AP FACT CHECK: Trump's speech doesn't skimp on exaggerations

[bcking 3,157]

12 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Did Trump come from a political dynasty?

I'm pretty sure everyone here would agree the answer would be no.

 

His point was that political dynasties are bad, but financial/wealth dynasties are okay?

 

When does one become the other? His daughter and her husband are in unappointed positions of power, with no experience to justified their appointments. Is that okay? I'd say it's worse. Does it become a problem when/if they run for an elected office? Is just one family member following in the politician's footsteps a problem, or is it multiple?

 

It's sort of funny because in some professions a "dynasty" is seen as a perfectly fine thing. I'm the 5th Doctor in my father's family. My great grandfather cared for similar patients in the early 20th century. I talk about that with pride, and most people see it as either meaningless, or a nice compliment to who am I as a person and physician. Absolutely my success going to medical school and beyond was in part due to my family's history (I had more financial support, more opportunities, I had mentors at Universities that knew my father). Was that a bad thing?

 

I don't actually know the answer to that question to be honest.

[smilesammich 10,727]

12 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Did Trump come from a political dynasty?

the trump dynasty is more aaron spelling than duerte. but if i had to guess, trump wishes..

[eieio 1,594]

Trump is so far from a political dynasty its not even debatable.  Trump and his family are once in a lifetime national treasures that we are blessed to have. 

[Boiler 45,516]

In times like this what we need is a community organiser to lead us.

 

And a nice Sausage sandwich.

[bcking 3,157]

1 hour ago, Boiler said:

In times like this what we need is a community organiser to lead us.

 

And a nice Sausage sandwich.

If people so against "dynasties" wouldn't they prefer someone who came from relatively humble beginnings, attended Harvard on his own merits, was President of the Harvard Law Review (again without a family dynasty to back him up), taught constitutional law, served three terms in a State Senate and then 1 term in the US Senate?

 

It seems crazy to act like having "community organiser" on the CV is a bad thing, after we talk about how much we dislike political dynasties holding power.

 

If we don't like the "self-made" story, and we don't like the "rich political family" story....what do we prefer? Somehow the "rich but not political" family is the perfect middle ground? 

Edited February 1, 2018 by bcking

[Dashinka 24,499]

16 minutes ago, bcking said:

If people so against "dynasties" wouldn't they prefer someone who came from relatively humble beginnings, attended Harvard on his own merits, was President of the Harvard Law Review (again without a family dynasty to back him up), taught constitutional law, served three terms in a State Senate and then 1 term in the US Senate?

 

It seems crazy to act like having "community organiser" on the CV is a bad thing, after we talk about how much we dislike political dynasties holding power.

 

If we don't like the "self-made" story, and we don't like the "rich political family" story....what do we prefer? Somehow the "rich but not political" family is the perfect middle ground? 

As long as that person wasn't a socialist, sure.

[TBoneTX 45,291]

3 hours ago, bcking said:

my success going to medical school and beyond was in part due to my family's history

This gives new meaning to the term "family medical history," it strikes me.

1 hour ago, Boiler said:

a nice Sausage sandwich.

I have dibs on my BLT, with triple B and hold the L & T.  In fact, also hold the bread.

(Not holding my breadth about possibilities here)

[smilesammich 10,727]

wasn't sure if i should add this to the trump lies thread or the fact check of his lie filled speech thread. i'll just leave it here.

 

Trump Claims His SOTU Had The Highest Ratings In History. It Didn't.

Edited February 1, 2018 by smilesammich

[Dashinka 24,499]

6 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

wasn't sure if i should add this to the trump lies thread or the fact check of his lie filled speech thread. i'll just leave it here.

 

Trump Claims His SOTU Had The Highest Ratings In History. It Didn't.

Who cares?

 

 

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

Who cares?

 

 

who cares that trump lies more than he tells the truth? reasonable adults.

[Dashinka 24,499]

5 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

who cares that trump lies more than he tells the truth? reasonable adults.

Who cares that a politician lies?  Don't they all lie?  Sure, you want to put some level of degree onto Trump, but honestly, can you say he lies any more than Pelosi or Schumer?

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

Who cares that a politician lies?  Don't they all lie?  Sure, you want to put some level of degree onto Trump, but honestly, can you say he lies any more than Pelosi or Schumer?

yes, trump lies more than pelosi or schumer. 

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4 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

yes, trump lies more than pelosi or schumer. 

Proof?

[smilesammich 10,727]

1 minute ago, Bill & Katya said:

Proof?

trump's words are the proof. plenty of journalists are keeping track of his lies. look it up if you want proof. maybe start looking into proof behind trump's false assertions, no? no point cause nobody tells the truth? lol.

 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

I hate Trump.  I don't need proof that he lies more than any other politician. 

 

That is all some people need.  Saw it with Obama, seeing it with Trump.