TOURIST VISA EXPIRED AND WORKING WITH FAKE SSN

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Speaking from someone whose Identity was stolen last year. Stealing someone's SSN is a felony in the US.

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28 minutes ago, ITD159 said:

Yes they married in US under his Tourist Visa, at least 10 yrs ago. Lived back and forth Italy and US with family. But he never ever got a perm residency and or Green Card. His Immigration attorney is working on that. Buu now that he is working let's say illegally..and with a fake SSN could possibly compromise evrything ?

I know of one person (personally know them) who not only crossed the border illegally, but also worked under a "fake" SSN...but it became more complex to unravel since her and her mother (a US citizen) shared the same first and last name, so the person used their mother's SSN number when applying for the job/opening a bank account/etc.

 

She ended up appearing before an immigration judge and pleaded her case.

 

I am not privy to every detail surrounding her case, however In the end she was able to adjust status legally (she also had 2 US-born children and a divorce from a USC spouse) and has the 10-year greencard now.

 

Yes, it could possibly compromise everything, but it also depends on many variable factors I suppose, given that she succeeded.

 

Note:  I am not advocating her situation in any way---just stating what happened in the end from my knowledge.

 

 

Edited December 19, 2017 by Going through

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31 minutes ago, CEE53147 said:

OP,  you are more worried about someone committing identity theft than the person whose life he is messing up.  Do you realize how many problems the use of a stolen SSN creates. Untangling all of the other issues, IMO, are secondary to the fact he is committing at least one crime.

 

Give that the person has committed crimes, he needs to engage an attorney - or two - rather than rely on a forum.

May be it's not STOLEN but simply FAKE. One hast to work to survive while waiting for the Court to examine his Green Card  self-petition. 

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6 minutes ago, ITD159 said:

May be it's not STOLEN but simply FAKE. One hast to work to survive while waiting for the Court to examine his Green Card  self-petition. 

Are you the person in question?

 

Just asking, since the original post seemed to look as though you were a third-party to all of this.

 

If you are the person in question, was the AOS/EAD ever filed during your marriage?

 

 

Edited December 19, 2017 by Going through

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Just now, Going through said:

Are you the person in question?

 

Just asking, since the original post seemed to look as though you were a third-party to all of this.

 

If you are the person in question, was the AOS ever filed during your marriage?

 

 

I am not the person in question, honestly. I am a third party. During their marriage AOS was never filed.

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Just now, ITD159 said:

I am not the person in question, honestly. I am a third party. During their marriage AOS was never filed.

He's definitely on shaky ground immigration-wise.  Using a fake SSN opens up another can of worms, too, not only for him but also his employer since he was aware/provided the fake SSN number.   That's not to say his situation is impossible to overcome with a very good immigration lawyer.

 

He may want to consult a criminal attorney as well----whether the SSN was "fake" or "stolen" doesn't discount the fact that it is still fraud either way.

 

 

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1 hour ago, kris&me said:

ICE finds out and deports and person has a ban

but IRS finds out and there is a federal trial and federal prison time and then a permanant ban for the federal crime

plus same federal crime by the boss

 

this is about as poor an idea as i have ever heard

This is rally the issue here.  There are two completely different things this guy is doing that can cause him real problems in the future.  He needs to consult with several attorneys for both the immigration issue and the fraudulent work issue.

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1 hour ago, ITD159 said:

May be it's not STOLEN but simply FAKE. One hast to work to survive while waiting for the Court to examine his Green Card  self-petition. 

Maybe they should have looked into a Tax Identification Number instead. https://www.irs.gov/individuals/individual-taxpayer-identification-number

 

Unfortunately they have now complicated the situation by faking/stealing a SSN. I am not very sympathetic to identity fraud as I have personally had someone steal my SSN. It took about 6 months to reclaim my identity, missed hours of work, multiple visits to the police station, and over 60 hours of phone calls. Not to mention I had no access to any of my financials for over 30 days because of the mess that was created.  

Edited December 19, 2017 by AshMarty

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OP mentioned this is in California, a Sanctuary State.

 

Millions use fake SSN's. Can not see one being that high up ICE's priority list, now if there are a few hundred working for this employer maybe.

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17 minutes ago, Boiler said:

OP mentioned this is in California, a Sanctuary State.

 

Millions use fake SSN's. Can not see one being that high up ICE's priority list, now if there are a few hundred working for this employer maybe.

Unbelievable ! California has adopted the most expansive “sanctuary state” law in the US with the goal of obstructing Donald Trump’s deportation agenda by prohibiting police in the country’s most populous state from cooperating with federal immigration authorities.

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22 minutes ago, ITD159 said:

Unbelievable ! California has adopted the most expansive “sanctuary state” law in the US with the goal of obstructing Donald Trump’s deportation agenda by prohibiting police in the country’s most populous state from cooperating with federal immigration authorities.

Here is an article that provides some insight of what a Sanctuary City means for the state of California.

 

"On October 5, 2017, Governor Jerry Brown signed a bill that makes California a "sanctuary state". In spite of this, it does not bar local and state agencies from cooperating with ICE regarding certain illegal criminals and ICE is still free to carry out raids targeting illegal aliens within the state."

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/05/555920658/california-governor-signs-sanctuary-state-bill

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2 hours ago, ITD159 said:

Meantime is applying for Green Card based on fact that his wife never granted him one

Spouses don't "grant" green cards. It appears you know very little about how family-based immigration works. That's not a criticism - unless they are personally involved in the process the average American has no idea how it works because they don't need to know how it works. And he cannot obtain one on the basis alone that his wife "didn't grant him one". 

 

Given that you know so little of the process, it's quite possible that he is here legally and you don't know about it. I don't discuss my immigration status with total strangers, so why would he? Maybe it's best to keep yourself out of matters that don't concern you. If you are asking these questions because you feel he is committing a crime of some sort and you want to see him punished, that's all well and good but there are people in this country committing far more heinous acts than working illegally to support their three children. Why not focus on them? 

 

I don't in any way condone illegal immigration. But I do question the motives of those who seem fixated on this matter like it's the worst thing to befall this country. The current administration has to take a lot of responsibility for this current hysteria over illegal immigration. 

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11 minutes ago, JFH said:

Spouses don't "grant" green cards. It appears you know very little about how family-based immigration works. That's not a criticism - unless they are personally involved in the process the average American has no idea how it works because they don't need to know how it works. And he cannot obtain one on the basis alone that his wife "didn't grant him one". 

 

Given that you know so little of the process, it's quite possible that he is here legally and you don't know about it. I don't discuss my immigration status with total strangers, so why would he? Maybe it's best to keep yourself out of matters that don't concern you. If you are asking these questions because you feel he is committing a crime of some sort and you want to see him punished, that's all well and good but there are people in this country committing far more heinous acts than working illegally to support their three children. Why not focus on them? 

 

I don't in any way condone illegal immigration. But I do question the motives of those who seem fixated on this matter like it's the worst thing to befall this country. The current administration has to take a lot of responsibility for this current hysteria over illegal immigration. 

Forgive the expression grant. I know the USC spouse fills in the form etc to obtain the green card for the non US spouse.Whatever Law number that can be or Visa number.... That never occured. And I can guarantee he is now in US with an ESTA Visa, , entered in US 18 October, meaning 3 months stay.

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Working illegal is typically forgiven for those immigrating with CR-1/IR-1 visas. However, as others have stated, the use of a false/stolen SSN is a criminal offense. I can't say for certain, but I imagine that a false SSN might be looked at differently than a stolen SSN (no direct victim vs. direct victim), but that may not matter in the case of an ongoing petition for immigration. Either way, this individual should contact an immigration lawyer and get some advice, as their immigration may be in jeopardy.

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7 minutes ago, ITD159 said:

Forgive the expression grant. I know the USC spouse fills in the form etc to obtain the green card for the non US spouse.Whatever Law number that can be or Visa number.... That never occured. And I can guarantee he is now in US with an ESTA Visa, , entered in US 18 October, meaning 3 months stay.

And why is this any concern to you? Is he using your SSN? Is he doing the job that you applied for but were not selected for? Are you the wife or one of the three children? 

 

I just don't understand your obsession with someone else's business that is causing no harm, that you have mentioned, to you. 

Edited December 19, 2017 by JFH