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ASBURY PARK, N.J. — Harry Pangemanan was honored a week ago by the Borough of Highland Park for rebuilding hundreds of homes along the Jersey Shore destroyed by Superstorm Sandy. On Thursday, the Indonesian national and father of two met the governor.

It wasn't to receive more accolades. New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy went to the Reformed Church of Highland Park to lend his high-profile support to Pangemanan, an unauthorized immigrant, as he was entering sanctuary to escape deportation.

"Many of the houses that he worked on, in the lawn of the homes he was working on were big Donald Trump signs and yet he was still rebuilding those homes to get Jersey families back inside," the Rev. Seth Kaper-Dale of the Reformed Church of Highland Park, an immigrant rights advocate, told Murphy.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents swooped into Central New Jersey around 8 a.m. Thursday morning and arrested two Indonesians, Gunawan Liem of Piscataway and Roby Sanger of Metuchen, said Kaper-Dale, who also runs the Deportation and Immigration Response Equipo that tries to intervene in ICE raids.

Pangemanan narrowly escaped. After eluding ICE agents outside his Highland Park home, he was escorted to the church, where he joined three other Indonesian Christians in sanctuary.

Murphy, who pledged during the gubernatorial campaign to protect unauthorized immigrants in New Jersey, said he raced to the church after learning of the ICE activity.

"I'm going to go back, go to Trenton right now and meet with my team and try to think through," Murphy told reporters. "This is extraordinary stuff we're talking about. These are wonderful people, and it's almost indescribable."

Inside the church, Pangemanan led Murphy, U.S. Rep. Frank Pallone, D-N.J., and other elected officials through an Indonesian prayer.

"I'm thinking of you guys," Pangemanan told supporters in the church. "Nothing more has shown me that I belong here in this community."

Thursday's drama comes as President Trump and Republicans and Democrats in Congress step up negotiations over immigration policy.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/01/25/n-j-gov-backs-immigrant-targeted-deporation/1068063001/

 

imo, this is why every immigration case needs to be looked at on an individual basis. there's nothing beneficial in deporting decent, hardworking people.

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28 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/01/25/n-j-gov-backs-immigrant-targeted-deporation/1068063001/

 

imo, this is why every immigration case needs to be looked at on an individual basis. there's nothing beneficial in deporting decent, hardworking people.

They did look at him on a individual basis.

 

The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 requires that potential asylees apply for protections within a year of entering the country. Many local Indonesians said they were not aware of the requirement until much later.

 

 

Pangemanan, an ethnic Chinese Christian from Indonesia, fled his home country to escape religious persecution in the Muslim-majority nation.
Nearly a decade ago, Pangemanan spent 68 days at Elizabeth Detention Center before church members and advocates helped secure his release.
In 2012, during the Obama administration, he entered sanctuary in the same church, fearing ICE agents would deport him. He was among nine Indonesian Christians holed up in the church at the time.
ICE relented and gave him a temporary reprieve from deportation, known as a "stay of removal," and a work permit.
“I told her, 'Please walk to the school because I do not trust the car behind us.'”
Harry Pangemanan
Under Trump, however, Pangemanan and dozens of other Indonesian Christians in Central New Jersey and beyond once again face deportation.
Indonesian Christians without legal status could have qualified for asylum when they first arrived in the United States, but some came here shortly before or after the rules surrounding asylum petitions changed.
The Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act of 1996 requires that potential asylees apply for protections within a year of entering the country. Many local Indonesians said they were not aware of the requirement until much later.
Some who arrived before the 1996 law took effect, such as Tasik, say they wanted to gain legal status but could not afford to do so.

Why was he in the detention center a decade ago?

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It seems like this guy has been a regular of the detention facility and ICE, all you have to do is good his name and stuff comes up from over 8 years ago.

 

 

The couple's story of how they came to arrive in America is not a straightforward, emblematic asylum case. Harry, 41, came to the US on a tourist visa in 1995. He got a social security number, a driver's licence and a job. He knowingly overstayed his visa. He just wanted to live in America.

 

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/ipad/american-story-new-lives-old-fears/news-story/27852d2c2ef320758bd9f165dcb884e5

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Headline horribly misleading. Have asked it be altered to reflect the truth.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Just now, smilesammich said:

it's the headline of the article.

Exactly

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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First word?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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Just now, Boiler said:

First word?

the definition of immigrant

: one that immigrates: such as

a : a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence
b : a plant or animal that becomes established in an area where it was previously unknown

 

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Y

2 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

the definition of immigrant

: one that immigrates: such as

a : a person who comes to a country to take up permanent residence
b : a plant or animal that becomes established in an area where it was previously unknown

 

Yup

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

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1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Headline horribly misleading. Have asked it be altered to reflect the truth.

 

6 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

nothing about the headline is false.

Yes it is false because it should read "Illegal Immigrant".

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Just now, cyberfx1024 said:

 

Yes it is false because it should read "Illegal Immigrant".

take it up with usa today. the man's contributions to his community more than excuse how he got here, in my opinion.

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Also you should read this as well. He has basically been fighting deportation for almost 12 years now and everytime he is about to be deported he runs to a church to hide. The link below is from 2011 when he tried to sue the US AG to fight deportation.

 

 

https://digitalcommons.law.villanova.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.bing.com/&httpsredir=1&article=2971&context=thirdcircuit_2011

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Just now, cyberfx1024 said:

Also you should read this as well. He has basically been fighting deportation for almost 12 years now and everytime he is about to be deported he runs to a church to hide. The link below is from 2011 when he tried to sue the US AG to fight deportation.

 

 

https://digitalcommons.law.villanova.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.bing.com/&httpsredir=1&article=2971&context=thirdcircuit_2011

well, i read the article that i posted, which detailed that information. he's been trying to gain legal status since overstaying his visa - which we all know, this play only works for some people.

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3 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

well, i read the article that i posted, which detailed that information. he's been trying to gain legal status since overstaying his visa - which we all know, this play only works for some people.

So you knew it was a fake headline?

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

 

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