Luis Gutierrez: Shutdown Really About ‘First Racist President’ Wanting to End Legal Immigration

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

15 hours ago, cdneh said:

I don't read the times. It's rubbish.

Man, it's so nice to see people on here who display sense.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

31 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I think I could ask you the same question.  People, even presidents, make mistakes, but newspapers, especially those that self-identify as the main news source for the nation, have a whole team of folks that should minimize or eliminate mistakes, but instead we get drivel from them about Trump being a racist where they reference his position on Muslims.  So I ask you again, when did being Muslim become a racial identity?

Islam isn't a race. And I don't spend my time here cheering for Obama or defending him as is the case here for many Trump supporters. If I agree with something Trump has done or proposes, I say so as I don't disagree with everything about him. There are many here who can't say the same about Obama or a Democrat. 

[Dashinka 24,820]

22 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

Islam isn't a race. And I don't spend my time here cheering for Obama or defending him as is the case here for many Trump supporters. If I agree with something Trump has done or proposes, I say so as I don't disagree with everything about him. There are many here who can't say the same about Obama or a Democrat. 

If Trump does something from a governing standpoint that I disagree with I will certainly let everyone know.  All this trivial chatter about his mannerisms, or other stupid stuff is just that.  I really don't care that Obama said we had 57 States, it was a tongue slip.  The left wing media such as the NYTimes and WaPo and CNN seem to want us to focus on the trivial stuff, hence the appearance of defending Trump.  Why is the media above being criticized for their bias?

[cdneh 3,112]

All the democrats have left is ad hominem attacks. Which is to say, nothing. But they continue to bang away nonetheless.

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21 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

The minute the NYtimes includes Muslims as a race they lose all credibility.

In that case they should have called him xenophobic instead of racist.

[Dashinka 24,820]

15 hours ago, -Trinity- said:

In that case they should have called him xenophobic instead of racist.

Sure, they could have made two articles out of it and really appeased their political base.

[smilesammich 10,727]

16 hours ago, -Trinity- said:

In that case they should have called him xenophobic instead of racist.

you're right, trump is both.

and luis gutierrez is wrong, trump isn't 'the first' racist president. 

[Dashinka 24,820]

10 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

you're right, trump is both.

and luis gutierrez is wrong, trump isn't 'the first' racist president. 

I am sure we have had a lot of racist presidents, even some recently.

[Boiler 46,146]

11 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

you're right, trump is both.

and luis gutierrez is wrong, trump isn't 'the first' racist president. 

Obama?

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

I am sure we have had a lot of racist presidents, even some recently.

currently, yes.

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, Boiler said:

Obama?

if you struggle with the definition of racism, i suppose one could think that. a racist first black president, that's funny. in a really sad way.

[Dashinka 24,820]

3 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

if you struggle with the definition of racism, i suppose one could think that. a racist first black president, that's funny. in a really sad way.

Enlighten us.

[smilesammich 10,727]

9 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Enlighten us.

pretty basic, anyone that claims obama is a racist clearly doesn't know the meaning of 'racist'. if you have questions, you'll have to do your own homework.

 

but i will say this, the same people who think obama didn't have enough 'experience' to be president - love trump for having no political experience whatsoever - in fact they love him for wanting to destroy political/societal norms. 

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7 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

pretty basic, anyone that claims obama is a racist clearly doesn't know the meaning of 'racist'. if you have questions, you'll have to do your own homework.

 

but i will say this, the same people who think obama didn't have enough 'experience' to be president - love trump for having no political experience whatsoever - in fact they love him for wanting to destroy political/societal norms. 

I thought everybody was Racist?

[smilesammich 10,727]

8 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I thought everybody was Racist?

you also thought i was calling obama our first racist president