!!!

7/19/2017: Visa in hand

8/15/2017: POE

 

 
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