House Passes Bill To Avoid Government Shutdown

[NikLR 13,232]

6 minutes ago, Boiler said:

So no VJ?

 

Nobody who was brought up in country xxxx should just have to leave the only country they have ever known?

 

Sounds a bit weird.

No you shouldn't HAVE to leave when you had no choice in the matter of where you were raised.  Thats why there are regulations regarding who is eligible for DACA.  

 

Choosing to leave said country, thus VJ, is obviously okay.

 

If you have no right to citizenship, then if you choose to leave or break the laws, that country does not have to allow you to stay or return. 

 

Of course VJ would happen, otherwise I would be further north in more snow and you would be in the UK.  LOL

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[Boiler 46,107]

5 minutes ago, NikLR said:

No you shouldn't HAVE to leave when you had no choice in the matter of where you were raised.  Thats why there are regulations regarding who is eligible for DACA.  

 

Choosing to leave said country, thus VJ, is obviously okay.

 

If you have no right to citizenship, then if you choose to leave or break the laws, that country does not have to allow you to stay or return. 

 

Of course VJ would happen, otherwise I would be further north in more snow and you would be in the UK.  LOL

Well I remember where we lived when I was 3, so would 4 but a good cut off?

[Dashinka 24,793]

1 hour ago, NikLR said:

So you are saying, someone who was brought to the USA as a child should just have to leave the only country they have ever known?  Sounds fair.... 

 

I think we need to stop the flow first, then we can tackle this small population.  I am fine with DACA, but maybe make it a permenant residency with no path to citizenship under this program.  If they change status through a family change, then fine.  They should also have to tell INS who brought them here illegally.

[Boiler 46,107]

33 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I think we need to stop the flow first, then we can tackle this small population.  I am fine with DACA, but maybe make it a permenant residency with no path to citizenship under this program.  If they change status through a family change, then fine.  They should also have to tell INS who brought them here illegally.

Good Morale Character requirement, should include helping the Authorities track down Criminals.

[NikLR 13,232]

37 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I think we need to stop the flow first, then we can tackle this small population.  I am fine with DACA, but maybe make it a permenant residency with no path to citizenship under this program.  If they change status through a family change, then fine.  They should also have to tell INS who brought them here illegally.

Turn in their parents? Didn't they already do that when they applied for DACA?  I know people under DACA.  They certainly don't have permanent residency.  They have work permits that need to be reapplied for and have to apply in advance for permission to leave the USA. 

 

50 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Well I remember where we lived when I was 3, so would 4 but a good cut off?

Not really... did you have a choice in where you lived? I sure didn't have a choice then. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

4 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Absolutely against the law to require a SSN for obtaining health insurance. 

Same with bank accounts.  Most banks will try to tell you it is REQUIRED.  But they be wrong.

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

2 hours ago, jg121783 said:

If they aren't illegal aliens what are they?

DACA recipients?

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

4 hours ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

NPR is fake news? 

I see you failed to click on the link.  Can’t help you if you cannot navigate your way to the post in question.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

3 hours ago, JimandChristy said:

Don't you know? To Trump supporters anything that isn't on the Trump Propaganda Channel is Fake News.

It would appear you are unaware how a link to a post works.  Perhaps you should CLICK ON IT before you make a comment that has nothing to do with the intent of the post and just shows... nvm.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

2 hours ago, jg121783 said:

If they aren't illegal aliens what are they?

Unregistred Democrat voters 

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

21 minutes ago, Boiler said:

Good Morale Character requirement, should include helping the Authorities track down Criminals.

I never knew snitching was a moral pillar. 

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 hours ago, NikLR said:

So you are saying, someone who was brought to the USA as a child should just have to leave the only country they have ever known?  Sounds fair.... 

 

It may not seem FAIR, but it is the LAW.  I think a lot of you people who think DACA folks should just get to stay should go on an adventure.  Maybe a group one.  Pick a foreign country (other than the US), enter illegally, then try to get citizenship there.  Let’s see how that works for you.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

6 minutes ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

DACA recipients?

DACA = illegal alien with a deportation deferment.

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4 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

I remember when my wife first got here and we got married, HR and the local rep for the insurance company said we needed a SSN to sign her up. They got educated in federal law quickly. 

As well they should get educated! It neverendingly irks me how many HR and reps continue to make downright illegal demands from customers. If there's a poster here that's being told they need an SSN to have health insurance - I suggest reading federal law and ask them if they really want to continue breaking it.

[jg121783 3,921]

2 hours ago, NikLR said:

So you are saying, someone who was brought to the USA as a child should just have to leave the only country they have ever known?  Sounds fair.... 

 

That is not at all what I said. I simply asked if people who came here illegally aren't illegal aliens what are they? I would actually support a reasonable solution allowing people brought here as children to stay but some conditions have to be met. First of all they should have to prove they were brought here as children and have been here long enough to establish a life here. Secondly no one gets to stay who has a criminal record. Third something has to be done to stop this disaster from happening in the future. Finally anyone wanting to stay has to go through the same application process any other potential immigrant goes through (a temporary visa could be granted during the application process). If those conditions are met I support allowing some daca recipients to stay. If not I don't.

 

7 minutes ago, Keith & Arileidi said:

DACA recipients?

DACA recipients are still illegal aliens.

 

3 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Unregistred Democrat voters 

Bingo.