Luis Gutierrez: Shutdown Really About ‘First Racist President’ Wanting to End Legal Immigration

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1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

Sure, they could have made two articles out of it and really appeased their political base.

It's not just about appeasing a political base. Some things are just the way they are, so are some people.

 

Nothing wrong with calling things by their names. Trump does it all the time. 

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2 hours ago, -Trinity- said:

It's not just about appeasing a political base. Some things are just the way they are, so are some people.

 

Nothing wrong with calling things by their names. Trump does it all the time. 

Nope nothing wrong calling a plant a plant, but calling a religion a race is just sloppy on the part of the NYTimes, or am I wrong about that?

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45 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Nope nothing wrong calling a plant a plant, but calling a religion a race is just sloppy on the part of the NYTimes, or am I wrong about that?

I think it was more likely deliberate.

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racism and bigotry go hand in hand. trump loathes muslims = bigotry. trump loathes non whites = racism & bigotry.

 

there's really nothing to split hairs over.

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What is there not to like about the Religion of Peace?

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What is there not to like about the Religion of Peace?

ask trump. 

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50 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Nope nothing wrong calling a plant a plant, but calling a religion a race is just sloppy on the part of the NYTimes, or am I wrong about that?

No, you are right..its kinda ignorant calling a religion a race. But if they want to give it a name, they should have called him xenophobic instead.
 

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1 minute ago, Boiler said:

What is there not to like about the Religion of Peace?

No need to like it, but there is a lot wrong with presenting opinions as facts.

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1 minute ago, -Trinity- said:

No, you are right..its kinda ignorant calling a religion a race. But if they want to give it a name, they should have called him xenophobic instead.
 

Islamophobia?

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1 minute ago, -Trinity- said:

No need to like it, but there is a lot wrong with presenting opinions as facts.

Isn't CEHST full of opinion?

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1 minute ago, Boiler said:

Islamophobia?

A possibility, not sure whether he is Islamophobic considering the fact that he has Muslim business partners.
But based on the things he says, he definitely uses xenophobia as a tool.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Isn't CEHST full of opinion?

It's different and has much more consequences when a president uses opinions and present them as facts.

 

I don't think that any one cares about the average Joe's opinion..

 

And you know what they say about opinions...something I certainly can't repeat here.

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3 minutes ago, -Trinity- said:

It's different and has much more consequences when a president uses opinions and present them as facts.

 

I don't think that any one cares about the average Joe's opinion..

 

And you know what they say about opinions...something I certainly can't repeat here.

So like Obama?

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1 minute ago, Boiler said:

So like Obama?

I am the type of person that doesn't look back but rather forward, Obama is a closed door. 

We are now in 2018, Trump is the president.

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8 minutes ago, -Trinity- said:

It's different and has much more consequences when a president uses opinions and present them as facts.

 

I don't think that any one cares about the average Joe's opinion..

 

And you know what they say about opinions...something I certainly can't repeat here.

So why is it different?  The past nine presidents that I have been around for have all done this.  I know there is a big unhealthy hatred for Trump, but that doesn't negate the fact that all president do this in their own way.