VWP, Overstay, Marry, Green Card

[David & Diana R 1,005]

1 hour ago, User481516 said:

I would like to stay on topic here if possible

What's the topic again?  I am hypothetically confused. 

[Khallaf 650]

29 minutes ago, User481516 said:

No, did you read the topic? Why you being judgemental? Not marrying cause of overstay, overstaying to marry like lawyer adviced once they decided to marry. He just concerned bout the consequences if things don't workout, why the hate?

as we know it the ESTA is no longer an option as Pedro has already done the overstay, and if they go through with the marriage and the AOS is completed Pedro will get his first 2 year green card, if things continue to press on with the pair in a good way, then after 3 years of marriage Pedro can file to become a USC and get an american passport, none of which would make a difference. If you have tried to make things work and they for whatever reason fail. The ESTA is already behind, if the two of them have a boni fide relationship there is no reason that the AOS should not be denied.

 

you can not go on hypothetical, as we never know what the next day will hold, however if there is love let the love flow.

 

Now if Pedro isn't really that in love, and marriage is only to satisfy Ashley there is a problem.

 

Above mention is true however my advice is that now that Pedro has over stayed he needs to think about all things, he needs to decide if he is really in love, and if he can answer yes...Then nothing better than to take a leap of faith.

 

Good luck to the both of them.

Edited January 23, 2018 by Khallaf

[Boiler 46,084]

1 hour ago, User481516 said:

I appreciate that but prefer a more direct answer to the questions on main post.

 She won't

Ladies have been known to change their mind, perhaps she will.

[Going through 5,671]

17 hours ago, User481516 said:

he never had any intention of staying in USA as he loves his country and dislikes idea of being immigrant or settling in USA.

This is an important part too.  Seriously, if Pedro dislikes the idea of settling in the USA, it could cause many problems in the marriage later on.

The immigration process is stressful enough for people who DO like the idea of being an immigrant.  Add in someone who resents the idea of living in the USA to begin with, who felt pressure to marry, and then all the stress of acclimating to an entirely new culture, adjusting to a new marriage, leaving friends and family behind, etc. it is extremely difficult on Pedro and may cause wear and tear mentally/emotionally.  Visiting the USA is very different than living in the USA.

 

Only you two know your relationship, and only you two know your level of commitment to one another.  Continue to consult with immigration attorneys on the possible consequences of your decisions/actions---and get a few opinions from different ones as not all of them are reputable.  

[User481516 2]

9 minutes ago, Khallaf said:

as we know it the ESTA is no longer an option as Pedro has already done the overstay, and if they go through with the marriage and the AOS is completed Pedro will get his first 2 year green card, if things continue to press on with the pair in a good way, then after 3 years of marriage Pedro can file to become a USC and get an american passport, none of which would make a difference. If you have tried to make things work and they for whatever reason fail. The ESTA is already behind, if the two of them have a boni fide relationship there is no reason that the AOS should not be denied.

 

you can not go on hypothetical, as we never know what the next day will hold, however if there is love let the love flow.

 

Now if Pedro isn't really that in love, and marriage is only to satisfy Ashley there is a problem.

 

Above mention is true however my advice is that now that Pedro has over stayed he needs to think about all things, he needs to decide if he is really in love, and if he can answer yes...Then nothing better than to take a leap of faith.

 

Good luck to the both of them.

Thank you.That's the best answer so far. ESTA isnt really a concern.Yes he is really in love and wants to be with Ashley, he just worried of the unlikely chance they get denied. How it woukd affect them both and if he could he still get his life back together, that is all!

[Khallaf 650]

2 minutes ago, User481516 said:

Thank you.That's the best answer so far. ESTA isnt really a concern.Yes he is really in love and wants to be with Ashley, he just worried of the unlikely chance they get denied. How it woukd affect them both and if he could he still get his life back together, that is all!

If in fact Ashley and Pedro are really in love and are set to make it work, that is all that matters, show a boni fide proof of such together, marry, get joint accounts, have car insurance together purchase a home or rent a place together, show that their life has combined and there is no reason that the AOS will be denied. Fact is USC is entitled to have their spouse with them.

 

That is what we are all fighting for her on VJ, if it doesn't work out Pedro can willingly abandon his stay in USA, and go to his own country, now picking his life back up from where it was may not be an option he likely will have no chance to enter back into the USA  unless it happens to make it past the 3 years of marriage and he then becomes a USC holding a USC passport.

 

I know that there have been some comments here but this is a fact of life we all must make our own choices, and being bullied or pushed into one that isn't yours is just that your choice to make, sometimes paths in roads end, somethings they make a change in direction sometimes there are bumps in the road, but all is how you chose to make the choices.

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

2 hours ago, User481516 said:

No, did you read the topic? Why you being judgemental? Not marrying cause of overstay, overstaying to marry like lawyer adviced once they decided to marry. He just concerned bout the consequences if things don't workout, why the hate?

What? You start out saying that you’re being pressured into this, you actually said you were marrying because of the overstay (maybe you meant different but that’s what you said) and yes I’m highlighting the consequences of if things don’t work out, as you say you are asking, and you call it hate? Huh? Whatever.

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

2 hours ago, User481516 said:

Wanna gimme an answer to all those questions?

No, not when you accuse me of hate just for raising them, and they are very valid. Luckily for you someone else has already answered them.

Edited January 23, 2018 by SusieQQQ

[MiraW 58]

4 hours ago, Khallaf said:

If in fact Ashley and Pedro are really in love and are set to make it work, that is all that matters, show a boni fide proof of such together, marry, get joint accounts, have car insurance together purchase a home or rent a place together, show that their life has combined and there is no reason that the AOS will be denied. Fact is USC is entitled to have their spouse with them.

 

That is what we are all fighting for her on VJ, if it doesn't work out Pedro can willingly abandon his stay in USA, and go to his own country, now picking his life back up from where it was may not be an option he likely will have no chance to enter back into the USA  unless it happens to make it past the 3 years of marriage and he then becomes a USC holding a USC passport.

 

I know that there have been some comments here but this is a fact of life we all must make our own choices, and being bullied or pushed into one that isn't yours is just that your choice to make, sometimes paths in roads end, somethings they make a change in direction sometimes there are bumps in the road, but all is how you chose to make the choices.

After OP gets his 2 year conditional green card, he'll need to file to remove condition before it expires. And then he can file to be naturalized. Don't forget the step of removing condition, because if he doesn't do it, he loses his permanent resident status.

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2 minutes ago, MiraW said:

After OP gets his 2 year conditional green card, he'll need to file to remove condition before it expires. And then he can file to be naturalized. Don't forget the step of removing condition, because if he doesn't do it, he loses his permanent resident status.

Nothing to do with the OP, this is all hypothetical.

[MiraW 58]

13 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Nothing to do with the OP, this is all hypothetical.

Oops sorry. I meant Pedro.