social media Surveillance of USC petitioners - 2nd Class Citizens now?

[millefleur 5,046]

11 hours ago, N-o-l-a said:

 

Noooo, but I mean nooooo.

 

Did they think the embassy was going to CSI the sheets and run DNA comparisons?

Exactly what I was about to say! What, is there a forensic science lab at the Embassy in Nigeria?

[ryna 132]

Where do they store the info from those of us who are natural-born citizens?  You know they collect it anyway but we don't have A-files.  Good old-fashioned FBI dossiers, J. Edgar Hoover style?

Edited December 30, 2017 by ryna

[Dashinka 24,375]

On ‎12‎/‎12‎/‎2017 at 4:08 AM, millefleur said:

How 'bout just don't use social media that much? I barely use social media myself and I don't feel compelled to. It's not a right to use social media platforms, it's a choice. And we've known about it for a while that the NSA collects data on individuals from Facebook and others. This really isn't that groundbreaking of a step from there.

 

Also, even before extreme vetting and whatnot, they always had the right to ask the private and invasive questions during the interview. The immigration process is a type of screening, whether we like it or not. This really isn't that radical of a step given what the NSA does already plus the fact that immigration offices essentially have the right to ask about and probe into anything they deem necessary to verify and/or suspicious for the sake of evaluating the case.

No doubt.  I asked my wife if she wanted to set up a FB account and she said no.  Now that we are heading to naturalization, this seems like a good idea and I have actually curbed my activity there as well.  I always wonder at those folks that post their every move on FB or wherever.  Why broadcast your location details to those that may not be totally innocent.

[N400Dallas 0]

I have heard and read through couple of articles on USCIS and DHS accessing social media, associated identifiable information, and search results” of any and all immigrants — including both permanent residents and naturalized citizens. In other words, if you’re an immigrant — or even just applying for the chance to be one — not only will you have to worry about the U.S. government combing through your various social-media profiles, but that they will also be able to obtain information on you through basically any and all digital means available since October of 2017. 

 

One of the example, in my opinion, is USCIS converting a paper application into digital application since last year. Another is USCIS sending a weekly or/and bi-weekly email and SMS saying, "Your case is still being reviewed"  "  where by motivating the applicants to check their application online and when they do they are retrieving the cookies and different types of caches information from Web browser. As this is possible as any developer who has worked with caching knows. What do you guys think about this? I have also added a link to an article on this topic.

 

http://nymag.com/selectall/2017/09/if-youre-an-immigrant-homeland-security-wants-your-twitter.html

 

 

 

 

Edited January 17, 2018 by N400Dallas

[TBoneTX 45,023]

Thread is moved from US Citizenship main forum to the US Immigration News forum and is merged with existing thread on the topic.

[qtime 24]

Big deal, they can check my cookies anytime. NSA already collects our information anyways. And do not let anyone tell you differently.

 

It s only those that have something to hide complain the loudest.

[N-o-l-a 7,167]

2 hours ago, qtime said:

 

It s only those that have something to hide complain the loudest.

 

Or those who complain the loudest might be concerned with individual liberties and freedoms.

 

You know that one of the contributing factors to the Revolutionary War was the British performing unreasonable searches and seizures?  It should outrage us all that the Supreme Court thinks so little of the 4th Amendment.

Edited January 17, 2018 by N-o-l-a

[N400Dallas 0]

Nola,

 

Very well said. I appreciate your optimistic view. Despite so much pessimism going around nowadays, you still want to see a brighter light. I applaud your view.

Edited January 17, 2018 by N400Dallas

[N-o-l-a 7,167]

2 hours ago, qtime said:

A lib response and a very very dangerous one at that. So instead of protection American citizens we should not look into backgrounds of those who want to come into the US. If we have tools to do a better job at vetting people why not use those tools. When I travel I can care less if they want to check my computer or phone I have nothing on my cp or phone to be concerned.

 

Our rights have Americans have already been upended by Bush and obama via the Patriot act so what is one more right gone

 

If lib = libertarian, why yes, then that is what a perspective that protects individual freedoms entails.

 

Of course you aren't worried because you aren't doing anything interesting, but there are any number of reasons a person could be worried, i.e. political or legitimate business reasons.  The most fundamental reason you should be worried is that privacy is something to be treasured and valued.  Electronic devices during a domestic police stop require a warrant to search for that very reason.  

[TBoneTX 45,023]

Several posts that escalated into bickering have been removed.  Reserve such argument for the Current Events forum.

[geowrian 22,337]

I don't think converting paper forms to digital ones is part of a grand scheme to find out hidden information about immigrants. Everything useful they could obtain via that access could be obtained via easier and more reliable means (even via sketchy warrant-less access to the ISPs' data). Everything they can see is the same that every other website I use on a daily basis sees.

[americanintrainin 20]

It's quite easy to pull up everyone's information w/ their email. Most major communication and social media (e.g. twitter, FB, etc) are tied to an email and can be queried by government officials quite easily. I'm sure your rank and file USCIS IO doing naturalization cases will not be bothered to look through that if you have a "clean" bill (i.e. not middle-eastern, eastern european, etc).

[JFox762 18]

This concerns me, as ummm I can be pretty uhhh... controversial on Social media. My FB is locked down so you can't see anything... but I fear that the USCIS likely are given back doors to view *EVERYTHING*. Considering the fact that the IRS used political affiliations as a determinating factor in auditing people... this greatly disturbs me.