ICE detains a Polish doctor and green-card holder who has lived in the U.S. for nearly 40 years

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Just now, Il Mango Dulce said:

This man was adopted...how did he wander?

 

Who said he did?

 

Please pay attention.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

55 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Really?

Arguments in this forum against "chain migration" as an example.

[Amica Nostra 4,803]

1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Who said he did?

 

Please pay attention.

You seem to be jumping around even when responding to others posts. Please be condescending with someone else.

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1 hour ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Or delete the cookies for that site.

Thanks it worked.

I had no idea the site was tracking my cookies to limit my freeloading. 

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1 minute ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

Thanks it worked.

I had no idea the site was tracking my cookies to limit my freeloading. 

Don't worry about the freeloading, I pay enough in subscriptions not used to cover you!

[Merrytooth 5,748]

9 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Arguments in this forum against "chain migration" as an example.

How many Countries offer chain immigration in the first place?

 

USA immigration laws have been very generous.

 

Time to change to merit-based immigration.

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9 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Arguments in this forum against "chain migration" as an example.

So people cannot have an opinion on our current immigration laws?  I am not a big fan of "chain migration", but in the upper forums I would still give people valid advice about bringing family members over.  Having an opinion on a current laws does not mean someone is against something.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 hour ago, yuna628 said:

Okay, we don't know why this individual was apprehended in some articles but WaPo does.

Things we do know: he is living here legally. However at some point in his youth he was either convicted or pled guilty to a minor charge, which I assume would be a deportable offense even if it was stupid as could be. From what I've read elsewhere it seems he managed to get such a charge expunged from his record due to state law in which he resides. However the feds don't recognize this state law. Still, it would seem to me that this offense in his youth wouldn't be the factor that made them nab him. In 2008 he had an impaired driving which was dismissed in some reports but in others I see it was removed from his record after honoring the terms of his probation, would this still count to the feds as well? I think the most serious thing is that he was charged and went to trial for DV in 2013. He was acquitted, but does the feds count this against you? I would imagine his previous DV was with his 1st wife, as he only just recently married the 2nd one. It makes me wonder..

 

According to WaPo - the reasons for his apprehension is due to his original charges when young. By all accounts they are so minor - at about $100 in destruction of property (the second charge was expunged from his record - but it too was about $100). So this begs the question, shouldn't there be bigger baddies out there to go harass and remove?

 

His sister who is a USC believes their mother may have become a citizen at some point, so there may be legal avenues they could pursue. He had thought about becoming a USC soon, but I wonder if that would have been possible given his prior history.

 

 

No wapo is giving a theory as to why he was detained. If I was to hazard a guess, after reading several stories, it was because he was given an order to appear and failed to do so.

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58 minutes ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

Arguments in this forum against "chain migration" as an example.

or the flip side of that, is people here on a legal immigration site who advocate for breaking immigration laws and/or open borders

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21 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

No wapo is giving a theory as to why he was detained. If I was to hazard a guess, after reading several stories, it was because he was given an order to appear and failed to do so.

Not a theory: WaPo states as follows - 

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According to his “notice to appear” from the Department of Homeland Security, Niec’s detention stems from two misdemeanor convictions from 26 years ago. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/01/22/ice-detains-a-polish-doctor-and-green-card-holder-who-has-lived-in-the-u-s-for-nearly-40-years/?utm_term=.7a93fd3b060b

 

I would have said theory or guess if the article did not expressly mention this was the reason listed on his notice to appear. They could have used a speculative phrase, but they did not in this instance. I would have also assumed the same as you did, however it doesn't mention for instance if his notice had been received prior and that he had failed to appear at it. If that was the case I'm sure they would have mentioned that, with a sympathetic reason as to why he failed to appear. No evidence of that so far.

Edited January 23, 2018 by yuna628

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21 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

or the flip side of that, is people here on a legal immigration site who advocate for breaking immigration laws and/or open borders

No one here advocates for breaking immigration law. That would be against the TOS VJ BIBLE OF THE MOST HOLY ORDER.

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Would the USC wife be able to petition for him again, should he get deported?

 

Because it sounds stupid to me -> Green Card holder deported , then USC wife filed AOS/I-130-> Get Green Card again.

Circular motion. Might as well let him stay.

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1 minute ago, yuna628 said:

No one here advocates for breaking immigration law. That would be against the TOS VJ BIBLE OF THE MOST HOLY ORDER.

Then how can someone defend this guy?  I know, the offenses seem minor, but rules are rules and laws are laws.  There was a guy in Detroit just deported back to Mexico recently.  He didn't qualify for DACA, and he triggered a 10 year bar when he tried to AOS through his wife back in 2005.  He and the lawyers dragged it out until now, but just a week ago he was sent back to Mexico.  The wife blamed Trump, but this whole thing started long before Trump.  If this couple came on this board and asked for advice how would we respond?  Most folks would be as matter-of-fact as possible and inform the guy that a 10 yr bar was going to happen.  Why not go back in 2005 and serve the bar?  He could have been back by now.

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1 minute ago, Merrytooth said:

Would the USC wife be able to petition for him again, should he get deported?

 

Because it sounds stupid to me -> Green Card holder deported , then USC wife filed AOS/I-130-> Get Green Card again.

Circular motion. Might as well let him stay.

Waiver might be interesting.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

25 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

Not a theory: WaPo states as follows - 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/01/22/ice-detains-a-polish-doctor-and-green-card-holder-who-has-lived-in-the-u-s-for-nearly-40-years/?utm_term=.7a93fd3b060b

 

I would have said theory or guess if the article did not expressly mention this was the reason listed on his notice to appear. They could have used a speculative phrase, but they did not in this instance. I would have also assumed the same as you did, however it doesn't mention for instance if his notice had been received prior and that he had failed to appear at it. If that was the case I'm sure they would have mentioned that, with a sympathetic reason as to why he failed to appear. No evidence of that so far.

But that is an opinion, based on what he was showed them. ICE has not committed.  If only he had appeared as requested