What does this mean? Worried!!! [merged threads]

[charmander 692]

Just now, Italian_in_NYC said:

By the way, the Senate (Cotton/Purdue) bill would be effective on Oct 1, 2018 at the very earliest.

It would be interesting to see how it would play out for pending petitions. There are some sibling petitions that are being processed from mid 90s. 

[Italian_in_NYC 259]

1 minute ago, charmander said:

Currently yes, but raise act ending this. the US citizen son/daughter has to show proof that they have arranged health insurance, at no cost to the parent, during parent's stay.

Lol, I can already see the nightmare with the documentation required.

And what kind of plan suffices?

And how do you sign up for health insurance for 5 years?

Personally, I would not have my mom (who's 61, so still relatively young) staying here one minute without being covered (I always bought her travel insurance when she visited, even for a few days) , but that's just me.

[charmander 692]

1 minute ago, Italian_in_NYC said:

Lol, I can already see the nightmare with the documentation required.

And what kind of plan suffices?

And how do you sign up for health insurance for 5 years?

Personally, I would not have my mom (who's 61, so still relatively young) staying here one minute without being covered (I always bought her travel insurance when she visited, even for a few days) , but that's just me.

I dunno man, that's what they put in the bill. End of page 14. https://www.cotton.senate.gov/files/documents/170802_New_RAISE_Act_Bill_Text.pdf

[-Trinity- 513]

24 minutes ago, Boiler said:

You can buy Travel Insurance, but that does not work for those immigrating.

This people are immigrants. I know we had this discussion before but I'm not making this up.

[Italian_in_NYC 259]

4 minutes ago, charmander said:

I dunno man, that's what they put in the bill. End of page 14. https://www.cotton.senate.gov/files/documents/170802_New_RAISE_Act_Bill_Text.pdf

Pg 15... They give a 1-yr grace period for visa (not petition) pending. I think that's fair.

 

EDIT: Nevermind, that's for people already in the US (so under AOS).

Edited January 24, 2018 by Italian_in_NYC

[-Trinity- 513]

24 minutes ago, Italian_in_NYC said:

I spoke yesterday to a friend of mine at the Italian equivalent of the State Dept (she used to work at the Italian Consulate in NYC) and she told me it is totally possible to be covered from Italy at a fraction of the cost (you just have to pay the bills first to get reimbursed). I'll investigate. 

I had the same when I still had my insurance. I had to pay upfront and got reimbursed later. Its defenitly worth looking into it. 

[mustang85635 182]

15 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

and for all we know, they're totally making that up too..

 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/jan/24/donald-trump/donald-trumps-unsubstantiated-claims-about-chain-m/

Politifact is a leftists organization. Never seen any leftists lies exposed there. You dont know what was before the american wife. And even if he sponsored them through i-864 thats bad enough

[charmander 692]

1 minute ago, -Trinity- said:

I had the same when I still had my insurance. I had to pay upfront and got reimbursed later. Its defenitly worth looking into it. 

Although, god save, pay upfront could make you go bankrupt in certain cases.

[Italian_in_NYC 259]

1 minute ago, charmander said:

Although, god save, pay upfront could make you go bankrupt in certain cases.

Financially is a burden, but economically, it makes sense.

You can take a loan from your IRA or 401k, or draw from the HELOC... if that saves me 4 or 5 grands a year

[-Trinity- 513]

1 minute ago, charmander said:

Although, god save, pay upfront could make you go bankrupt in certain cases.

I know, I never go to the ER and I haven't had fever since I was a kid. A year ago I had very high fever and I was freaking out, GC said I had to go to the ER. Without having a clue I did so, I got some meds to bring the fever down and was sent home after 2/3 hours.

 

Couple weeks later I received a total of  $9,000 dollar bills. I thought I was going to have a heart attack. Luckly my insurance was willing to pay although I didn't contact them first.

 

That was a lesson I won't ever forget.

[Iwo_Jima 119]

51 minutes ago, bcking said:

I'm well aware of how Medicaid works.

 

I was asking about a future change. If the concern is the elderly parents becoming a burden, then increase the financial requirement and exclude immigrant parents from our "socialized" healthcare system for the elderly.

 

Allow parents to come as long as they are able to provide their own care financially (or make the petitioner truly responsible).

Congress will never vote for this. It will mean discrimination based on age.

 

I'm well aware of how Medicaid works....................

 

If you are aware how it works, why do you ask questions?

Edited January 24, 2018 by Iwo_Jima

[smilesammich 10,727]

3 minutes ago, mustang85635 said:

Politifact is a leftists organization. Never seen any leftists lies exposed there. You dont know what was before the american wife. And even if he sponsored them through i-864 thats bad enough

so ignore politifact and go with common sense. there's a reason trump/white house can't offer any evidence to back the claim up. but since you're out of the gate ignoring facts (that are easily checked, this is an immigration forum after all) to repeat a lie told by trump to rile up his xenophobic base, and screaming 'leftist' - we're probably done here.

[Italian_in_NYC 259]

2 minutes ago, -Trinity- said:

I know, I never go to the ER and I haven't had fever since I was a kid. A year ago I had very high fever and I was freaking out, GC said I had to go to the ER. Without having a clue I did so, I got some meds to bring the fever down and was sent home after 2/3 hours.

 

Couple weeks later I received a total of  $9,000 dollar bills. I thought I was going to have a heart attack. Luckly my insurance was willing to pay although I didn't contact them first.

 

That was a lesson I won't ever forget.

Those are un-negotiated rates. US health insurances negotiate much much lower.

Anyways, I can tell you that giving birth (natural delivery and no complications whatsoever) in a Manhattan hospital costed my insurance $30k each time. Obviously not a problem for elderly parents, but just to give an idea of the magnitude.

Edited January 24, 2018 by Italian_in_NYC

[Italian_in_NYC 259]

2 minutes ago, Iwo_Jima said:

Congress will never vote for this. It will mean discrimination based on age.

 

I'm well aware of how Medicaid works....................

 

If you are aware how it works, why do you ask questions?

It's not discrimination.

If you read the draft, those permits would be non-immigrant visas (no employment authorized).

[charmander 692]

1 minute ago, -Trinity- said:

I know, I never go to the ER and I haven't had fever since I was a kid. A year ago I had very high fever and I was freaking out, GC said I had to go to the ER. Without having a clue I did so, I got some meds to bring the fever down and was sent home after 2/3 hours.

 

Couple weeks later I received a total of  $9,000 dollar bills. I thought I was going to have a heart attack. Luckly my insurance was willing to pay although I didn't contact them first.

 

That was a lesson I won't ever forget.

But that's the uninsured rate. Most US health insurance has a ~$150 co-pay for ER visits, and it is waived if you're admitted to the hospital. Your insurance probably paid something like that to close the bill.