social media Surveillance of USC petitioners - 2nd Class Citizens now?

[CDJ2016 3]

US CITIZENS - All data submitted in this immigration process and ALL publicly available data on the internet now collected by DHS??????   any guess,?      How long ?.  ....... (forever???) is this legal??? ,  warrantless searches ,,,, continue....  forever......  ???   For sure, It will be collected, vetted, investigated .......  and stored for 100 years after birth.  (.  ).......... 100 years then purged from the National archives....  -- - -  continually "mined" and the vetting ....... will continue for life!!!  ????    (Big data and Big Bot analytics) - and worse.....   All data can and will  be shared with anyone at anytime for any reason...  (at least reason  is not defined.... yet).   My files includes medical records. and family histories.... No longer protected under HIPA?  ....  (FuLL links at end.....)

US Immigration seekers - By choosing to becoming a U.S. citizen, you have shown  your commitment to the United States and your loyalty to its Constitution. In return, you will be rewarded with all the rights and privileges that are part of U.S. citizenship."................ .         BUT WE WILL BOTH L LOSE SOME FREEDOMS......... and safety. ...NOW OPEN TO intrusion.........searches,,,,,,,,,,,

 (The Bill of Rights protects the freedoms of speech, press, and religion; the right to keep and bear arms; the freedom of assembly; the freedom to petition; and Prohibits unreasonable search and seizure; cruel and unusual punishment; and compelled self-incrimination. The Bill of Rights also prohibits Congress from making any law respecting establishment of religion and PROHIBITS the Federal Government from depriving any person of liberty, property, without due process of law. )

 

- DHS is currently developing an "Extreme Vetting Initiative," which will deploy data-mining software to gather all public (and not public for the immigrant) digital, docs, records, posts, .likes .. (blog posts, career sites, dating sites, educational sites,.... lists of all search results..etc)

- Since 2012, Policy permits DHS to collect social media information about those seeking U.S. immigration status, those seeking benefit on behalf (USC) and it is the basis for last month’s A-File notice . .......On a Good Note:  ...........EFF joined coalition comments on October 18, 2017 in opposition to the A-File notice.

 

- 2015 - NOW - “expand” social media surveillance and achieve “systematic screening” of those seeking U.S. immigration status (e.g., U.S. naturalized citizen, lawful permanent resident, or work visa), according to a report by the DHS Inspector General.

 

The new DHS notice illuminates several critical things that the public previously did not know about DHS’s programs of social media surveillance of immigrants: 1) what data is being collected, 2) where this data is being stored, 3) how long this data is being retained, 4) what this data is being used for, and 5) whom this data is shared with.

 

1. WHAT: DHS collects “social media handles, aliases, associated identifiable information, and search results.”
2. WHERE: DHS stores this social media information in each immigrant’s “Alien File,” or “A-File” for short. This is a government record keeping system that tracks individuals as they move through the U.S immigration process, which may culminate in lawful permanent residency (a green card) or naturalized citizenship.
3. HOW LONG: It appears that DHS indefinitely stores social media information (and other data) in the A-File. The DHS notice states that the A-File is transferred to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) 100 years after the individual’s date of birth.
4. USE: DHS officials across this vast department can use the social media information (and other data) in the A-File for a myriad of purposes—41 are listed in the notice—including for intelligence gathering and counter-terrorism.

 

I. Retention of Social Media Information Will be Highly Invasive.

The notice reflects that DHS is collecting, and will now be retaining, using, and sharing, potentially vast amounts of social media information that will implicate both immigrants and U.S. citizens and expose their social media content to a myriad of entities, making this a highly invasive proposal.  The notice permits information in A-Files to be shared widely with a host of other government and private entities for a myriad of reasons, including to enforce a regulation or to obtain information for an investigation.  DHS’s policy will also chill the expressive activities of both naturalized and U.S.-born citizens’ free speech because DHS will have collateral access to these individuals’ social media content.  Department of Homeland Security could require non-citizens to provide the passwords to their social media accounts as a condition of entering the country.

 

 

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/10/dhs-should-stop-social-media-surveillance-immigrants

[Lee & Lei 42]

This is really nothing new. The personal privacy of all American Citizens, naturalized or not, went out the window with the Patriot Act anyway. The government has been collecting information on its citizens for years now. 

 

Just assume that the government has possession of any and all information about you that is on the internet. Just assume that anything you say during a phone call can be/is monitored and recorded.

 

Also, Facebook gives a good amount of ability to lock down your profile. If you choose, you can make it so that all that is "publicly available" from your FB account is your name and profile picture. Or just stop using social media altogether. 

Edited December 10, 2017 by Lee & Lei

[Spazmotic 34]

While this information seems interesting, you're flippant font size and boldness choices turned me off from reading anything more than the first sentence 

[Lee & Lei 42]

24 minutes ago, Spazmotic said:

While this information seems interesting, you're flippant font size and boldness choices turned me off from reading anything more than the first sentence 

Yeah, it's formatting gore for sure. 

[GoBig 25]

those law makers dont care about these at all.   they are looking for  bigger pictures .LOL...!

[Ontarkie 14,193]

~~Moved to US Immigration News and Discussion, from US Citizenship General Discussion- As this post is not asking about the N40 process.~~

[americanintrainin 20]

Where does it say this...? Are they actually collecting right now?

[CDJ2016 3]

3 hours ago, CDJ2016 said:

US CITIZENS - All data submitted in this immigration process and ALL publicly available data on the internet now collected by DHS??????   any guess,?      How long ?.  ....... (forever???) is this legal??? ,  warrantless searches ,,,, continue....  forever......  ???   For sure, It will be collected, vetted, investigated .......  and stored for 100 years after birth.  (.  ).......... 100 years then purged from the National archives....  -- - -  continually "mined" and the vetting ....... will continue for life!!!  ????    (Big data and Big Bot analytics) - and worse.....   All data can and will  be shared with anyone at anytime for any reason...  (at least reason  is not defined.... yet).   My files includes medical records. and family histories.... No longer protected under HIPA?  ....  (FuLL links at end.....)

US Immigration seekers - By choosing to becoming a U.S. citizen, you have shown  your commitment to the United States and your loyalty to its Constitution. In return, you will be rewarded with all the rights and privileges that are part of U.S. citizenship."................ .         BUT WE WILL BOTH L LOSE SOME FREEDOMS......... and safety. ...NOW OPEN TO intrusion.........searches,,,,,,,,,,,

 (The Bill of Rights protects the freedoms of speech, press, and religion; the right to keep and bear arms; the freedom of assembly; the freedom to petition; and Prohibits unreasonable search and seizure; cruel and unusual punishment; and compelled self-incrimination. The Bill of Rights also prohibits Congress from making any law respecting establishment of religion and PROHIBITS the Federal Government from depriving any person of liberty, property, without due process of law. )

 

- DHS is currently developing an "Extreme Vetting Initiative," which will deploy data-mining software to gather all public (and not public for the immigrant) digital, docs, records, posts, .likes .. (blog posts, career sites, dating sites, educational sites,.... lists of all search results..etc)

- Since 2012, Policy permits DHS to collect social media information about those seeking U.S. immigration status, those seeking benefit on behalf (USC) and it is the basis for last month’s A-File notice . .......On a Good Note:  ...........EFF joined coalition comments on October 18, 2017 in opposition to the A-File notice.

 

- 2015 - NOW - “expand” social media surveillance and achieve “systematic screening” of those seeking U.S. immigration status (e.g., U.S. naturalized citizen, lawful permanent resident, or work visa), according to a report by the DHS Inspector General.

 

The new DHS notice illuminates several critical things that the public previously did not know about DHS’s programs of social media surveillance of immigrants: 1) what data is being collected, 2) where this data is being stored, 3) how long this data is being retained, 4) what this data is being used for, and 5) whom this data is shared with.

 

1. WHAT: DHS collects “social media handles, aliases, associated identifiable information, and search results.”
2. WHERE: DHS stores this social media information in each immigrant’s “Alien File,” or “A-File” for short. This is a government record keeping system that tracks individuals as they move through the U.S immigration process, which may culminate in lawful permanent residency (a green card) or naturalized citizenship.
3. HOW LONG: It appears that DHS indefinitely stores social media information (and other data) in the A-File. The DHS notice states that the A-File is transferred to the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA) 100 years after the individual’s date of birth.
4. USE: DHS officials across this vast department can use the social media information (and other data) in the A-File for a myriad of purposes—41 are listed in the notice—including for intelligence gathering and counter-terrorism.

 

I. Retention of Social Media Information Will be Highly Invasive.

The notice reflects that DHS is collecting, and will now be retaining, using, and sharing, potentially vast amounts of social media information that will implicate both immigrants and U.S. citizens and expose their social media content to a myriad of entities, making this a highly invasive proposal.  The notice permits information in A-Files to be shared widely with a host of other government and private entities for a myriad of reasons, including to enforce a regulation or to obtain information for an investigation.  DHS’s policy will also chill the expressive activities of both naturalized and U.S.-born citizens’ free speech because DHS will have collateral access to these individuals’ social media content.  Department of Homeland Security could require non-citizens to provide the passwords to their social media accounts as a condition of entering the country.

 

 

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2017/10/dhs-should-stop-social-media-surveillance-immigrants

 

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

  Thanks to acts by non US persons against the US , the government has upped the monitoring of communications from outside the US to inside the US.  What freedom have you been denied ?   You can talk all you want.  Just it isn't as private as you assumed.  If you are talking normal stuff they never see it.  They are looking for triggering content or hidden talk.   The first scan is done by machine.   Although some of the things you are apt to talk about is in triggering content ( frequent mention of the word embassy , which is a high frequency attack location )  

[N-o-l-a 7,167]

The 4th amendment doesn't apply in the ways you think it does to national security or national borders, unfortunately.  It falls under the Supreme Court's special needs doctrine.

[millefleur 5,046]

How 'bout just don't use social media that much? I barely use social media myself and I don't feel compelled to. It's not a right to use social media platforms, it's a choice. And we've known about it for a while that the NSA collects data on individuals from Facebook and others. This really isn't that groundbreaking of a step from there.

 

Also, even before extreme vetting and whatnot, they always had the right to ask the private and invasive questions during the interview. The immigration process is a type of screening, whether we like it or not. This really isn't that radical of a step given what the NSA does already plus the fact that immigration offices essentially have the right to ask about and probe into anything they deem necessary to verify and/or suspicious for the sake of evaluating the case.

[Unlockable 7,314]

You guys realize you don't actually own the content you put on social media, right? You upload a photo to Facebook it becomes Facebook's  property.

 

Thought this was common knowledge.

[Little_Vixen 1,869]

 

On ‎10‎-‎12‎-‎2017 at 5:58 PM, NigeriaorBust said:

...They are looking for triggering content or hidden talk.   ... Although some of the things you are apt to talk about is in triggering content ( frequent mention of the word embassy , which is a high frequency attack location )  

Lol, which means just about anybody on this site.

 

I think the people reading our conversations will have a good laugh. We had some naughty talks about getting the interview date during his visit and 'showing' the embassy up close and personal how real our relationship is.

[NigeriaorBust 4,087]

1 hour ago, Little_Vixen said:

 

Lol, which means just about anybody on this site.

 

I think the people reading our conversations will have a good laugh. We had some naughty talks about getting the interview date during his visit and 'showing' the embassy up close and personal how real our relationship is.

  Someone in Nigeria actually presented soiled linens as part of their proof.   I was like OMG when I heard that one. 

[N-o-l-a 7,167]

7 hours ago, NigeriaorBust said:

  Someone in Nigeria actually presented soiled linens as part of their proof.   I was like OMG when I heard that one. 

 

Noooo, but I mean nooooo.

 

Did they think the embassy was going to CSI the sheets and run DNA comparisons?