Having a baby want to get parents green cards to help with baby sitting

[geowrian 22,338]

6 minutes ago, Mocanca said:

2. Great examples thank you.  Same question I had to Boiler, when would they present this information?

At the interview, upon request. Many times the CO doesn't ask for this...the DS-160 contains the vast majority of information they consider. But they should be ready to present it if requested.

 

Best wishes.

[Ontarkie 14,499]

~~Moved to Bringing Family Of USC, from Passports- As the OP is asking about her husband petitioning his parents.~~

[Mocanca 1]

2 minutes ago, geowrian said:

At the interview, upon request. Many times the CO doesn't ask for this...the DS-160 contains the vast majority of information they consider. But they should be ready to present it if requested.

 

Best wishes.

I am so so sorry that I am going to ask you one more question.  You have been very helpful.  A DS-160 is applying for a visa, however they have valid visas currently.  Do you mean to say their current tourist visa's will be revoked if I apply for their permanent residency?  Is that why I would need them to file for another DS-160.

 

Best wishes to you as well!

 

1 minute ago, Ontarkie said:

~~Moved to Bringing Family Of USC, from Passports- As the OP is asking about her husband petitioning his parents.~~

Thank you, I apologize for posting in the wrong section.  It has been a while since I have used your wonderful website!  

[Boiler 46,124]

2 minutes ago, Mocanca said:

I am so so sorry that I am going to ask you one more question.  You have been very helpful.  A DS-160 is applying for a visa, however they have valid visas currently.  Do you mean to say their current tourist visa's will be revoked if I apply for their permanent residency?  Is that why I would need them to file for another DS-160.

 

Best wishes to you as well!

 

The PoE as previously are the ones who determine entry.

[JFH 12,191]

1 hour ago, Mocanca said:

Yes, I am using them to babysit but I wouldn't consider it work

Doesn't matter what you call it, it's what the law calls it that counts. Looking after children, even your grandchildren, is considered "work" and not permitted on a tourist visa. Of course they can visit the child, and do the odd thing to help you out like give the child a bath or something while you watch your favorite tv show. But a structured routine of care whilst you go to work is considered "work" and deprives a citizen or LPR of a job. That's why it's not permitted. 

Edited January 15, 2018 by JFH

[JFH 12,191]

22 minutes ago, Mocanca said:

Do you mean to say their current tourist visa's will be revoked if I apply for their permanent residency?  

No. Their visas will remain valid. However, whether they will be admitted into the country is another matter. That will be determined at the POE when they arrive. I think the other poster thought they were applying for visas. At POE they must satisfy the CBP officer that they have no immigration intent. That's difficult - but not impossible - when a petition for an immigrant visa has been filed. 

 

Incidentakjy, you say they won't be coming here permanently but that's the whole point of a green card. It's not a deluxe version of a tourist visa to allow them to maintain residency overseas and visit the USA for extended periods. Green card holders must maintain their primary residency in the USA. They will also be subject to various rules and regulations concerning the IRS, etc. They risk not being let in if they spend too much time overseas for what is considered to be "normal" for someone whose main residence is the USA. 

[geowrian 22,338]

2 hours ago, Mocanca said:

I am so so sorry that I am going to ask you one more question.  You have been very helpful.  A DS-160 is applying for a visa, however they have valid visas currently.  Do you mean to say their current tourist visa's will be revoked if I apply for their permanent residency?  Is that why I would need them to file for another DS-160.

Whoops...I forgot they already had visas. haha Brain fart.

As others noted, it would be shown at POE, if requested by the CPB officer. On the plus side, they very likely would look at any such documentation. No need for a DS-160, and filing for permanent residency won't affect their current visa's validity.

Edited January 15, 2018 by geowrian

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

4 hours ago, Mocanca said:

.  I am not trying to have them stay here indefinitely, they wouldnt want that either, they have a 22 year old foster child and they have farm animals.  However, if I needed the help or couldn't manage, it would be nice for them to be able to stay past the 6 months which is why it would be great to make them permanent residents.  

 

A green card is not a super visa. JFH already summed up the main issues:

3 hours ago, JFH said:

 

Incidentakjy, you say they won't be coming here permanently but that's the whole point of a green card. It's not a deluxe version of a tourist visa to allow them to maintain residency overseas and visit the USA for extended periods. Green card holders must maintain their primary residency in the USA. They will also be subject to various rules and regulations concerning the IRS, etc. They risk not being let in if they spend too much time overseas for what is considered to be "normal" for someone whose main residence is the USA. 

But just to add, if they don’t maintain the responsibilities of their green cards and get those taken away, it will be near impossible for them to get tourist visas after that as they'll have demonstrated obvious immigrant intent. Possibly different story if they voluntarily renounce them at some further stage, but they especially need to keep residence requirements and IRS obligations in mind. 

[Mocanca 1]

9 hours ago, JFH said:

Doesn't matter what you call it, it's what the law calls it that counts. Looking after children, even your grandchildren, is considered "work" and not permitted on a tourist visa. Of course they can visit the child, and do the odd thing to help you out like give the child a bath or something while you watch your favorite tv show. But a structured routine of care whilst you go to work is considered "work" and deprives a citizen or LPR of a job. That's why it's not permitted. 

I understand completely thank you.

9 hours ago, JFH said:

No. Their visas will remain valid. However, whether they will be admitted into the country is another matter. That will be determined at the POE when they arrive. I think the other poster thought they were applying for visas. At POE they must satisfy the CBP officer that they have no immigration intent. That's difficult - but not impossible - when a petition for an immigrant visa has been filed. 

 

Incidentakjy, you say they won't be coming here permanently but that's the whole point of a green card. It's not a deluxe version of a tourist visa to allow them to maintain residency overseas and visit the USA for extended periods. Green card holders must maintain their primary residency in the USA. They will also be subject to various rules and regulations concerning the IRS, etc. They risk not being let in if they spend too much time overseas for what is considered to be "normal" for someone whose main residence is the USA. 

I see, I am not sure if we should apply then.  Perhaps we will just hope that in 2020 they can apply for new tourist visa's.  Thank you  

7 hours ago, geowrian said:

Whoops...I forgot they already had visas. haha Brain fart.

As others noted, it would be shown at POE, if requested by the CPB officer. On the plus side, they very likely would look at any such documentation. No need for a DS-160, and filing for permanent residency won't affect their current visa's validity.

Thats okay  !  As long as I am not being annoying with my questions!  Thank you that was my question entirely and you have answered it.  

6 hours ago, SusieQQQ said:

A green card is not a super visa. JFH already summed up the main issues:

But just to add, if they don’t maintain the responsibilities of their green cards and get those taken away, it will be near impossible for them to get tourist visas after that as they'll have demonstrated obvious immigrant intent. Possibly different story if they voluntarily renounce them at some further stage, but they especially need to keep residence requirements and IRS obligations in mind. 

You all have given us a lot to think about and I am eternally grateful for your advice and the information.  I read through many uscis documents, FAQs and directions but nothing has been as informative and helpful as this thread.  Thank you all so much for your time! 

[Crazy Cat 42,327]

11 hours ago, Mocanca said:

Hi!  

 

I am sorry if I am not stating this correctly, these are my inlaws and I am not hiring them to work I am simply trying to have them here to help out with the baby.  I am not trying to have them stay here indefinitely, they wouldnt want that either, they have a 22 year old foster child and they have farm animals.  However, if I needed the help or couldn't manage, it would be nice for them to be able to stay past the 6 months which is why it would be great to make them permanent residents.  

 

Green Card holders MUST establish their PRIMARY residence in the US!  Green Cards are for LIVING in the US.  Attempting to use them as premium visitor visas is a misuse and abuse of the immigration system.

[Mocanca 1]

4 minutes ago, missileman said:

Green Card holders MUST establish their PRIMARY residence in the US!  Green Cards are for LIVING in the US.  Attempting to use them as premium visitor visas is a misuse and abuse of the immigration system.

Hi,

 

I think everyone has already pointed out my mistake, I appreciate your reply.  I understand this now and again appreciate all of the clarifications.  

[Crazy Cat 42,327]

Just now, Mocanca said:

Hi,

 

I think everyone has already pointed out my mistake, I appreciate your reply.  I understand this now and again appreciate all of the clarifications.  

Best of luck to you and your entire family......

[Am & Ra 19]

There will soon be a bill presented to congress to end chain migration. You can thank all the illegal immigrants who poured across our borders for that. 

[Boiler 46,124]

5 minutes ago, Am & Ra said:

There will soon be a bill presented to congress to end chain migration. You can thank all the illegal immigrants who poured across our borders for that. 

I should mention the term chain migration is racists to some and may trigger them.

[Am & Ra 19]

2 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I should mention the term chain migration is racists to some and may trigger them.

Only to them who are delusional, let them be triggered.