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Hi everyone,

 

I got my citizenship in 2012 and I have applied for immigration for my father last year. He just arrived to the US and I wanted to know more about what are the benefits that he is eligible to when he receives his green card?

After receiving the green card, can he apply for social security, medicare and so on of other benefits?

Thank you for your answers and let me know if more information is needed to answer this question accurately if I didn't provide enough info.

 

Posted
25 minutes ago, M&E2008 said:

Hi everyone,

 

I got my citizenship in 2012 and I have applied for immigration for my father last year. He just arrived to the US and I wanted to know more about what are the benefits that he is eligible to when he receives his green card?

After receiving the green card, can he apply for social security, medicare and so on of other benefits?

Thank you for your answers and let me know if more information is needed to answer this question accurately if I didn't provide enough info.

 

Benefits:

Live permanently in the US. 

Ability to work in the US. 

Able to travel overseas on short visits and reenter the US using LPR status. 

I-751 journey

 

10/16/2017.......... ROC package mailed

10/18/2017.......... I-751 package received VSC

10/19/2017.......... I-797 NOA date

10/30/2017.......... Notice received in mail

10/30/2017.......... Check cashed

11/02/2017.......... Conditional GC expired

11/22/2017.......... Biometrics completed

  xx/xx/xxxx.......... waiting waiting waiting

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Italy
Timeline
Posted

This should help.

 

https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/public-charge

 

Most benefits are available.

AOS:

RD: 6/21/06

Biometrics: 7/25/06

ID: 10/24/06 - Approved

Conditional GC Received: 11/3/06

I-751

RD: 7/31/08

NOA 1: 8/6/08

Biometrics: 8/26/08

Transferred to CSC: 2/25/09

Approved: 4/23/09 (email received)

Card mailed: 4/28/09 (email received)

Card Received: 5/1/09

N-400

RD & PD: 7/28/09

NOA 1: 8/1/09

Biometric appt: 8/12/09

Interview Letter received: 10/02/09 (notice dated 09/29)

Interview Date: 11/10/09 at Federal Plaza in Manhattan

Oath Letter: 11/10/09

Oath Date: 11/13/09 - Special ceremony at USS Intrepid - Done - USC

Filed: IR-1/CR-1 Visa Country: Mexico
Timeline
Posted

You might want to read the conditions in affidavit of support

 

LPR and citizen are two totally different levels

CR-1 Visa

Service Center: Nebraska    Consulate: Mexico

Marriage: 12/9/2016    I-130 Sent: 12/10/2016    I-130 NOA1: 12/13/2016

Notice from USCIS: 8/23/2017

USCIS Approval Date: 8/21/2017

NOA2 issued date: 8/18/2017   NOA2 hardcopy received: 8/25/2017

Notice from USCIS Sent to NVC: 9/1/2017    NVC received: 9/8/2017

Received case and invoice numbers: 9/12/2017

Choice of Agent DS-261: 9/12/2017

Welcome Letter: 9/15/2017

Received and Paid AOS: 9/15/2017    AOS payment cleared my bank: 9/19/2017 (still shows In Process on CEAC)

Received and paid IV bill: 9/19/2017    IV bill cleared bank: 9/21/2017

Requested Expedite: 9/20/2017

AOS and IV show as paid: 9/23/2017

DS260 unlocked: 9/23/2017

Partial Expedite Approved at Counselor Level: 9/25/2017 (Must still wait out NVC)

Scan Date: 10/2/2017    Case Complete: 11/15/2017 (6 weeks 2 days!)

Case sent to consulate: 11/20/2017     Received by consulate: 11/21/2017 (11/20 was a holiday in Mexico)

Interview Scheduled: Jan 2nd - I managed to get someones canceled appointment the very same day my case status turned to Ready.

Biometrics: Mexico City Dec 27th Medical: Mexico City Dec 28th

Case says READY but consulate says case is not in system, I jumped the gun and booked an interview but they say its invalid until I receive the letter so I might have to cancel it.

Appointment Letter: Flew to Juarez just to get this, its actually 2 letters you need.

Interview Day: Jan 2nd   Interview Result: APPROVED

Tracking Number Received: Via email notice and website the afternoon of Jan 4th    Visa Delivered: Friday Jan 5th Mexico City

USCIS Notice - Green Card mailed: 3/28/18

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
Timeline
Posted

"Medicare Insurance for Green Card Holders (Permanent Residents) in USA. ... A US citizen or legal permanent resident aged 65 years or older usually qualify forMedicare. One of the eligibility criteria is that the person or spouse must have worked in the US and paid Medicare taxes for minimum 40 quarters."

 

"The Social Security system functions on a fundamentally simple principle: As you work in the country, you pay Social Security taxes, which in turn earns you social security credits. You can earn maximum up to 4 credits in a year. As of 2013, Permanent Residents or Green Card Holders need $1160 of earnings to get 1 credit. Green Card Holders need 40 credits(equivalent to 10 years of work or 40 quarters) to be eligible for Social Security Benefits."

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
Timeline
Posted
2 minutes ago, Italian_in_NYC said:

This should help.

 

https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/public-charge

 

Most benefits are available.

NO Social Security

No Medicare

Those are the big ones.

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Filed: Citizen (pnd) Country: Italy
Timeline
Posted
5 minutes ago, missileman said:

NO Social Security

No Medicare

Those are the big ones.

If the other country has a totalization agreement with the US, you could unify the credits and apply for social security (or the other way around with the other country). Social security is a contributive system, so it is based on what you put in.

You can apply for medicare after 5 years (if you are age 65 or older). If you didn't pay in enough, you'd have to pay both part A and part B.

 

Other than that, public charge basically consists of cash benefits (and long-term care, i.e. nursing home).

AOS:

RD: 6/21/06

Biometrics: 7/25/06

ID: 10/24/06 - Approved

Conditional GC Received: 11/3/06

I-751

RD: 7/31/08

NOA 1: 8/6/08

Biometrics: 8/26/08

Transferred to CSC: 2/25/09

Approved: 4/23/09 (email received)

Card mailed: 4/28/09 (email received)

Card Received: 5/1/09

N-400

RD & PD: 7/28/09

NOA 1: 8/1/09

Biometric appt: 8/12/09

Interview Letter received: 10/02/09 (notice dated 09/29)

Interview Date: 11/10/09 at Federal Plaza in Manhattan

Oath Letter: 11/10/09

Oath Date: 11/13/09 - Special ceremony at USS Intrepid - Done - USC

Filed: Citizen (apr) Country: Taiwan
Timeline
Posted
2 minutes ago, Italian_in_NYC said:

If the other country has a totalization agreement with the US, you could unify the credits and apply for social security (or the other way around with the other country). Social security is a contributive system, so it is based on what you put in.

You can apply for medicare after 5 years (if you are age 65 or older). If you didn't pay in enough, you'd have to pay both part A and part B.

 

Other than that, public charge basically consists of cash benefits (and long-term care, i.e. nursing home).

Where did "public charge" come into the conversation?

"The US immigration process requires a great deal of knowledge, planning, time, patience, and a significant amount of money.  It is quite a journey!"

- Some old child of the 50's & 60's on his laptop 

 

Senior Master Sergeant, US Air Force- Retired (after 20+ years)- Missile Systems Maintenance & Titan 2 ICBM Launch Crew Duty (200+ Alert tours)

Registered Nurse- Retired- I practiced in the areas of Labor & Delivery, Home Health, Adolescent Psych, & Adult Psych.

IT Professional- Retired- Web Site Design, Hardware Maintenance, Compound Pharmacy Software Trainer, On-site go live support, Database Manager, App Designer.

______________________________________

In summary, it took 13 months for approval of the CR-1.  It took 44 months for approval of the I-751.  It took 4 months for approval of the N-400.   It took 172 days from N-400 application to Oath Ceremony.   It took 6 weeks for Passport, then 7 additional weeks for return of wife's Naturalization Certificate.. 
 

Posted

So, social security for a retired immigrant is not offered unless they work for at least a year meeting the criteria set, and same applies for medicare. 

Now, after he gets his citizenship, what is he eligible for, then? Because, after citizenship is received my sponsorship falls.

 

Posted (edited)
48 minutes ago, M&E2008 said:

So, social security for a retired immigrant is not offered unless they work for at least a year meeting the criteria set, and same applies for medicare. 

Now, after he gets his citizenship, what is he eligible for, then? Because, after citizenship is received my sponsorship falls.

 

No social security until he works 10 years  (technically 40 fiscal quarters) in this country, this is the same for everyone, immigrant or not. Medicare after 5 years if you want to pay for both parts A and B or after working for 10 years. There is no free lunch here. Wrong country to immigrate to looking for public benefits.

 

Also, he may never get citizenship. And your sponsorship lasts until he works 40 fiscal quarters (there's a reason for that, see above), so if he never works and never becomes a citizen, your sponsorship never ends.

 

 

Edited by CatherineA

Marriage/ AOS Timeline:

23 Dec 2015: Legal marriage

23 Jan 2016: Wedding!

23 Jan 2016: "Blizzard of the Century", wedding canceled/rescheduled (thank goodness we were legally married first or we'd have had a big problem!) :sleepy:

24 Jan 2016: Small "civil ceremony" with friends and family who were snowed in with us. December was a bit of a secret and people had traveled internationally and knew we *had* to get married that weekend, and our December legal marriage was nothing but signing a piece of paper at our priest's kitchen table, without any sort of vows etc so this was actually a very special (if not legally significant) day. (L)

16 Apr 2016: Filed for AOS and EAD/AP (We delayed a bit-- no big rush, enjoying the USCIS break)

23 Apr 2016: Wedding! Finally! :luv:

27 Apr 2016: Electronic NOA1 for all 3 :dancing:
29 Apr 2016: NOA1 Hardcopy for all 3
29 Jul 2016: Online service request for late EAD (Day 104)
29 Jul 2016: EAD/AP Approved ~3 hours after online service request
04 Aug 2016: RFE for Green Card (requested medicals/ vaccination record. They already have it). :ranting:
05 Aug 2016: EAD/AP Combo Card arrived! (Day 111)
08 Aug 2016: Congressional constituent request to get guidance on the RFE. Hoping they see they have the form and approve!

K-1 Visa Timeline:

PLEASE NOTE. This timeline was during the period of time when TSC was working on I-129fs and had a huge backlog. The average processing time was 210+ days. This is in no way predictive of your own timeline if you filed during or after April 2015, unless CSC develops a backlog. A backlog is anything above the 5-month goal time listed on USCIS's site

14 Feb 2015: Mailed I-129f to Dallas Lockbox. (L) (Most expensive Valentine's card I've ever sent!)

17 Feb 2015: NOA1 "Received Date"
19 Feb 2015: NOA1 Notice Date
08 Aug 2015: NOA2 email! :luv: (173 days from NOA1)

17 Aug 2015: Sent to NVC

?? Aug 2015: Arrived at NVC

25 Aug 2015: NVC Case # Assigned

31 Aug 2015: Left NVC for Consulate in San Jose

09 Sep 2015: Consulate received :dancing: (32 days from NOA2)

11 Sep 2015: Packet 3 emailed from embassy to me, the petitioner (34 days from NOA2).

18 Sep 2015: Medicals complete

21 Sep 2015: Packet 3 complete, my boss puts a temporary moratorium on all time off due to work emergency :clock:

02 Oct 2015: Work emergency clears up, interview scheduled (soonest available was 5 business days away--Columbus Day was in there)

13 Oct 2015: Interview

13 Oct 2015: VISA APPROVED :thumbs: (236 days from NOA1)

19 Oct 2015: Visa-in-hand

24 Oct 2015: POE !

15 Dec 2015: Fiance's mother's B-2 visa interview: APPROVED! So happy she will be at the wedding! :thumbs:

!

Filed: K-1 Visa Country: Wales
Timeline
Posted

You can buy into Medicare if you have not out in the years, c$400 a month, exact figure now does not matter as it will be 5 years before you can do so. And I think a penalty if you do not take it at 65.

 

Is this not something you consider before moving countries?   Obviously needs to have his finances in shape.

 

Also you are not required to Naturalise so the I 864 could be valid until death.

“If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

Posted

Thank you everyone, now I understand how it works.

Regarding some of the comments that focused about me being stuck taking care of my father's expenses and that is my future, I would be more than happy to do that (I didn't ask for your opinion, I only asked for accurate info if you want to help).  And comments stating going to another country that offers these benefits (that is actually none of your business what I do but thank you for your enlightening  information).

Again, thank you everyone who actually cared about answering the question with no offending or judgmental comments.

 

 

 
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