FLASHBACK: That Time Obama Called Libya A ‘S**t Show’

[Merle 458]

19 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  You got it crooked as usual. Is it that difficult? A nation in civil war described as a s* show is not the same thing as saying someones country is a s* hole. The words actually have definitions you can look up. What Obama said means a situation or event marked by chaos or controversy. What Trump said means an extremely dirty, shabby, or otherwise unpleasant place. There's really no reason for anyone to be confused about this. It's one of those obvious blatant false equivalence's that really shouldn't have been missed.

 

I winder if Trump was refereing to India? 

[Steeleballz 7,550]

8 minutes ago, Merle said:

 

I winder if Trump was refereing to India? 

 

   I see very little reason to ponder what the idiot in chief is referring to any further than he already said. If there are merit's to that discussion, I'll leave that to the right. They enabled this behavior. Like the majority of people, I'd rather he just shut up and at learn the value of discretion that most stable geniuses should already know. 

 

 

[jg121783 3,921]

48 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  You got it crooked as usual. Is it that difficult? A nation in civil war described as a s* show is not the same thing as saying someones country is a s* hole. The words actually have definitions you can look up. What Obama said means a situation or event marked by chaos or controversy. What Trump said means an extremely dirty, shabby, or otherwise unpleasant place. There's really no reason for anyone to be confused about this. It's one of those obvious blatant false equivalence's that really shouldn't have been missed.

So if I came to your house and called your house and your family a s**t show would you be any less offended than if I called it a s**t hole. Let's put it a different way. What would offend you more? If I called your house and family a s**t show to your face or if your neighbor who has a reputation of trying to cause disputes between people told you they heard me call your house a s**t hole and I denied it?

[spookyturtle 9,466]

2 hours ago, jg121783 said:

So let me get this straight. Obama uses the word s**t to describe a nation and is recorded doing so but that is okay. Trump is accused with no evidence of using the word s**t to describe a nation and denies saying it and Trump is a grand dragon in the KKK. Like I said. If the left didn't have double standards they would have no standards at all.

Was Obama speaking in reference to immigrants from Libya when he made the remark?

[Steeleballz 7,550]

5 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

So if I came to your house and called your house and your family a s**t show would you be any less offended than if I called it a s**t hole. Let's put it a different way. What would offend you more? If I called your house and family a s**t show to your face or if your neighbor who has a reputation of trying to cause disputes between people told you they heard me call your house a s**t hole and I denied it?

 

     Comparing houses to nations is a false equivalence. Comparing yourself to the president is also. That was not a good analogy, but if my neighbor did tell me you said that, I'd advise him to stop listening to you and call the police immediately if he sees you loitering in our neighborhood again. 

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

OMG the desperation is like someone falling off a cliff grasping at a a twig on the way down.

[spookyturtle 9,466]

5 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

OMG the desperation is like someone falling off a cliff grasping at a a twig on the way down.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

36 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

So if I came to your house and called your house and your family a s**t show would you be any less offended than if I called it a s**t hole. Let's put it a different way. What would offend you more? If I called your house and family a s**t show to your face or if your neighbor who has a reputation of trying to cause disputes between people told you they heard me call your house a s**t hole and I denied it?

First of all Graham and Durbin both confirmed it so there is no denying he said it. Not only did they confirm it but set Trump straight right to his face.
Secondly, the difference between you coming to Steeleballz's house and calling them a ****hole would be very wrong. Now if he were in a huge fight with his wife, grabbing her by the ankles and swinging her through the air while she knocks him upside the head with a frying pan and the children were being traumatized then that would be a ****show.
One is people and a place, the other is a bad action being condemned as a ****show.
Got it ? 
 

[jg121783 3,921]

44 minutes ago, spookyturtle said:

Was Obama speaking in reference to immigrants from Libya when he made the remark?

The term s**t hole refers to a place. The term s**t show could be applied to people and places. We are however assuming Trump made that statement which has yet to be proven. Obama however is caught red handed as there is a recording of him saying it.

 

36 minutes ago, Steeleballz said:

 

     Comparing houses to nations is a false equivalence. Comparing yourself to the president is also. That was not a good analogy, but if my neighbor did tell me you said that, I'd advise him to stop listening to you and call the police immediately if he sees you loitering in our neighborhood again. 

I'm not comparing houses to nations. I am comparing s**t hole to s**t show. The question is simple. Would you be less offended if someone called your house a s**t show versus a s**t hole? As I have said though. There is no evidence that Trump actually said this. The left is just assuming (you know what they say about assuming) he did and building a race baiting narrative around an assumption. First pee pee gate. Now s**tgate. It's truly pathetic.

Edited January 13, 2018 by jg121783

[spookyturtle 9,466]

4 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

The term s**t hole refers to a place. The term s**t show could be applied to people and places. We are however assuming Trump made that statement which has yet to be proven. Obama however is caught red handed as there is a recording of him saying it.

 

I'm not comparing houses to nations. I am comparing s**t hole to s**t show. The question is simple. Would you be less offended if someone called your house a s**t show versus a s**t hole? As I have said though. There is no evidence that Trump actually said this. The left is just assuming (you know what they say about assuming) he did and building a race baiting narrative around an assumption. First pee pee gate. Now s**tgate. It's truly pathetic.

Wow! 

[Dashinka 24,786]

1 hour ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  It looks like hypocrisy if you miss the obvious. Two different event's. Two different words. Fortunately dictionaries are available, and I have clarified the misunderstanding for you in my previous post. 

Didn’t Haiti become a sh*&hole after the Clinton foundation got done with it?

[Dashinka 24,786]

40 minutes ago, Ebunoluwa said:

OMG the desperation is like someone falling off a cliff grasping at a a twig on the way down.

I agree, the separation of those driving in the MDL is amazing.  Open borders for all!

[spookyturtle 9,466]

3 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Didn’t Haiti become a sh*&hole after the Clinton foundation got done with it?

That justifies Trump's comment.

[Ebunoluwa 6,136]

2 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

I agree, the separation of those driving in the MDL is amazing.  Open borders for all!

Except no one here wants open borders. That's desperation not separation. Though the separation of many Republicans from Trump is also true.  

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

2 hours ago, Steeleballz said:

 

  You got it crooked as usual. Is it that difficult? A nation in civil war described as a s* show is not the same thing as saying someones country is a s* hole. The words actually have definitions you can look up. What Obama said means a situation or event marked by chaos or controversy. What Trump said means an extremely dirty, shabby, or otherwise unpleasant place. There's really no reason for anyone to be confused about this. It's one of those obvious blatant false equivalence's that really shouldn't have been missed.

Have you ever visited Haiti?  Or ever researched the country itself?  If you have, would you say Trump’s description is far off the mark?

 

(Could you point to it on a map without looking first?)