Farmers' markets a racially biased cause of 'environmental gentrification,' professors say

[yuna628 9,676]

1 hour ago, -Trinity- said:

I don't know if this is considered off topic, but since it's about Farmers Markets, I have a question to ask to y'all:

 

If you buy jams at one if the Farmers Markets, what would you consider a reasonable price for an 8 oz jar?

 

*Mod, please don't kick me out*

For a half pint? I'd say about $3-4 depending on the kind of jam. Jams at KKVillage in PA, usually go around $4, but that is a type of commercial operation now. The Mennonite market stand in town has some for $2-3. Willey's Farmer's Market in DE is about that much. Kauffman's fruit farm market jams are also pricey.

 

My husband reminded me that there are CSA type farmer's markets in town, where you pre-pay the farmer a lump sum for the year up front, and receive premium crops.

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3 hours ago, -Trinity- said:

I don't know if this is considered off topic, but since it's about Farmers Markets, I have a question to ask to y'all:

 

If you buy jams at one if the Farmers Markets, what would you consider a reasonable price for an 8 oz jar?

 

*Mod, please don't kick me out*

My wife loves black currant jam and we usually find 8 ox jars for a little less than $4 at the Polish market.

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12 hours ago, yuna628 said:

For a half pint? I'd say about $3-4 depending on the kind of jam. Jams at KKVillage in PA, usually go around $4, but that is a type of commercial operation now. The Mennonite market stand in town has some for $2-3. Willey's Farmer's Market in DE is about that much. Kauffman's fruit farm market jams are also pricey.

 

My husband reminded me that there are CSA type farmer's markets in town, where you pre-pay the farmer a lump sum for the year up front, and receive premium crops.

 

10 hours ago, Bill & Katya said:

My wife loves black currant jam and we usually find 8 ox jars for a little less than $4 at the Polish market.

I must be living in a very expensive area, here jams are  $ 6-8. I thought that was a ridiculous price, but my husband thinks otherwise.
They are not the regular strawberry/blueberry jams etc. though, the one we bought was blueberry-lavender. I love black currant too, its one of my favourite jams. They also had a black currant//bourbon.

[yuna628 9,676]

39 minutes ago, -Trinity- said:

 

I must be living in a very expensive area, here jams are  $ 6-8. I thought that was a ridiculous price, but my husband thinks otherwise.
They are not the regular strawberry/blueberry jams etc. though, the one we bought was blueberry-lavender. I love black currant too, its one of my favourite jams. They also had a black currant//bourbon.

I'd say jams that are harder to come by... like fig or elderberry might sometimes approach $6-8, usually in a larger jar too. I can even go order a local blackcurrant jam from the UK for about $3.75. Artisan jams that you can get from wineries and specialty infused floral jams (there's some fantastic ones on the west coast) can be very expensive. You could always be adventurous and can your own.

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36 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

I'd say jams that are harder to come by... like fig or elderberry might sometimes approach $6-8, usually in a larger jar too. I can even go order a local blackcurrant jam from the UK for about $3.75. Artisan jams that you can get from wineries and specialty infused floral jams (there's some fantastic ones on the west coast) can be very expensive. You could always be adventurous and can your own.

Uhm, yeah...I will save myself a headache. I once made marmalade when I was 11/12 years old and I don't think that turned out well.
I love freshly picked fig, but I never liked dry fig so I'm not sure if I will like the jam too. Dried figs have an aftertaste I don't like.

 

What was this topic about again? 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 minute ago, -Trinity- said:

Uhm, yeah...I will save myself a headache. I once made marmalade when I was 11/12 years old and I don't think that turned out well.
I love freshly picked fig, but I never liked dry fig so I'm not sure if I will like the jam too. Dried figs have an aftertaste I don't like.

 

What was this topic about again? 

It was about crazy snowflakes with everything is racism syndrome, but has somehow descended into the Betty Crocker /Mr. Rogers neighbors show, with a side  dose of Barney I love you you love me.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

It was about crazy snowflakes with everything is racism syndrome, but has somehow descended into the Betty Crocker /Mr. Rogers neighbors show, with a side  dose of Barney I love you you love me.

 

 

Aww..i'm sorry...no talking about jams anymore.

Strolling on the farmers market this week, I noticed all kinds of different people. heck, I even met a Belgian soap seller.

That made me feel like I was home until I realized he was from the French-speaking part and didn't understand a word of what I was saying.

 

I haven't read the article, to be honest, I only got triggered by farmers market, that where I stopped reading.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 minute ago, -Trinity- said:

Aww..i'm sorry...no talking about jams anymore.

Strolling on the farmers market this week, I noticed all kinds of different people. heck, I even met a Belgian soap seller.

That made me feel like I was home until I realized he was from the French-speaking part and didn't understand a word of what I was saying.

 

I haven't read the article, to be honest, I only got triggered by farmers market, that where I stopped reading.

Feel free to keep talking about Jams.  A farmers market to me, is where farmers came to sell their goods. Now its basically produce dealers etc.

 

The Big Farmers market in the ATL my wife likes to go to is not really a farmers market but an international Super Market. 

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7 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

Feel free to keep talking about Jams.  A farmers market to me, is where farmers came to sell their goods. Now its basically produce dealers etc.

 

The Big Farmers market in the ATL my wife likes to go to is not really a farmers market but an international Super Market. 

Thank you

 

I think that's why I was slightly disappointed, it wasn't the farmers market I had in mind at all. It looked more like they went that morning to a produce wholesale to buy their stuff.
I wish we had an international supermarket here where we live, those places are great especially if you like different kinds of spices and food.

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I like www.farmersonly.com

 

Does that count?

 

I have noticed that their adverts are not that diverse.

[bcking 3,157]

7 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I like www.farmersonly.com

 

Does that count?

 

I have noticed that their adverts are not that diverse.

That url looks like it would be an online dating site for farmers. Or some farmer fetish stuff. It's also suspiciously blocked by my work...

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9 minutes ago, Boiler said:

I like www.farmersonly.com

 

Does that count?

 

I have noticed that their adverts are not that diverse.

I don't think polygamy is legal in America.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

I had to go back and re-read the OP and the article attached.  So much whining over what has been the norm for hundreds of years.  People move into an area, prices go up over time.  Pretty soon, only the rich can survive there, so the poor migrate elsewhere.  After the prices get TOO high, no one wants to live there, so many more move.   The middle-income folks move to where the poor are already established, prices go up, the poor have to move...  and so the cycle continues.

 

The biggest difference today is that people don’t usually travel to where the poor are and kill them in order to take over their land.

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1 hour ago, IDWAF said:

I had to go back and re-read the OP and the article attached.  So much whining over what has been the norm for hundreds of years.  People move into an area, prices go up over time.  Pretty soon, only the rich can survive there, so the poor migrate elsewhere.  After the prices get TOO high, no one wants to live there, so many more move.   The middle-income folks move to where the poor are already established, prices go up, the poor have to move...  and so the cycle continues.

 

 

 

Agreed.

However, what I've noticed and not sure that's just the area we live, is that fresh produce and healthy food is insanely expensive. 
I'm talking about an area with people with low income and on government support.
It's cheaper to get a meal from one of the fast-food restaurants. I assume a lot of people think the same..based on the number of obese people I spot on a daily base.

I don't agree with the article, but something is out of balance  imho

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

6 hours ago, -Trinity- said:

Agreed.

However, what I've noticed and not sure that's just the area we live, is that fresh produce and healthy food is insanely expensive. 
I'm talking about an area with people with low income and on government support.
It's cheaper to get a meal from one of the fast-food restaurants. I assume a lot of people think the same..based on the number of obese people I spot on a daily base.

I don't agree with the article, but something is out of balance  imho

You are correct.  The prices charged for veggies are bad enough.  But to buy into the hype of “organic”... I think it crazy.

 

50 years ago (maybe a a bit less) there were more farmers out there, producing.  But as with everything else, soon it became not profitable as other food sources (processed foods) became cheaper.  And small farmers were squeezed out of business, as they could not afford to make a living farming.  So only big farms survived.  Then they struggled, and the government subsidized them.  Today, I think farming is a very unprofitable business.  So people do other things.  However, food is not just a commodity, it is a necessity.

 

I enjoy growing things, so do a tiny bit of “farming” here on my own.  Not enough to sustain myself, of course, but I can drastically offset the cost of expensive veggies and other produce if I try.  But farming as a whole has become a niche business, I think, and we are now paying the price for it.  Literally.