Dual Citizenship

[coa24 69]

So my daughter is a dual citizen. The report of birth filed with the embassy in Washington, D.C. and was officially transmitted on December 31, 2017 with the PSA. I had an immigration officer tell me that my daughter is not considered a dual citizen until she has her Philippine passport in hand, which I find quite dumb if true. It was my interpretation of Article IV of the Philippine constitution that my daughter is automatically a citizen because she was born to a Filipina citizen who never relinquished her citizenship. The officer stated I needed to get her the ACR and the visa ext. But I find what he is stating to be inaccurate since my daughters report of birth is in the system and she is a dual citizen. So is the immigration officer correct or is the constitution correct (filed via report of birth)? Do I need to extend her visa while waiting for the arrival of the PSA copy (her visa runs out on Feb. 9, the PSA copy comes on Feb. 7), or can I officially wait and get her Philippine passport? 

Edited January 12, 2018 by coa24

[Keith & Arileidi 437]

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Edited January 12, 2018 by Keith & Arileidi

[Cyberfx1024 7,980]

4 hours ago, coa24 said:

So my daughter is a dual citizen. The report of birth filed with the embassy in Washington, D.C. and was officially transmitted on December 31, 2017 with the PSA. I had an immigration officer tell me that my daughter is not considered a dual citizen until she has her Philippine passport in hand, which I find quite dumb if true. It was my interpretation of Article IV of the Philippine constitution that my daughter is automatically a citizen because she was born to a Filipina citizen who never relinquished her citizenship. The officer stated I needed to get her the ACR and the visa ext. But I find what he is stating to be inaccurate since my daughters report of birth is in the system and she is a dual citizen. So is the immigration officer correct or is the constitution correct (filed via report of birth)? Do I need to extend her visa while waiting for the arrival of the PSA copy (her visa runs out on Feb. 9, the PSA copy comes on Feb. 7), or can I officially wait and get her Philippine passport? 

If your asawa has done the paperwork and turned it in the consulate to affirm of birth abroad then you should be fine. We have the paperwork for our children as well. We will not get them actual passports until later.

[Ryan H 3,812]

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[payxibka 10,045]

7 hours ago, coa24 said:

So my daughter is a dual citizen. The report of birth filed with the embassy in Washington, D.C. and was officially transmitted on December 31, 2017 with the PSA. I had an immigration officer tell me that my daughter is not considered a dual citizen until she has her Philippine passport in hand, which I find quite dumb if true. It was my interpretation of Article IV of the Philippine constitution that my daughter is automatically a citizen because she was born to a Filipina citizen who never relinquished her citizenship. The officer stated I needed to get her the ACR and the visa ext. But I find what he is stating to be inaccurate since my daughters report of birth is in the system and she is a dual citizen. So is the immigration officer correct or is the constitution correct (filed via report of birth)? Do I need to extend her visa while waiting for the arrival of the PSA copy (her visa runs out on Feb. 9, the PSA copy comes on Feb. 7), or can I officially wait and get her Philippine passport? 

Did she enter the PI as a US Citizen on a US passport?

[Hank_ 9,174]

9 hours ago, coa24 said:

So my daughter is a dual citizen. The report of birth filed with the embassy in Washington, D.C. and was officially transmitted on December 31, 2017 with the PSA. I had an immigration officer tell me that my daughter is not considered a dual citizen until she has her Philippine passport in hand, which I find quite dumb if true. It was my interpretation of Article IV of the Philippine constitution that my daughter is automatically a citizen because she was born to a Filipina citizen who never relinquished her citizenship. The officer stated I needed to get her the ACR and the visa ext. But I find what he is stating to be inaccurate since my daughters report of birth is in the system and she is a dual citizen. So is the immigration officer correct or is the constitution correct (filed via report of birth)? Do I need to extend her visa while waiting for the arrival of the PSA copy (her visa runs out on Feb. 9, the PSA copy comes on Feb. 7), or can I officially wait and get her Philippine passport? 

Your daughter is a DUAL citizen, and you can acquire the PSA document showing this   BUT .. it is of no value for entering or exiting the Philippines as a citizen.. for that you do need the Philippine passport.   

 

Your daughter entered the Philippines using her U.S. passport, for all intents and purposes she is a U.S. citizen in the Philippines.   Acquiring the Philippine passport will cure your ills .. sort of.. until she enters the Philippines using her Philippine passport she is still a U.S. citizen .   But with the PSA document showing dual citizenship she (and you) should be able to avail the BB stamp at entry.     

 

I know nothing I said helped .. you still need to get her Philippine passport or renew her visa and get an ACR card for you both.

 

 ~  How are you doing?   This is a tough time for you I know... I do keep you in my thoughts.

[coa24 69]

Thanks, yes she came in on a US passport. So I am wondering if I should really do the ACR and extension even though as soon as I get the ROB on Feb. 7 I will file quickly for the Philippine passport. Her visa ends Feb. 9. It does answer the questions better ;).

[Hank_ 9,174]

8 hours ago, coa24 said:

Thanks, yes she came in on a US passport. So I am wondering if I should really do the ACR and extension even though as soon as I get the ROB on Feb. 7 I will file quickly for the Philippine passport. Her visa ends Feb. 9. It does answer the questions better ;).

Luckily for you, an appointment isn't needed at DFA because of the child's age.      (Fixers have destroyed the appointment system)

 

You went to PSA and requested her birth certificate or did you do complete the request online?

 

After the DFA appointment it is only a week or two before the passport arrives, then all that ACR and visa renewal is moot.

[coa24 69]

8 hours ago, Hank_ said:

Luckily for you, an appointment isn't needed at DFA because of the child's age.      (Fixers have destroyed the appointment system)

 

You went to PSA and requested her birth certificate or did you do complete the request online?

 

After the DFA appointment it is only a week or two before the passport arrives, then all that ACR and visa renewal is moot.

I went to the PSA and paid for the ROB, I had to call the consulate first to get the information to request. So the ROB will be released on Feb. 7-when I am able to pick up. I also will be order extra copies online, because the lady at PSA stated they were only allowed to release one copy and the rest had to be ordered online.

[Hank_ 9,174]

21 minutes ago, coa24 said:

I went to the PSA and paid for the ROB, I had to call the consulate first to get the information to request. So the ROB will be released on Feb. 7-when I am able to pick up. I also will be order extra copies online, because the lady at PSA stated they were only allowed to release one copy and the rest had to be ordered online.

Ah you didn't have the file/book/record numbers.   I luckily had that info when we requested copies of our ROM, went to PSA over by MOA got the documents in about an hour.    ... welcome to the Philippines.

 

Now that is crazy that they were only able to release one copy.