Evidence suggests a massive scandal is brewing at the FBI

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20 hours ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

That's cool. Feel free to express yourself. 

But I'll reserve my opinion until they actually release some reliable details. 

 

P.s. always blaming the left for the right's shortcoming isn't a valid defense. 

 

So have there been reliable details regarding the whole Russian/Trump collusion narrative?

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14 hours ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Not a theory, have guilty pleas and arraignments surrounding Russia involvement.

Tell me how those guilty pleas relate to Trump/Russian collusion?

14 hours ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

You really have to wait for the conclusion to get your evidence.
Its normal practice for the FBI to disclose very little during an open investigation.
 

Seems there were some in the FBI that weren't doing this.

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25 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

So have there been reliable details regarding the whole Russian/Trump collusion narrative?

that is different 

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55 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Tell me how those guilty pleas relate to Trump/Russian collusion?

Seems there were some in the FBI that weren't doing this.

You asked about the Mueller investigation, collusion is not necessarily the crime Mueller is investigating but in the case of the first guilty plea, it seems that the connection to the Kremlin would be obvious.

Edited January 25, 2018 by Il Mango Dulce

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2 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

You asked about the Mueller investigation, collusion is not necessarily the crime Mueller is investigating but in the case of the first guilty plea, it seems that the connection to the Kremlin would be obvious.

What crime is the Mueller team investigating then?

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2 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

What crime is the Mueller team investigating then?

You expect his team to tell us everything he is investigating before he makes recommendations?  I am too lazy to explain it over and over so Wikicopypasta

 

Since May 2017, a Special Counsel investigation has been led by the current Special Counsel, former FBI Director Robert Mueller, into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections including exploring any links or coordination between Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign and the Russian government. Several members of the Trump campaign and administration have been convicted or indicted as a result of the investigation, including Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos, Rick Gates, and Paul Manafort.

Mueller's investigation subsumed several existing FBI investigations including those involving former campaign chairman Manafort and former National Security Advisor Flynn. In August 2017, Mueller's investigation reportedly expanded to include several lobbying firms, including the Podesta Group. Mueller has assembled a team of attorneys to conduct the investigation into links between Trump associates and Russian officials along with related matters.

On October 30, 2017, Manafort and his business partner Gates surrendered to the FBI on charges brought by Mueller, unrelated to the Trump campaign. That day, his team revealed former Trump campaign adviser Papadopoulos had pleaded guilty on October 5 to making false statements to FBI agents about contacts he had with agents of the Russian government while working for the Trump campaign in 2016, and was cooperating with investigators. On December 1, former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the FBI, and later announced he is cooperating with Mueller's investigation and "working to set things right".^[1]

Edited January 25, 2018 by Il Mango Dulce

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Just now, Il Mango Dulce said:

You expect his team to tell us everything he is investigating before he makes recommendations?  I am too lazy to explain it over and over so Wikicopypasta

 

Since May 2017, a Special Counsel investigation has been led by the current Special Counsel, former FBI Director Robert Mueller, into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections including exploring any links or coordination between Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign and the Russian government. Several members of the Trump campaign and administration have been convicted or indicted as a result of the investigation, including Michael Flynn, George Papadopoulos, Rick Gates, and Paul Manafort.

Mueller's investigation subsumed several existing FBI investigations including those involving former campaign chairman Manafort and former National Security Advisor Flynn. In August 2017, Mueller's investigation reportedly expanded to include several lobbying firms, including the Podesta Group. Mueller has assembled a team of attorneys to conduct the investigation into links between Trump associates and Russian officials along with related matters.

On October 30, 2017, Manafort and his business partner Gates surrendered to the FBI on charges brought by Mueller, unrelated to the Trump campaign. That day, his team revealed former Trump campaign adviser Papadopoulos had pleaded guilty on October 5 to making false statements to FBI agents about contacts he had with agents of the Russian government while working for the Trump campaign in 2016, and was cooperating with investigators. On December 1, former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements" to the FBI, and later announced he is cooperating with Mueller's investigation and "working to set things right".^[1]

Sure, his team does seem to be full of leakers, but that didn't answer my question.  What was the underlying crime that started the entire investigation?

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1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

So have there been reliable details regarding the whole Russian/Trump collusion narrative?

Reliable enough to bring charges. 

But again, we won't know until they conclude their investigation. 

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23 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Sure, his team does seem to be full of leakers, but that didn't answer my question.  What was the underlying crime that started the entire investigation?

That was not your question.

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24 minutes ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

Reliable enough to bring charges. 

But again, we won't know until they conclude their investigation. 

I suppose that it may conclude right before the 2020 election.  I wonder if they will decide what to do before they even interview Trump?

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25 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

That was not your question.

You are right.  I asked how these guilty pleas related to the Russian/Trump narrative?  Didn't answer that one either.

 

Btw, if the proof the FBI mined to show Flynn and the Greek guy were lying was based off FISA warrants that were applied for based on the political propaganda memos written by Steele, could it be fruit from the poisonous tree? 

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29 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I suppose that it may conclude right before the 2020 election.  I wonder if they will decide what to do before they even interview Trump?

Honestly, Trump's best bet is to just to plead the fiff. Nothing good can come out of such an interview. Especially when the defendant is not good with words and probably a bit senile. 

 

 

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

Honestly, Trump's best bet is to just to plead the fiff. Nothing good can come out of such an interview. Especially when the defendant is not good with words and probably a bit senile. 

 

 

 

 

I agree, nothing good can come from anyone talking to the FBI, or in this case Mueller.

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seems like the mess is getting deeper

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/25/fbi-officials-worried-about-being-too-tough-on-hillary-clinton-during-email-investigation-texts-show.html

FBI officials worried about being too tough on Hillary Clinton during email investigation, texts show

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12 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

seems like the mess is getting deeper

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/01/25/fbi-officials-worried-about-being-too-tough-on-hillary-clinton-during-email-investigation-texts-show.html

FBI officials worried about being too tough on Hillary Clinton during email investigation, texts show

Nothing to see, move on.