Renew tourist visa....fiance... sticky situation. Contact embassy? Need advice

[Boiler 46,102]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/laura-plummer-uk-tourist-egypt-prison-painkillers-carry-name-of-prison-and-location-a8130376.html

 

This is a story all over the UK media currently, very little sympathy out there for her, but there is a sort of comparison.

[Orangesapples 1,954]

I'm sorry you're hurting. This man is using you. He's treating you like his mistress. You deserve better. Email the consulate and block him everywhere. Start meeting other men and stay away from anyone who is not single and available. Life is too short to waste feelings on someone who is not worth it. Only men who make you a priority and commit to you are worth your time. Cut all the others loose. 

[TNJ17 1,329]

58 minutes ago, Boiler said:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/laura-plummer-uk-tourist-egypt-prison-painkillers-carry-name-of-prison-and-location-a8130376.html

 

This is a story all over the UK media currently, very little sympathy out there for her, but there is a sort of comparison.

Sorry but I have no sympathy for that person. How could you be that naive to take prescription painkillers not for personal to a country like that?!?! Also, she claims her partner is from there, so when you have a strong tie to another country you need to familiarize yourself with their laws. Like come on, that’s common sense. Even when you only go to a foreign country once, you need to familiarize yourself with their laws. Every country is different. 

[Beth & Achraf 328]

Where is he from?  You mentioned you and him had a informal wedding?  Was it an Orfi Marriage?

 Orfi marriages mean nothing, but able to stay together in same flat, house without breaking the "law" . They hold no weight in a court.

If he is causing so much stress where your health is effected, what would it be if he was actually here full time?,  And if he ever does divorce his wife,  make sure it is a Irrevocable Divorce, otherwise USCIS wont accept any other divorce certificates from him on his divorce.   Your story is way to familiar to me.  Feel free to PM me .

 

 

[caliliving 606]

He is not going to divorce his wife....Like, ever!!!

 

If you want to keep living the way you are then continue.

 

If not, move on! Cut off communication and end all ties with him. What he does at his immigration visa has no bearing on y iu! Just worry about finding and fixing your own happiness in your life. 

 

[andy78 178]

So the short version of the story is, you are married to a guy who is not interested in you and is using you because he thinks that being connected to you somehow makes it easier for him to be in the US once a year and you help him with his tourist visa application. Oh and by the way he is married to someone else too.

 

With regards to the tourist visa, he can apply for a tourist visa and visit the US if he gets it, for tourism purposes, as he does now. This has nothing to do with you and you have no control over it.  He cannot "go behind your back" because you have nothing to do with it to begin with.

 

With regards to divorcing him (if you are married), do you have a document that shows the type of marriage or what stage of marriage you are in with him? This may not be a problem for him but could be a problem for you (when you decide to get married to someone else) since bigamy is illegal in the US.  The so-called "Orfi marriage" in Islamic countries can be legalized in court if he has a signed document and depending on the laws of the country he is in. Even if it's only the first stage of Islamic marriage it has to be ended legally through divorce.

 

What you need to do (perhaps with the help of an attorney in the US who can handle this type of situation) are two things:

1. Determine whether you are considered legally married or not in the country of your "husband".

2. If you are married, go through the necessary divorce steps.

 

 

Edited December 28, 2017 by andy78

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

6 hours ago, Boiler said:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/laura-plummer-uk-tourist-egypt-prison-painkillers-carry-name-of-prison-and-location-a8130376.html

 

This is a story all over the UK media currently, very little sympathy out there for her, but there is a sort of comparison.

What’s the comparison? She had THREE HUNDRED prescription, class C painkillers that are legally only  available on prescription to the person they are prescribed for. Who gets prescribed 300 painkillers? And of you are really that bad you don’t go handing them over to someone else. You really think she got those from a doctor? Her claims of innocence imo are totally bogus. Nothing to do with the OP’s situation. 

Edited December 28, 2017 by SusieQQQ

[SusieQQQ 11,587]

By the way I don’t really agree with those who are telling this OP to contact the embassy, despite the satisfaction of doing so, simply because then the temptation is to stay in contact with the “fiancé” to find out if it worked, etc. Best for her to cut him loose totally and move on.

[LionessDeon 2,060]

End this relationship.

Cut off all contact.

His B1/B2 renewal, non renewal, attempt at renewal doesn't concern you.  Stay out of it.

Do your best to forget him and please dear move on.  Life is WAY TOO SHORT to spend anymore wasted years on this never ending nonsense.

[Kensie05 0]

On 12/28/2017 at 9:32 AM, Beth & Achraf said:

Where is he from?  You mentioned you and him had a informal wedding?  Was it an Orfi Marriage?

 Orfi marriages mean nothing, but able to stay together in same flat, house without breaking the "law" . They hold no weight in a court.

If he is causing so much stress where your health is effected, what would it be if he was actually here full time?,  And if he ever does divorce his wife,  make sure it is a Irrevocable Divorce, otherwise USCIS wont accept any other divorce certificates from him on his divorce.   Your story is way to familiar to me.  Feel free to PM me .

 

 

I dont know if its orfi. Its was a small ceremony at a mosque where there was an imam and an office and he had a form contract and wanted passport pictures and had witnesses sign and the imam did the papers and all signed. It was in Egypt. There were 2 ink copies and our fingerprints and I got both copies with me. I cant read arabic. The imam said I can go to register them in the place where they record docs for the country but I havent because honestly at the time I was more focused on an upcoming normal American process of filing, planning a marriage, filing in a county courthouse for a cert & a normal ceremony with friends & fam back home and going that route. 

[Kensie05 0]

On 12/28/2017 at 10:18 AM, andy78 said:

So the short version of the story is, you are married to a guy who is not interested in you and is using you because he thinks that being connected to you somehow makes it easier for him to be in the US once a year and you help him with his tourist visa application. Oh and by the way he is married to someone else too.

 

With regards to the tourist visa, he can apply for a tourist visa and visit the US if he gets it, for tourism purposes, as he does now. This has nothing to do with you and you have no control over it.  He cannot "go behind your back" because you have nothing to do with it to begin with.

 

With regards to divorcing him (if you are married), do you have a document that shows the type of marriage or what stage of marriage you are in with him? This may not be a problem for him but could be a problem for you (when you decide to get married to someone else) since bigamy is illegal in the US.  The so-called "Orfi marriage" in Islamic countries can be legalized in court if he has a signed document and depending on the laws of the country he is in. Even if it's only the first stage of Islamic marriage it has to be ended legally through divorce.

 

What you need to do (perhaps with the help of an attorney in the US who can handle this type of situation) are two things:

1. Determine whether you are considered legally married or not in the country of your "husband".

2. If you are married, go through the necessary divorce steps.

 

 

Is this considered orfi? ... what I wrote "dont know if its orfi. Its was a small ceremony at a mosque where there was an imam and an office and he had a form contract and wanted passport pictures and had witnesses sign and the imam did the papers and all signed. It was in Egypt. There were 2 ink copies and our fingerprints and I got both copies with me. I cant read arabic. The imam said I can go to register them in the place where they record docs for the country but I havent because honestly at the time I was more focused on an upcoming normal American process of filing, planning a marriage, filing in a county courthouse for a cert & a normal ceremony with friends & fam back home and going that route." 

[Lemonslice 4,968]

12 minutes ago, Kensie05 said:

I dont know if its orfi. Its was a small ceremony at a mosque where there was an imam and an office and he had a form contract and wanted passport pictures and had witnesses sign and the imam did the papers and all signed. It was in Egypt. There were 2 ink copies and our fingerprints and I got both copies with me. I cant read arabic. The imam said I can go to register them in the place where they record docs for the country but I havent because honestly at the time I was more focused on an upcoming normal American process of filing, planning a marriage, filing in a county courthouse for a cert & a normal ceremony with friends & fam back home and going that route. 

Maybe you should look into what you signed there... no one here can guess. 

[Kensie05 0]

On 12/27/2017 at 8:32 PM, JFH said:

He won't be renewing his tourist visa. It'll be a new application. He will have to complete the form from scratch. If he chooses to lie about his employment situation or living arrangements, that's up to him. The form does ask about family members in the USA. He can legitimately answer "no" to this as you are not in any formal or legal relationship. Engaged is not a legal status. In answer to an earlier question, yes, you can be engaged whilst married to someone else since engaged is just a promise to marry. It's not legally binding. 

  

Calling the embassy will do no good. You cannot influence his visa application. You will just look like a neurotic spurned lover. They do not act on such phone calls. Otherwise exes all over the world will be on the phones to the various embsssies trying to stop former partners from traveling, just out of spite. 

 

Ask yourself what you actually get from this relationship. I think you know the answer already. I'd move on if I were you. Plenty of other fish in the sea. 

Thanks & considering all points. Question though...So a renewal of a visitors visa is basically filling out the full application from scratch? Are you sure about this?

[caliliving 606]

7 minutes ago, Kensie05 said:

Thanks & considering all points. Question though...So a renewal of a visitors visa is basically filling out the full application from scratch? Are you sure about this?

Yes no such thing as a renewal. It's a new application 

[Kensie05 0]

11 minutes ago, Lemonslice said:

Maybe you should look into what you signed there... no one here can guess. 

Actually they may be able to especially if they have gone through it. From what I understand the paper title would not say "orfi". The islamic religious paper can be a standard marriage form document and the parties interpret it and officially record it or not. I asked because it seems a few others that responded on here asked me & have some specific knowledge of what is typical in an orfi process vs recorded vs official marriage/divorce. Thats why I wrote initially "engagement/informal marriage" because I didnt formally register it there.