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   Then you can call it out as fake?  It's been posted from different sites over the last year. 

5 minutes ago, IDWAF said:

I hate Trump.  I don't need proof that he lies more than any other politician. 

 

That is all some people need.  Saw it with Obama, seeing it with Trump.

 

   You shouldn't hate him. Hate is not good for you. You may not require proof of the extent of his lies, but proof is there if you need it. It's been posted several times over the last year.

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It was an awesome speech. The kicker was the democrats all sat there pouting. Plus they got a white guy with mega privilege do the response. The only thing that could have been better is if a couple o

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so you're saying it only bothers you when family members are elected into office, but not when they're appointed by other family. got it.

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It is hard to avoid politics families. The first one usually rises on his own but rest follows. Children goes to top notch schools, marriages with other wealthy families, use networks offered by their

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Trump lies far more than any politician. It's a false equivalence to say "well all politicians lie" because Trump has taken the lying to a whole new level. He lies on average five times a day. Liar in Chief.

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1 hour ago, IDWAF said:

I hate Trump.  I don't need proof that he lies more than any other politician. 

 

That is all some people need.  Saw it with Obama, seeing it with Trump.

And he eats two scoops of ICE Cream, is Racist and block gold events with Trucks

 

His wife wore white to get back at him for doing a porn star

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2 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

And he eats two scoops of ICE Cream, is Racist and block gold events with Trucks

 

His wife wore white to get back at him for doing a porn star

She wears high heels, too!  I mean, what kind of WOMAN wears high heels these days?!?  

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7 hours ago, smilesammich said:

yes, trump lies more than pelosi or schumer. 

HashaNah that made my night thank you.

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8 hours ago, JimandChristy said:

Trump lies far more than any politician. It's a false equivalence to say "well all politicians lie" because Trump has taken the lying to a whole new level. He lies on average five times a day. Liar in Chief.

 

    His team has stuck with the strategy of discrediting the media as fake news, undermining confidence so that he can get away with telling as many lies as he wants. Anyone who knows their history would know who's far right playbook that came from. 

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On ‎2‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 7:51 AM, bcking said:

I'm the 5th Doctor in my father's family.

Presumably, great-granddad has passed away.  If the others were all alive and practicing medicine together, this dialogue might occur:

 

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5 minutes ago, TBoneTX said:

Presumably, great-granddad has passed away.  If the others were all alive and practicing medicine together, this dialogue might occur:

 

[phone rings]

"Office of Drs. King, King, King, & King -- how may I help you?"

"Dr. King, please."

"Sorry; he's in clinic."

"Dr. King, please."

"Sorry; he's in conference."

"Dr. King, please."

"Sorry; he's on vacation."

"Dr. King, please."

"Speaking."

There was a time when I considered following in my father's "footsteps" for his specialty. In part because he basically said I could have had a job waiting for me after training. 

 

It would have been a bit of that... "Paging Dr. King" "Which one?" "Does it matter?"

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Or, "you take that one!"  "No, you take it."  Rather a high-class problem. :) 

Even worse if you were named Sr., Jr., III, and IV.

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10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

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04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

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05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

06-30-2008 = Stokes Interrogations w/Ecuadorian (not USC); "wait 2 weeks; we'll mail her."

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3 minutes ago, bcking said:

I considered following in my father's "footsteps" for his specialty.

Podiatry, by all indications? :lol: 

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09-28-2007 = NOA1, 23 days after their 45-day promise to send it (grrrr).

10-20 & 11-14-2007 = Phoned ImmOffs; "still pending."

12-11-2007 = 180 days; file is "between workstations, may be early Jan."; touches 12/11 & 12/12.

12-18-2007 = Call; file is with Division 9 ofcr. (bckgrnd check); e-prompt to shake it; touch.

12-19-2007 = NOA2 by e-mail & web, dated 12-18-07 (187 days; 201 per VJ); in mail 12/24/07.

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04-29-2008 = Fiancee's 4-min. consular interview, 8:30 a.m.; much evidence brought but not allowed to be presented (consul: "More proof! Second interview! Bring your fiance!").

05-05-2008 = Infuriating $12 call to non-English-speaking consulate appointment-setter.

05-06-2008 = Better $12 call to English-speaker; "joint" interview date 6/30/08 (my selection).

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19 hours ago, JimandChristy said:

Trump lies far more than any politician. It's a false equivalence to say "well all politicians lie" because Trump has taken the lying to a whole new level. He lies on average five times a day. Liar in Chief.

Just like I asked Val, where is your comparative proof?   

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7 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Just like I asked Val, where is your comparative proof?   

http://time.com/5084420/donald-trump-lies-claims-fact-checks/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/11/14/president-trump-has-made-1628-false-or-misleading-claims-over-298-days/?utm_term=.d3e6d108f001

 

of course, you won't accept any of this as evidence, because you think 'all politicians lie' so there's no point to making note of the fact that we have a liar in chief. five a day, best average ever.

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http://time.com/5084420/donald-trump-lies-claims-fact-checks/

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/11/14/president-trump-has-made-1628-false-or-misleading-claims-over-298-days/?utm_term=.d3e6d108f001

 

of course, you won't accept any of this as evidence, because you think 'all politicians lie' so there's no point to making note of the fact that we have a liar in chief. five a day, best average ever.

I never said Trump did not lie.  I was asking for a comparison of his level of lying compared with someone like Pelosi or Schumer, or McConnell for that matter.  Your assertion along with others is the Trump has taken political lying to a new level.  Where is your proof that he lies more then these others.  Where is your proof that his lying is more than any other career politican?

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1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

I never said Trump did not lie.  I was asking for a comparison of his level of lying compared with someone like Pelosi or Schumer, or McConnell for that matter.  Your assertion along with others is the Trump has taken political lying to a new level.  Where is your proof that he lies more then these others.  Where is your proof that his lying is more than any other career politican?

Weird that you could even compare Trump with those consummate lyers.

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