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Hello VJ Community. I have known my Candia fiancee for over a year now. I myself am a USC. We do have a pending K1 but being process times are taking longer than usual, we want to get married. The goal is to have the marriage here in the US and then file I130. If the Canadian-born  fiancee comes and gets married here (enters via passport) within a short period of time (within a month of arrival), will that trigger the 90 day rule that the USCIS looks at for fraud? 

 

If I go to Canada and get married then file i130 when I get back to America,  does the 90 day rule still apply? 

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The only rule which applies is that your Canadian fiance can not enter the US with the intent to marry and remain/adjust staus....unless she enters via an approved K-1.

 

There is nothing to prevent you from marrying in Canada before you apply for a CR-1 when you return to the US.

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1 minute ago, deepakchani said:

Yes, if we go down this route of marrying here and then doing the i130, we would drop the K1 as it is taking forever for approval. Would that impact anything? 

I-130s are not any better

YMMV

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1 minute ago, deepakchani said:

Yes, if we go down this route of marrying here and then doing the i130, we would drop the K1 as it is taking forever for approval. Would that impact anything? 

Where do you plan to marry?  First you said Canada, now you say here.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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1 minute ago, missileman said:

Where do you plan to marry?  First you said Canada, now you say here.

I am still planning the best option (marriage either here or the US). I want to make sure if it is here, we don't trigger some 90 day rule even though in the K1 packet we said we have a religious ceremony planned for July (just a ceremony and not a legal marriage). When we legally get married it would be through the court and registered. 

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how far along in the K1 process are you? If your fiancee comes to the US with the intention to stay and remain and adjust that would be fraud. She can enter, you guys get married and then she leaves to wait out the CR1 process back home.

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N-400     28-Jun-21 Filed online ~ 28-Jun-21 Received NOA + "Biometrics will be re-used" notice ~ 14-Dec-21 Interview scheduled ~ 25-Jan-22 Interview. Approved. Case status: Oath will be scheduled.  ~ 01-Feb-22 Oath scheduled. ~ 14-Feb-22 Oath ceremony.   

ROC        11-Jun-20 Application sent via FedEx ~ 16-Jun-20 Case received ~ 29-Jun-20 (Old) biometrics applied to case ~ 01-Jul-20 NOA ~ 23-Dec-21 Case transferred to new office ~ 25-Jan-22 Combo interview with N400. Case approved. 

AOS        13-Oct -17 Application sent via FedEx ~ 17-Oct-17 Case received ~ 24-Oct-17 Fingerprint fee received ~ 25-Oct-17 NOA1 ~ 17-Nov-17 Biometrics ~ 23-Nov-17 Status "We are scheduling
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04-Sep-18 Received approval / welcome letter in the mail ~04-Sep-18 Status: "Card was mailed to me" ~07-Sep-18 Green card received

EAD/AP  13-Oct Application sent via FedEx ~ 17-Oct Case received ~ 25-Oct NOA1 ~ 17-Nov Biometrics ~ 09-Jan Approved ~ 13-Jan Notice received ~ 18-Jan Combo card received

K1 Visa   28-Jun-17 Case ready (No packet 3 received) ~ 22-Jul Medical ~ 02-Aug Interview (APPROVED!) ~ 03-Aug Visa issued ~ 08-Aug VOH ~ 14-Sep POE (Abu Dhabi) ~ 01-Oct-17 Got married! 

I-129F     17-Feb-17 Petition sent via FedEx ~ 21-Feb-17 Case received ~ 24-Feb-17 NOA1 ~ 30-May-17 NOA2 12-Jun-17 NVC received / Case and Invoice numbers assigned ~ 20-Jun-17 NVC left

 

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Just now, iamdegie said:

how far along in the K1 process are you? If your fiancee comes to the US with the intention to stay and remain and adjust that would be fraud. She can enter, you guys get married and then she leaves to wait out the CR1 process back home.

We are waiting for NOA2 now since December. Yes, she will not adjust status here (which is fraud). We would get married here, she would go back to Canada, and wait for the i130. Follow up question would be :Can she visit while i130/cr1 is being processed? 

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1 minute ago, deepakchani said:

We are waiting for NOA2 now since December. Yes, she will not adjust status here (which is fraud). We would get married here, she would go back to Canada, and wait for the i130. Follow up question would be :Can she visit while i130/cr1 is being processed? 

Yes, visiting is permitted

 

There is no 90 rule to worry about....good luck.

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"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

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10 minutes ago, deepakchani said:

We are waiting for NOA2 now since December. Yes, she will not adjust status here (which is fraud). We would get married here, she would go back to Canada, and wait for the i130. Follow up question would be :Can she visit while i130/cr1 is being processed? 

Ok, not too long ago since you filed then. i am not exactly sure how to go about it, but you need to look at how to withdraw the k1 application first before you start over with the cr1. maybe consider though, that by the time you have withdrawn the k1 to the time your fiancee visits, you get married and completes and submits the cr1 application, months may have passed and you would be almost done with the k1 if you had stuck it out.

 

Like the poster below said, she can visit while the cr1 is being processed.

Passport 17-Feb-22 Drop-off at USPS (expedited processing and shipping) ~ 22-Feb-22 Status: In Process ~ 08-Mar-22 Passport book shipped ~ 09-Mar-22 Status: Approved. Passport book in hand.

N-400     28-Jun-21 Filed online ~ 28-Jun-21 Received NOA + "Biometrics will be re-used" notice ~ 14-Dec-21 Interview scheduled ~ 25-Jan-22 Interview. Approved. Case status: Oath will be scheduled.  ~ 01-Feb-22 Oath scheduled. ~ 14-Feb-22 Oath ceremony.   

ROC        11-Jun-20 Application sent via FedEx ~ 16-Jun-20 Case received ~ 29-Jun-20 (Old) biometrics applied to case ~ 01-Jul-20 NOA ~ 23-Dec-21 Case transferred to new office ~ 25-Jan-22 Combo interview with N400. Case approved. 

AOS        13-Oct -17 Application sent via FedEx ~ 17-Oct-17 Case received ~ 24-Oct-17 Fingerprint fee received ~ 25-Oct-17 NOA1 ~ 17-Nov-17 Biometrics ~ 23-Nov-17 Status "We are scheduling
                 your 
interview" ~ 24-Jul-18 Status "We have scheduled your interview" ~ 28-Jul-18 Interview notice received in the mail  ~ 29-Aug-18 Interview 30-Aug-18 Status "Case was approved" 
                 
04-Sep-18 Received approval / welcome letter in the mail ~04-Sep-18 Status: "Card was mailed to me" ~07-Sep-18 Green card received

EAD/AP  13-Oct Application sent via FedEx ~ 17-Oct Case received ~ 25-Oct NOA1 ~ 17-Nov Biometrics ~ 09-Jan Approved ~ 13-Jan Notice received ~ 18-Jan Combo card received

K1 Visa   28-Jun-17 Case ready (No packet 3 received) ~ 22-Jul Medical ~ 02-Aug Interview (APPROVED!) ~ 03-Aug Visa issued ~ 08-Aug VOH ~ 14-Sep POE (Abu Dhabi) ~ 01-Oct-17 Got married! 

I-129F     17-Feb-17 Petition sent via FedEx ~ 21-Feb-17 Case received ~ 24-Feb-17 NOA1 ~ 30-May-17 NOA2 12-Jun-17 NVC received / Case and Invoice numbers assigned ~ 20-Jun-17 NVC left

 

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If you have already filed the K1 its gonna be faster than filing a CR1. Even if you hadn’t it would still be faster. You cannot have her come to the US, get married and adjust status without the K1 Visa. That’s immigration fraud. If you wanna drop the K1, which I think is not a good idea, to have her come to the US, get married, or get married anywhere, and file CR1 it’s gonna take another 12-14 months from the date of filing. She would have to go back to her home country and wait for visa in order to come. You’re already halfway there with your K1. There’s no faster option for you. 

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at this point.. wait for the K1! its already filed!

 

dont plan ANY wedding!!!

 

just wait. a few more months and then she can come to the USA and get marrired.. you should have done the CR1 (marriage visa) and i recommend every canadian do this as they usually have no issues visiting! and get a greencard upon entry!!!!! also, she could get married and go home and apply for the CR1

 

 

but you did the K1, wait it out.

 

 

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17 hours ago, deepakchani said:

Hello VJ Community. I have known my Candia fiancee for over a year now. I myself am a USC. We do have a pending K1 but being process times are taking longer than usual, we want to get married. The goal is to have the marriage here in the US and then file I130. If the Canadian-born  fiancee comes and gets married here (enters via passport) within a short period of time (within a month of arrival), will that trigger the 90 day rule that the USCIS looks at for fraud? 

 

If I go to Canada and get married then file i130 when I get back to America,  does the 90 day rule still apply? 

Wait out the k1 visa. Anything else will take much longer if you cancel. If she enters and gets married after cancelling a k1...It would be hard to prove she didn't have the intention of marrying when entering. 

 

 

 

 
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Moved from Progress Reports to Process & Procedures.

Our journey:

Spoiler

September 2007: Met online via social networking site (MySpace); began exchanging messages.
March 26, 2009: We become a couple!
September 10, 2009: Arrived for first meeting in-person!
June 17, 2010: Arrived for second in-person meeting and start of travel together to other areas of China!
June 21, 2010: Engaged!!!
September 1, 2010: Switched course from K1 to CR-1
December 8, 2010: Wedding date set; it will be on February 18, 2011!
February 9, 2011: Depart for China
February 11, 2011: Registered for marriage in Wuhan, officially married!!!
February 18, 2011: Wedding ceremony in Shiyan!!!
April 22, 2011: Mailed I-130 to Chicago
April 28, 2011: Received NOA1 via text/email, file routed to CSC (priority date April 25th)
April 29, 2011: Updated
May 3, 2011: Received NOA1 hardcopy in mail
July 26, 2011: Received NOA2 via text/email!!!
July 30, 2011: Received NOA2 hardcopy in mail
August 8, 2011: NVC received file
September 1, 2011: NVC case number assigned
September 2, 2011: AOS invoice received, OPTIN email for EP sent
September 7, 2011: Paid AOS bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 9, 2011)
September 8, 2011: OPTIN email accepted, GZO number assigned
September 10, 2011: Emailed AOS package
September 12, 2011: IV bill invoiced
September 13, 2011: Paid IV bill (payment portal showed PAID on September 14, 2011)
September 14, 2011: Emailed IV package
October 3, 2011: Emailed checklist response (checklist generated due to typo on Form DS-230)
October 6, 2011: Case complete at NVC
November 10, 2011: Interview - APPROVED!!!
December 7, 2011: POE - Sea-Tac Airport

September 17, 2013: Mailed I-751 to CSC

September 23, 2013: Received NOA1 in mail (receipt date September 19th)

October 16, 2013: Biometrics Appointment

January 28, 2014: Production of new Green Card ordered

February 3, 2014: New Green Card received; done with USCIS until fall of 2023*

December 18, 2023:  Filed I-90 to renew Green Card

December 21, 2023:  Production of new Green Card ordered - will be seeing USCIS again every 10 years for renewal

 

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