Needing guidance towards getting a B2 in Brazil

[K & Gu 42]

Hey all,

 

My fiance and I are already in the process of getting a K1. We've received NOA1 but we've got a bit before getting NOA2.

I've visited him once in Brazil already and we've decided that we'd like him to come to America for a bit to spend some time with myself and my family here.

We submitted the DS-160 and are just waiting for his appointment next month. He already has his passport.

I noticed some applicants from here/Brazil have been rejected from getting the B2 because they didn't have strong ties to home. He is fairly young (under 21) and attends a great University. He has worked before but only for a period of less than a year. He is perfectly fluent in both PT and English. I know that might not provide much in their eyes.

 

For the most part I would be supporting him during his stay. When I applied for my visa to go to Brazil I needed proof of sufficient funds. 

Would an offer letter / pay stub / bank statement work from my own job or would he need his own funds? We put on the application that I would be supporting him / paying for expenses during his stay. 

 

It would suck if it's denied but at least we've got K1 to look forward to if so.

 

Sorry if this has been asked 100 times! 

[menina 50]

He has to apply on his own merits, so saying you will sponsor him won't make a difference. Can he provide a letter from his university showing he needs to be back for classes at a certain point? If he is not currently working, it may be hard to provide strong ties to Brazil especially with the K1 in process. In my opinion, it's worth trying because he might get approved. Does he own any property in Brazil or have bills in his name? That could help show he needs to be back to take care of those responsibilities. Good luck! Hope you get an approval!

[K & Gu 42]

Thanks for your response!

I'll see if he is able to get a letter from his uni.  

Unfortunately the only bill in his name is the internet bill so there isn't much else he is responsible for as far as I know.

 

Thanks for the good wishes 

[Boiler 45,525]

When does he Graduate?

[K & Gu 42]

On 1/25/2018 at 10:59 PM, Boiler said:

When does he Graduate?

Sorry for the very delayed response!

 

He isn't due to graduate until at least 2021. He is there on a scholarship.

[Boiler 45,525]

4 minutes ago, Kaysy&Gustav said:

Sorry for the very delayed response!

 

He isn't due to graduate until at least 2021. He is there on a scholarship.

Now I am totally confused, why are you doing the K1 now?

[K & Gu 42]

5 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Now I am totally confused, why are you doing the K1 now?

We'd rather him continue his education here. My city is great for the major he'd like to pursue - he's just there to stay occupied while he is still living there. Surprisingly his credits will go towards a degree here. Already checked with the applicable university.

Plus, if something should happen, he is already there and can continue it until he finishes it.

[Boiler 45,525]

Ahhh

 

Well if he can afford it great.

 

So anything about his Uni course is irrelevant.

[K & Gu 42]

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Ahhh

 

Well if he can afford it great.

 

So anything about his Uni course is irrelevant.

I suppose it would be irrelevant to his case if worded like that, sure. Just put anything I could think to mention.

[MacUK 983]

On 01/02/2018 at 4:02 AM, K & Gu said:

I suppose it would be irrelevant to his case if worded like that, sure. Just put anything I could think to mention.

That's the harsh bit of this situation, he really has no ties.

You have to put yourself in the position of the interviewing officer who, by law, already presumes that the applicant will abuse their visa.

 

No matter how many "ties" you can think of for him to bring up at the interview the immediate response would be "How does that tie you to Brazil when you're already planning to leave it behind within the next year?"

 

Family - already planning to leave them behind

Education - already planning to continue it in the US

[K & Gu 42]

1 hour ago, MacUK said:

That's the harsh bit of this situation, he really has no ties.

You have to put yourself in the position of the interviewing officer who, by law, already presumes that the applicant will abuse their visa.

 

No matter how many "ties" you can think of for him to bring up at the interview the immediate response would be "How does that tie you to Brazil when you're already planning to leave it behind within the next year?"

 

Family - already planning to leave them behind

Education - already planning to continue it in the US

I definitely understand, he's way too risky to them haha. At least I can freely travel there instead.

[MacUK 983]

1 hour ago, K & Gu said:

I definitely understand, he's way too risky to them haha. At least I can freely travel there instead.

It's the strange and unfortunate the way the US tourist system works (or doesn't work depending on your point of view)

 

It makes it quite difficult for a lot of foreigners to get a tourist visa, but once a "tourist" is in the US they make it very easy to abuse it.

 

[payxibka 10,045]

1 hour ago, K & Gu said:

I definitely understand, he's way too risky to them haha. At least I can freely travel there instead.

Not freely...  Visa is required,  but obviously quite easy to get

[K & Gu 42]

31 minutes ago, MacUK said:

It's the strange and unfortunate the way the US tourist system works (or doesn't work depending on your point of view)

 

It makes it quite difficult for a lot of foreigners to get a tourist visa, but once a "tourist" is in the US they make it very easy to abuse it.

 

I understand completely from their point of view. I can appreciate it at least.  The K1 won’t take much longer at this point so that’s our mistake for being hasty.

 

6 minutes ago, payxibka said:

Not freely...  Visa is required,  but obviously quite easy to get

I have a Visa already, I visited him late last year.  valid for 10 years if I’m not mistaken. Much easier to get on my end!

[SusieQQQ 11,586]

2 hours ago, MacUK said:

It's the strange and unfortunate the way the US tourist system works (or doesn't work depending on your point of view)

 

It makes it quite difficult for a lot of foreigners to get a tourist visa, but once a "tourist" is in the US they make it very easy to abuse it.

 

I see you are from the UK. As someone who has needed visas for both, let me reassure you that a UK visa is way more difficult (in terms of an incredibly time consuming application and piles of supporting documents) and more expensive than a US one. Actually my experience is that the US is actually one of the easier ones to get, for those who have to get visas for many countries (I’ve done schengen too and one or two other places like Russia...) ...as long as you can convince the CO you’ll go back home afterwards.

 

agree that if one is planning to leave one’s home country anyway it’s hard to show ties. A schengen type system where you show your return ticket or ticket out might work better for a case like this, but the flip side - and I’ve seen it happen - is if you get refused the visa, you end up way out of pocket on the air ticket and sometimes on all the reserved accommodation you have been required to show in the application.