The Daily Trump wins again thread

[luckytxn 2,264]

15 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Sorry, that would not be acceptable to the Mods.

 

I can think of numerous examples where history has been written by those who participated and has left a very misleading story, Halder about WW2 Germany especially on the Eastern Front comes to mind.

I know the KKK and helped shut them down and put several in prison and I also know their history very well. I also know the Democratic party real well also. I do know that many of their followers will believe anything they are told to believe in.

[laylalex 7,284]

40 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Sorry, that would not be acceptable to the Mods.

Okay, I will just imagine that it has something to do with boobies, since that's probably the nicest of all the hashed out words we're not allowed to say, and I'm in a holiday mood and willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. 

 

Also, it's kind of on topic, because I'm pretty sure Trump likes boobies, too.

[Boiler 45,516]

9 minutes ago, laylalex said:

Okay, I will just imagine that it has something to do with boobies, since that's probably the nicest of all the hashed out words we're not allowed to say, and I'm in a holiday mood and willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. 

 

Also, it's kind of on topic, because I'm pretty sure Trump likes boobies, too.

Actually no, the ToS is a wonderful thing but beyond us mere mortals. For example a common English term for ciggies gets the treatment. It can be difficult for those not schooled in its ways to comprehend.

[Boiler 45,516]

39 minutes ago, luckytxn said:

I know the KKK and helped shut them down and put several in prison and I also know their history very well. I also know the Democratic party real well also. I do know that many of their followers will believe anything they are told to believe in.

I have difficulty believing anything a politician says.

 

However if we take the position you should does that mean certain parties would take the Trump diaries whatever as gospel if they were ever published?

[luckytxn 2,264]

5 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I have difficulty believing anything a politician says.

 

However if we take the position you should does that mean certain parties would take the Trump diaries whatever as gospel if they were ever published?

If you believe anything a politician says then that would make you an imbecile. What are the Trump diaries and why are they even relevant to any of this?

[Boiler 45,516]

14 minutes ago, luckytxn said:

If you believe anything a politician says then that would make you an imbecile. What are the Trump diaries and why are they even relevant to any of this?

There seems a view that I do not share that prime sources are to be believed.

[Dashinka 24,499]

7 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   I'm not posting anything I made up in this thread. What happened during the reconstruction and the southern strategy are well established historical fact, but whatever floats your boat.

Doesn’t that depend on which history book one might be reading?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

Doesn’t that depend on which history book one might be reading?

Christopher Columbus discovered America.

 

No he didn't. plus he was a murderer and rapist.

 

See how easily history can be manipulated?  In just one generation, too.

[Nature Boy 2.0 8,370]

9 hours ago, luckytxn said:

I know the KKK and helped shut them down and put several in prison and I also know their history very well. I also know the Democratic party real well also. I do know that many of their followers will believe anything they are told to believe in.

I was talking to two of my black buddies at work. One of thems church had jusy hosted its annual Thanksgiving food drive. Biggest turnout ever.

 

Of course they said this is proof postive that Trumps econmy is a big lie .  

[Steeleballz 7,550]

4 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

Doesn’t that depend on which history book one might be reading?

 

  Sure it does. That is what I said. Just like some people believe the world is flat. 

 

  So are you saying the data that shows southern conservatives voted democrat in the past has been altered? 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

9 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Sure it does. That is what I said. Just like some people believe the world is flat. 

 

  So are you saying the data that shows southern conservatives voted democrat in the past has been altered? 

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The Republican Party, often called the GOP (short for “Grand Old Party”) is one of two major political parties in the United States. Founded in 1854 as a coalition opposing the extension of slavery into Western territories, the Republican Party fought to protect the rights of African Americans after the Civil War. Today’s GOP is generally socially conservative, and favors smaller government, less regulation, lower taxes and less federal intervention in the economy.  

 

 

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In the 1850s, the issue of slavery—and its extension into new territories and states joining the Union—ripped apart these political coalitions. During this volatile period, new political parties briefly surfaced, including the Free Soil and the American (Know-Nothing) parties.

 

In 1854, opposition to the Kansas-Nebraska Act, which would permit slavery in new U.S. territories by popular referendum, drove an antislavery coalition of Whigs, Free-Soilers, Americans and disgruntled Democrats to found the new Republican Party, which held its first meeting in Ripon, Wisconsin that May. Two months later, a larger group met in Jackson, Michigan, to choose the party’s first candidates for statewide office.

 

The Republican goal was not to abolish slavery in the South right away, but rather to prevent its westward expansion, which they feared would lead to the domination of slaveholding interests in national politics.

 

 

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Over the course of the Civil War, Lincoln and other Republicans began to see the abolition of slavery as a strategic move to help them win the war. Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863, and by war’s end, the Republican majority in Congress would spearhead the passage of the 13th Amendment, which abolished slavery.

 

Frustrated by the inaction of Lincoln’s Democratic successor, Andrew Johnson, as well as the treatment of freed blacks in former Confederate states during the Reconstruction era, Radical Republicans in Congress passed legislation protecting the rights of blacks, including civil rights and voting rights (for black men).

 

https://www.history.com/topics/us-politics/republican-party

 

Why does America get so much flack about slavery, when it was all because of Britain?

Edited November 28, 2019 by ALFKAD

[Steeleballz 7,550]

3 hours ago, ALFKAD said:

Christopher Columbus discovered America.

 

No he didn't. plus he was a murderer and rapist.

 

See how easily history can be manipulated?  In just one generation, too.

 

   The historical data did not change. Columbus was officially removed as governor of Hispaniola in 1498 by the crown due to the brutal and deplorable conditions there. Bartolome de las Casas' well known biographical account of Columbus was published in 1542.

 

 The primary source records always existed. The question is why it changed at some point, especially in this country, to view him as a hero. He was not viewed that way in his own time. 

[Boiler 45,516]

48 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   The historical data did not change. Columbus was officially removed as governor of Hispaniola in 1498 by the crown due to the brutal and deplorable conditions there. Bartolome de las Casas' well known biographical account of Columbus was published in 1542.

 

 The primary source records always existed. The question is why it changed at some point, especially in this country, to view him as a hero. He was not viewed that way in his own time. 

Politics, like everything else. I could list numerous examples.

[Dashinka 24,499]

2 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  Sure it does. That is what I said. Just like some people believe the world is flat. 

 

  So are you saying the data that shows southern conservatives voted democrat in the past has been altered? 

Not all the Southern Democrats changed parties, and of course we still had Sheets Byrd on the a Democrat side for quite some time.

[Burnt Reynolds 5,058]

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

Not all the Southern Democrats changed parties, and of course we still had Sheets Byrd on the a Democrat side for quite some time.

 

"The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia" --KKK recruiter (and later Senator) Robert Byrd

 

The importance of this isn't merely that he was a Democrat and KKK operative. It was that the people who find things in others' pasts to try and bury them with, these people conveniently excused Byrd's past, saying he left and denounced them, and of course, sided with them politically. And that's not even the most important part, it's that this quote occurred from a speech years after Byrd said, in the media, and in his own autobiographies (which, funny enough, had changing narratives that Elizabeth Warren would be jealous of), that he had repented and changed his ways.

 

In case one might think that was an anomaly, Byrd not only later opposed the Civil Rights Act decades later, and campaigned against it, he viciously went after poor black communities to target them for ending their welfare programs, but when MLK was assassinated, he said, of the black people rioting in response: "If it requires the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, we should put the troublemakers in their places. Looters should be shot on the spot, swiftly and mercilessly."

 

No doubt he eventually realized his wrongs, and Democrats didn't mind his racism until it became too distracting from their national platform, but clearly, history is distorted to fit a narrative.