Seems Safe to Include G325-A with I129F. Agree?

[PirateLiker 11]

I apologize for raising this because it seems this topic has been beat to death. Apparently the new I129F does not require form G325-A. However, I read that some people have received RFE's for not including it even though they sent the new I129F. I plan to go ahead and send them with my application. Has anyone gotten an RFE for INCLUDING G325-A with the new I129F? It seems like the safest approach.

 

[payxibka 10,045]

4 minutes ago, PirateLiker said:

I apologize for raising this because it seems this topic has been beat to death. Apparently the new I129F does not require form G325-A. However, I read that some people have received RFE's for not including it even though they sent the new I129F. I plan to go ahead and send them with my application. Has anyone gotten an RFE for INCLUDING G325-A with the new I129F? It seems like the safest approach.

 

Why would you get an RFE (Request for Evidence) for submitting evidence that is not required?

[Mrsjackson 300]

10 minutes ago, payxibka said:

Why would you get an RFE (Request for Evidence) for submitting evidence that is not required?

Why answer a question with a question? If you can’t answer then don’t. 

 

We filed around the time the G-325A was made obsolete but I included it anyway because it can’t hurt to include it. If they need it they’ll keep it and if they don’t they chuck it. Since it does not require a lot of effort I would consider just including them, especially if you’ve heard of other filers getting RFE’s. Good luck. 

Edited January 21, 2018 by Mrsjackson

[payxibka 10,045]

Do you understand what an RFE is?

 

You get an RFE for NOT submitting required information.  Saying it another way, You do NOT get an RFE for submitting something that isn't required.   

[Hypnos 6,576]

You get RFEs for things they need which you don't submit, not things which you submit that they don't need.

 

An RFE literally stands for a Request for Further Evidence.

Edited January 21, 2018 by Hypnos

[PirateLiker 11]

I agree with your logic but I read a post where someone did get an RFE with the new I129F for not submitting G325A's. I can't find it now. 

[payxibka 10,045]

If you got a notice for over-submitting,  then everyone who submits relationship evidence with the petition would get some sort of notice because the USCIS doesn't require that to be submitted with the petition.  Then it would not be an RFE but an RFOE (Reply for over evidence)

[geowrian 22,337]

You won't get an RFE solely for including an irrelevant document...although sending a slew of unnecessary documents may just frustrate the IO into sending an RFE for what he/she actually wants instead of reading through everything.

 

At the same time, it's like sending a birthday card from your aunt when you were 10 years old. They don't care and won't use it. The G-325A isn't required or used. Trying to send them information in anticipation of a (very uncommon, at best) mistake is not a fruitful endeavor.

[PirateLiker 11]

OK that makes sense. Also, the only G325A form on the USCIS site that I could find shows that it expired on 6/30/2017 

[payxibka 10,045]

2 minutes ago, PirateLiker said:

OK that makes sense. Also, the only G325A form on the USCIS site that I could find shows that it expired on 6/30/2017 

There is your sign that it is no longer required

[Marcelina 246]

Recent 129f form contains questions about biographic info, that previously needed to be filled in G-325A. I used new form, and I did not get RFE. I hardly believe somone got RFE for this reason. Don't include what is not necessary. The packed itself with all the attachments will be big enough

[ILoveCoffee4Ever 1]

This person got an RFE even though they used the new forms :

 

 

[dentsflogged 352]

11 minutes ago, ILoveCoffee4Ever said:

This person got an RFE even though they used the new forms :

 

 

That person filed almost 7 months ago in June 2017.  
The G325a form expired end of June 2017.

 

Seems like an honest, easy to make mistake from the AO that they may have believed forms submitted in June still required it. 

 

 

 

[TNJ17 1,329]

26 minutes ago, ILoveCoffee4Ever said:

This person got an RFE even though they used the new forms :

 

 

It was still a requirement to send in June. 

[TNJ17 1,329]

You don’t need to send biographic forms with the new 129f. Sending more stuff with your petition just makes it take longer to go through. More paperwork for them to analyze.