Not sure where to post - ESTA revocation

[CadillacGirl_1966 0]

The plan now is I go to see him in february for a couple weeks. We will make sure we same everything like boarding pass and reciepts and take lots of pics to be able to fulfill the proof of relationship requirement. But we have all that from last time he was here except I dont think he saved his boarding pass. We have pics and videos and all that... even my friend filmed the proposal which was just supposed to be a video of our reunion but turned into a proposal vid. We have plenty of proof we are real... Am I able to sponsor him? Thats another question. We'll see.. I hope you guys are right. I just dont want the esta to have been taken for a reason that will hurt us later on ya know?

[Boiler 45,571]

Sounds like his past travel history, if he has no money how come he could stay so long?

 

Most people DIY, certainly on here, it is not that difficult if you put the time in.

[CadillacGirl_1966 0]

Well when he was here in september he had a work visa, a P1. Before when he was staying at 90 day stretches he would obviously have made money before he left.  Otherwise I'm assuming they wouldnt have let him in. Honestly I think you are righ about the travel patterns. They probably just want him to get a regular B2. He's freaking out about it though, he's very sad because of the timing. I'm trying to be strong about it but it's hard. I am going to get together everything I can in order to file the K1 as soon as I get back from visiting him in febuary. We want to be able to spend next christmas together here. I'm getting a printer/scanner just to make things easier. I hope the process will go smoothly as we have decided not to go the lawyer route now. It puts a lot less pressure on us financially as the one we had wanted $5500 to help us with the k1!

[mindthegap 2,590]

Has he actually checked online at the current ESTA status? Link HERE

 

CBP officers can - and do - lie.

 

 

Edited December 25, 2017 by mindthegap

[yuna628 9,677]

I don't think the officer would be lying here.. more like a misunderstanding by the gentleman or mis-statement on the part of the officer. If he was bounced at the border, then yes the ESTA could no longer be used as it goes hand in hands with the VWP. The ESTA gets him on the plane, the VWP gives him the visa-free visit. To be fair though, perhaps Boiler could answer this question -- if he already had a work visa, would this not sort of already revoke the VWP anyway? Like if you just decided to get a B2, would you be able to randomly use the VWP in tandem or does one privilege erase the other? Perhaps this was how the officer looked at it? Isn't it like if you had a K1 or spousal, you wouldn't be able to use the VWP anymore either?

 

At any rate -- there shouldn't be any reason why the couple shouldn't be able to apply for a K1 or spousal if they want it.

[Boiler 45,571]

No limit to the number of visa's you can have, the P1 covered activities not permitted by the VWP.

 

Common when bounced to tell someone you can apply for a B, of course you can, getting one is another issue.

[CadillacGirl_1966 0]

The P1 was already expired when he went to come back into the states. It was only for that one time he was here in september.

 

I will have to go visit now that  his ESTA was taken away. We probably wont get a B2 and I really dont want to bother applying and then being denied. Thing is, what do I tell the british boarder? If I tell them I am coming to visit my fiance, are they going to freak out? 

 

Our plan for february is for me to come visit for like a week. I would fly into manchester and we would stay in a hotel a couple of nights. Then he wants us to go see his friends in amsterdam and stay with them like the rest of the time. Are they gonna give me a problem if I have a flight out of there instead of out of manchester back home? Should I come back on the ferry to fly out of manchester? Will they give me a problem on the ferry going over to another country while I'm there? I know the laws are changing fast and I havent been over there since 2011...

Edited December 25, 2017 by CadillacGirl_1966

[Boiler 45,571]

You will not be the first visiting their fiancee.

Edited December 25, 2017 by Boiler

[mindthegap 2,590]

9 hours ago, Boiler said:

You will not be the first visiting their fiancee.

Nor to ignore pertinent questions from people trying to help...

[CadillacGirl_1966 0]

What questions have I ignored? 

[CadillacGirl_1966 0]

oh I see it now. You know since this has happened I've been running around like a chicken with its head cut off trying to figure this out so missing your question wasnt on purpose. I didnt ignore it. 

 

Yes he has checked his esta status over and over again. No change. Someone had posted somewhere about reapplying after 10 days but if the situation had not changed it probably wouldnt go though. His friend suggested he try getting another passport and applying then, but I dont think that is a very good idea at all.

 

We looked into several options. With the CR-1 we'd have to get married first and I would have to either get a marriage visitor's visa to the UK which I'm told is difficult (and I would have to wait months and visit twice to get) or get married in mexico which would cost us quite a lot. The CR-1 was attractive to us because we didnt want to have to wait for him to be able to work/leave the country after getting married. I was not aware until yesterday that he could apply for an EAD and advance parole. Since he is a musician his livlihood depends on him being able to tour europe and play shows. But if we had to he could just work in the US until we get AOS for him.

 

So after going back and forth about our options for quite a few days now we've settled on the K1 because I'd like to have a nice, unrushed wedding that my family can come to. It may take longer in the long run but we really just want to be together in any way we can. I know it's going to be tough with the details. We were together from 2009-2012 and then split up. We will have to explain that.. and why we got engaged so quickly after reconnecting after only 3 weeks. We will have to explain the age gap (he's 26 years older than me). We have a huge uphill battle. I came here to get help and answers. I've never done this before so its a huge learning curve. 

 

He's still going to fill out the redress form for the esta thing. We dont expect a response. 

[Boiler 45,571]

I did the K1, it is a bit quicker now, the pain in the but is waiting for the EAD but may not be an issue in his case. And seems he was able to spend frequent 90 days visiting the US before.

 

London is pretty easy, not likely any of the issues you are concerned about will arise.

 

You have known each other for nearly 10 years

 

 

[CadillacGirl_1966 0]

Yes we have. But we were not together for 5 of those years.  Wont they ask what happened in between that time? For us, when we reconnected, yeah we had a few things we needed to talk about.. but essentially it was like starting right where we'd left off. Together we have always been really intense and now is no exception except to say that it's even better now than it's ever been. One of the reasons we split up before was because he was separated from his wife but not legally divorced and he just didnt see a future for us so many miles away. His divorce was finalized in 2015 so now he is free to marry. He's twice divorced though, so we will have to get the decrees from both. As I said... uphill battle lol

[dentsflogged 352]

On 12/19/2017 at 4:33 PM, gregcrs2 said:

Could be as simple as having made too many trips to the USA.

How many trips is too many? And who decides that?
 

[gregcrs2 1,778]

13 minutes ago, dentsflogged said:

How many trips is too many? And who decides that?
 

Well definitely NOT ME.  CBP at POE decides.  I'm sure they have some guidelines as what how many trips is too many.