Luis Gutierrez: Shutdown Really About ‘First Racist President’ Wanting to End Legal Immigration

[Steeleballz 7,550]

20 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

The minute the NYtimes includes Muslims as a race they lose all credibility.

 

  The original article is from Breitbart. Why bring credibility into the conversation at this point?

[jg121783 3,921]

2 hours ago, JimandChristy said:

Want me to post Trumps entire history and actions of his racism in full view?

Please do. And I want it to come from you. Not regurgitated from some discredited hit piece from the N.Y. Slimes.

 

41 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  The original article is from Breitbart. Why bring credibility into the conversation at this point?

Do you deny Gutierrez said what the article claims he said? If not then what does it matter what site reports it if the facts aren't being disputed?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

The minute the NYtimes includes Muslims as a race they lose all credibility.

How about when the President forgets the words to the National Anthem? Or rants like a child on Twitter?

[JimandChristy 1,689]

14 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Please do. And I want it to come from you. Not regurgitated from some discredited hit piece from the N.Y. Slimes.

 

Do you deny Gutierrez said what the article claims he said? If not then what does it matter what site reports it if the facts aren't being disputed?

LOL so everything the NYT reported in that list that has been confirmed isn't true? You been watching too much of the Trump Propaganda Channel.

Edited January 22, 2018 by JimandChristy

[Steeleballz 7,550]

38 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Please do. And I want it to come from you. Not regurgitated from some discredited hit piece from the N.Y. Slimes.

 

Do you deny Gutierrez said what the article claims he said? If not then what does it matter what site reports it if the facts aren't being disputed?

 

  NY times = discredited hit piece. Breitbart = facts are not being disputed. You so funny! 

[Dashinka 24,786]

10 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  The original article is from Breitbart. Why bring credibility into the conversation at this point?

I believe I was commenting on the link for the NYTimes.

[Dashinka 24,786]

10 hours ago, spookyturtle said:

How about when the President forgets the words to the National Anthem? Or rants like a child on Twitter?

Or when a president adds seven more states to the union?  Does the NYTimes know that a religious affiliation is not a racial identity, or are they following the Obama declaration that racial identity is a social construct?

Edited January 22, 2018 by Bill & Katya

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9 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  NY times = discredited hit piece. Breitbart = facts are not being disputed. You so funny! 

So you believe everything in the NYTimes? 

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

10 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  NY times = discredited hit piece. Breitbart = facts are not being disputed. You so funny! 

Where is it showed that it came from Breitbart? I looked on there and there is no mention of Breitbart at all.

Edited January 22, 2018 by cyberfx1024

[Steeleballz 7,550]

39 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I believe I was commenting on the link for the NYTimes.

 

 

12 minutes ago, cyberfx1024 said:

Where is it showed that it came from Breitbart? I looked on there and there is no mention of Breitbart at all.

 

  The link in the OP was Breitbart.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

1 hour ago, Bill & Katya said:

Or when a president adds seven more states to the union?  Does the NYTimes know that a religious affiliation is not a racial identity, or are they following the Obama declaration that racial identity is a social construct?

Why don't you hold Trump to the same standards as you do Obama? Why all the excuses and deflections? 

[Dashinka 24,786]

2 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

 

 

  The link in the OP was Breitbart.

You need to read all the posts.  There is a NYTimes link in a later posted response.

[Dashinka 24,786]

1 hour ago, spookyturtle said:

Why don't you hold Trump to the same standards as you do Obama? Why all the excuses and deflections? 

I think I could ask you the same question.  People, even presidents, make mistakes, but newspapers, especially those that self-identify as the main news source for the nation, have a whole team of folks that should minimize or eliminate mistakes, but instead we get drivel from them about Trump being a racist where they reference his position on Muslims.  So I ask you again, when did being Muslim become a racial identity?

[Steeleballz 7,550]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

You need to read all the posts.  There is a NYTimes link in a later posted response.

 

   I know. I'm not discussing the links, I'm talking about the attitude. I'm just not sure why someone find's Breitbarts credibility to be irreproachable, but the NYT to be dismissed as fake news. It reminds me of a class I had where the professor used to tell the same joke every day for the whole semester. The joke itself was painful after a while, but there was still something funny about figuring out when he was going to say it. 

[Dashinka 24,786]

2 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

   I know. I'm not discussing the links, I'm talking about the attitude. I'm just not sure why someone find's Breitbarts credibility to be irreproachable, but the NYT to be dismissed as fake news. It reminds me of a class I had where the professor used to tell the same joke every day for the whole semester. The joke itself was painful after a while, but there was still something funny about figuring out when he was going to say it. 

I didn't compare the two, you did.  The links were very different stories, and I am sure there are other news sources that covers the Gutierrez MoveOn speech, so who cares.  It still doesn't answer the question relative Muslims being a race as identified in the NYTimes article.  Maybe it is just a case of the NYTimes wanting to pile on their biased attacks on Trump.  I am fine with anyone identifying Breitbart as right biased.  Will you admit that the NYTimes is Left biased?