Admission at medical : marijuana

[Silvan125 0]

what is the worst case senario of an admission of taking a puff of marijuana 2 years ago to the doctor at the medical examination ? 1 year ban ? life time ban ? since all admittance of using marijuana can be used as crime since it's illegal nearly everywhere. im confused

i have no criminal record or arrests so i answered "no"on ds160 about violating any law relating to controlled substance since i have no criminal record and i am not a drug addict.

also i want to add after a small research on the department of state website defines substance abuse/addiction as  Drug abuse and drug addiction are current substance-use disorders or substance-induced disorders

so theoretically and  according to the DSM Manual of Mental Disorders "which doctors use to find an inadmissibility of abuse and addiction :

Anyone who has not engaged in using a controlled substance in the past 12 months can never have any substance disorder, also for the finding of substance abuse, the manual says that it has to be a pattren of use.

i'm really confused since seeing while searching the site that basically any admission ofmarijuana  lead to 1 year ban or lifetime ban

[Michael2017 368]

1 year ban is the usual result of admitting pot use in the past

[noraliz73 243]

The bottom line is that neither the beneficiary or petitioner will be able to use it in this country, even in states where it has been legalized.  I’m guessing that until it is legal under federal law, our beneficiaries better just say no even in places like Colorado.  I’m wondering if these bans and standards they have on visa applicants will ever change if it is legalized.  This is a big topic in my workplace because I work with inmates all day.  There are people in there for low level drug offenses and it costs our state millions and brings such heartache and trauma to families and neighborhoods.  I see from their side why immigration has these bans.  But, smoking a joint doesn't qualify you as an addict.  It’s thinking that you need it to function and not being able to do without it that does.  They just don’t have enough time to ask what type each person is.  This is up to your ethics, but does one puff of marijuana make you high?  I took a puff off a cigarette once and thought it was gross and that didn’t qualify as tobacco use?  Were you intending to get high?  I’m starting to sound like Bill Clinton.  One puff is different than smoking a joint once or getting high once in college.  It’s always good to be honest with them and I hope they have the ability to see the gray area and not just think in terms of black or white thinking.

   Sorry I wrote so much.  I try to be comforting, but this wait has me lonely and bored too.  Best wishes.  You will be together soon.

[JFH 12,191]

The way I see it, it's the fact that you have willfully done something that is illegal. And they therefore question your ability to observe the law. Is speeding by 5 mph over the limit just once wrong? Is drinking a sip of wine at age 19 here just once wrong? We could argue back and forth all day about whether a sip of wine turns you into a drinker, whether 5 over the limit makes you a dangerous driver but it all comes down to knowing something is wrong but doing it anyway. It's about your attitude, or what they perceive you be your attitude, towards the law of the land. 

 

I live in one of the first states to legalise marijuana. I see it being used everywhere. To me, it's no big deal. But it is still illegal at a federal level whether we agree with that or not. 

 

One-year bans have been commonplace for this issue with regular drug-testing throughout that period although recently someone in London got a shorter ban and someome at the Montreal embassy got no ban. I'd be prepared for a one-year ban and be glad if they are more lenient with you. 

[noraliz73 243]

40 minutes ago, JFH said:

The way I see it, it's the fact that you have willfully done something that is illegal. And they therefore question your ability to observe the law. Is speeding by 5 mph over the limit just once wrong? Is drinking a sip of wine at age 19 here just once wrong? We could argue back and forth all day about whether a sip of wine turns you into a drinker, whether 5 over the limit makes you a dangerous driver but it all comes down to knowing something is wrong but doing it anyway. It's about your attitude, or what they perceive you be your attitude, towards the law of the land. 

 

I live in one of the first states to legalise marijuana. I see it being used everywhere. To me, it's no big deal. But it is still illegal at a federal level whether we agree with that or not. 

 

One-year bans have been commonplace for this issue with regular drug-testing throughout that period although recently someone in London got a shorter ban and someome at the Montreal embassy got no ban. I'd be prepared for a one-year ban and be glad if they are more lenient with you. 

 

[noraliz73 243]

35 minutes ago, noraliz73 said:

 

That would especially apply if the person were coming from a country where the action were illegal.  But smoking weed in the Netherlands is not illegal.  Drinking wine at 19 in most of Europe is not illegal.  So unless a person was planning all their lives to come to the USA and starting applying American laws to their lives, that does not hold.  When my daughter was an exchange student in France at age 16, all her peers were drinking but she didn't.  She could have.  Gee, I was proud of that.  But yes, we want people here who value sobriety and laws and values often coincide, so point we'll made.

[Lemonslice 4,991]

29 minutes ago, noraliz73 said:

That would especially apply if the person were coming from a country where the action were illegal.  But smoking weed in the Netherlands is not illegal.  Drinking wine at 19 in most of Europe is not illegal.  So unless a person was planning all their lives to come to the USA and starting applying American laws to their lives, that does not hold.  When my daughter was an exchange student in France at age 16, all her peers were drinking but she didn't.  She could have.  Gee, I was proud of that.  But yes, we want people here who value sobriety and laws and values often coincide, so point we'll made.

France only has an age to purchase alcohol, perfectly legal to drink at any age. 

[Silvan125 0]

1 hour ago, noraliz73 said:

The bottom line is that neither the beneficiary or petitioner will be able to use it in this country, even in states where it has been legalized.  I’m guessing that until it is legal under federal law, our beneficiaries better just say no even in places like Colorado.  I’m wondering if these bans and standards they have on visa applicants will ever change if it is legalized.  This is a big topic in my workplace because I work with inmates all day.  There are people in there for low level drug offenses and it costs our state millions and brings such heartache and trauma to families and neighborhoods.  I see from their side why immigration has these bans.  But, smoking a joint doesn't qualify you as an addict.  It’s thinking that you need it to function and not being able to do without it that does.  They just don’t have enough time to ask what type each person is.  This is up to your ethics, but does one puff of marijuana make you high?  I took a puff off a cigarette once and thought it was gross and that didn’t qualify as tobacco use?  Were you intending to get high?  I’m starting to sound like Bill Clinton.  One puff is different than smoking a joint once or getting high once in college.  It’s always good to be honest with them and I hope they have the ability to see the gray area and not just think in terms of black or white thinking.

   Sorry I wrote so much.  I try to be comforting, but this wait has me lonely and bored too.  Best wishes.  You will be together soon.

thank you for your reply 

pretty much i will be happy with one year ban even tho i have no substance disorder or addiction that i have to put in remission.

i'm scared if my over-honesty cost me being banned for life, even tho i dont have a criminal record. since it's illegal to posess marijuana where i tried it but it was a one time college curiosity and i never bought it or anything

[Lemonslice 4,991]

10 minutes ago, chi6488 said:

If truly two puffs two years ago then any pot smoker knows there is NO way it will be detected with a test.  

 

Just say NO to using it

Get caught lying, be banned for life.  Your pick.

[Silvan125 0]

i dont think that's helpful in my case anyway. i always been an honest person as i had no troubles with the law or it has never been a major part of my life i thought honesty is the best policy 

but if i'm risking getting denied forever well...

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15 minutes ago, Silvan125 said:

i dont think that's helpful in my case anyway. i always been an honest person as i had no troubles with the law or it has never been a major part of my life i thought honesty is the best policy 

but if i'm risking getting denied forever well...

Stick to staying an honest person.

We do not know what the will Doctor put in your file. He has the discretion and some doctors have made it so there was no 1 year ban. It depends on what the Doctor puts in the medical.

 

 one puff of pot I doubt you would ever see a lifetime ban. Now go against your nature and lie if  you were ever  caught at any point, well you can lose it all. 

[noraliz73 243]

It is never the wrong thing to tell the truth.  You have a good quality of character.  We need good and decent people who will be honest and not cheat the system.  You'll make it eventually.  Hopefully sooner rather than later...

[Boiler 46,322]

For the record my first beer in a Public Hostelry was at the age of 16. My Grandfather bought.

 

Not one for the likes of MJ but have often wondered with the prevalence of it injestation we see very few reports of people suffering any consequences on here.

 

Well I may have missed them.

Edited December 17, 2017 by Boiler

[implife 318]

5 hours ago, Silvan125 said:

what is the worst case senario of an admission of taking a puff of marijuana 2 years ago to the doctor at the medical examination ? 

Two years ago???

Why would you ever bring this up? Under what circumstances?

Forget it. No one will care. You are not an addict.

Edited December 18, 2017 by implife