Graphic video shows Daniel Shaver sobbing and begging officer for his life before 2016 shooting

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

 

Cop should have gotten the death penalty. Instead he walked 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/12/08/graphic-video-shows-daniel-shaver-sobbing-and-begging-officer-for-his-life-before-2016-shooting/?utm_term=.239e64749f06

[jayjayj 571]

2 hours ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

 

Cop should have gotten the death penalty. Instead he walked 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/12/08/graphic-video-shows-daniel-shaver-sobbing-and-begging-officer-for-his-life-before-2016-shooting/?utm_term=.239e64749f06

Absolutely!  Why were they telling him to come toward them?  That can't be their protocol.  They should have been telling him to lay flat on the ground and not to move.  His reach back to try to pull his pants up did look exactly like someone trying to pull a weapon, but it should never have gotten to that point.  

Edited December 14, 2017 by jayjayj

[Dashinka 24,502]

36 minutes ago, jayjayj said:

Absolutely!  Why were they telling him to come toward them?  That can't be their protocol.  They should have been telling him to lay flat on the ground and not to move.  His reach back to try to pull his pants up did look exactly like someone trying to pull a weapon, but it should never have gotten to that point.  

I agree, the guy stayed there motionless the entire time they were taking the woman into custody, with an assault rifle pointed at him, and he motionless why couldn’t another officer go down and cuff him?  I know hindsight, and who knows what their ROEs are anymore, but this looked really bad.

[Voice of Reason 10,298]

This had nothing to do with ROE, it had to do with humiliation and control.  Consider what the cop wrote on the inside of his dust cover.  Listen to his tone and words to the murdered victim.

 

It is simply unbelievable that he walked on this.  He should be behind bars for a very long time.  Sad.

 

I hope the family sues for civil damages.

[Dashinka 24,502]

1 minute ago, IDWAF said:

This had nothing to do with ROE, it had to do with humiliation and control.  Consider what the cop wrote on the inside of his dust cover.  Listen to his tone and words to the murdered victim.

 

It is simply unbelievable that he walked on this.  He should be behind bars for a very long time.  Sad.

 

I hope the family sues for civil damages.

Keep in mind the officer giving the orders was not the officer with the rifle.  According to the article the family is suing Mesa for wrongful death.  

[bcking 3,157]

That was very sad to watch.

 

The instructions honestly didn't make sense. He told him to cross his legs, and keep them crossed...but then to pull himself up? Many people could not do that. That is just technically difficult.

 

Then he had him "keep his hands up", but also "crawl towards us". To me that is confusing since I'm not sure I could crawl while keeping my hands up. 

 

I know very little about law enforcement practices but I also always thought that once the person was cooperating and in a "defenseless position" (on the knees, hands up), one of the officers would approach him as opposed to getting him to crawl to them.

[smilesammich 10,727]

if i didn't know better, i'd think this was the first time any of ya'll witnessed excessive use of force by leo in this country. some of us have been sounding the alarm for quite some time..

[Dashinka 24,502]

14 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

if i didn't know better, i'd think this was the first time any of ya'll witnessed excessive use of force by leo in this country. some of us have been sounding the alarm for quite some time..

When has anyone ever said that police officers didn’t make mistakes?  

[smilesammich 10,727]

Just now, Bill & Katya said:

When has anyone ever said that police officers didn’t make mistakes?  

when did i say that no one ever said police officers don't make mistakes? 

[Dashinka 24,502]

Just now, smilesammich said:

when did i say that no one ever said police officers don't make mistakes? 

Your comment implied that some were just waking up to this fact.  If that was not what you were implying then please clarify.

[smilesammich 10,727]

2 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Your comment implied that some were just waking up to this fact.  If that was not what you were implying then please clarify.

you think that the cop that killed shaver just 'made a mistake'? i don't.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

28 minutes ago, bcking said:

That was very sad to watch.

 

The instructions honestly didn't make sense. He told him to cross his legs, and keep them crossed...but then to pull himself up? Many people could not do that. That is just technically difficult.

 

Then he had him "keep his hands up", but also "crawl towards us". To me that is confusing since I'm not sure I could crawl while keeping my hands up. 

 

I know very little about law enforcement practices but I also always thought that once the person was cooperating and in a "defenseless position" (on the knees, hands up), one of the officers would approach him as opposed to getting him to crawl to them.

It was if he was telling him to do the hookie pookie . The instructions were bizarre 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

6 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Your comment implied that some were just waking up to this fact.  If that was not what you were implying then please clarify.

Maybe she is saying you have not be stayed woke 

4 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

you think that the cop that killed shaver just 'made a mistake'? i don't.

I think it was an execution 

[smilesammich 10,727]

2 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

I think it was an execution 

some people are hot heads and shouldn't be in law enforcement whatsoever (unfortunately the nature of the work seems to draw this type in). also, he doesn't seem at all well trained (his commands are not protocol). 

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

Just now, smilesammich said:

some people are hot heads and shouldn't be in law enforcement whatsoever (unfortunately the nature of the work seems to draw this type in). also, he doesn't seem at all well trained (his commands are not protocol). 

as Dave said, did you read what he had etched on the inside of his dust cover