Most Americans want Trump investigated for alleged sexual misconduct, poll finds

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

1 hour ago, smilesammich said:

lol. this thread is about trump. plenty of other threads about hillary. 

well talking about Presidents and sexual misconduct without talking about Bill Clinton, is like talking about McDonald and not mentioning hamburgers 

[smilesammich 10,727]

6 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

well talking about Presidents and sexual misconduct without talking about Bill Clinton, is like talking about McDonald and not mentioning hamburgers 

to the detriment of talking about our current president and his sexual misconduct? nah - distraction is all. bill clinton is a non issue right now, he's not in charge. sort of like saying, why do we expect trump fix ___ when obama didn't fix ____.

it's a pointless conversation. 

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What do you think most people would say if the were asked whether crooked politicians should go free or locked up?

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[The Nature Boy 7,659]

7 minutes ago, smilesammich said:

to the detriment of talking about our current president and his sexual misconduct? nah - distraction is all. bill clinton is a non issue right now, he's not in charge. sort of like saying, why do we expect trump fix ___ when obama didn't fix ____.

it's a pointless conversation. 

arguing what Clinton did is not relevant to the discussion, would be like arguing  Jurisprudence is unimportant in our Legal system. 

[yuna628 9,726]

1 minute ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

arguing what Clinton did is not relevant to the discussion, would be like arguing  Jurisprudence is unimportant in our Legal system. 

Okay NB. How about you get that vehicle out of the ditch and turn it into a Back to the Future style time machine. You get Bill to resign his Presidency, and then when you're finished get Trump to resign his. I think that's fair? We'd all be cool with that. Although you're going to have to put up with Al Gore as President and Pence. G'luck!

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

arguing what Clinton did is not relevant to the discussion, would be like arguing  Jurisprudence is unimportant in our Legal system. 

ok, so investigate bill (again) and trump. better?

[bcking 3,157]

The value of investigating a former President who has already served the maximal number of years in office and has no plans to pursue any other political office in the future pales in comparison to the value of investigating a current office holder.

 

Wasn't there a thread recently complaining about the cost of investigations and the waste? Investigating Clinton at this point would be a great example of waste.

 

We also can't use mistakes made 2 decades ago to justify continuing to make mistakes.

[jg121783 3,921]

3 hours ago, Il Mango Dulce said:

You are leaving out the part about all the women who have accused Trump of sexual assault and unwanted advances.

 

2 hours ago, bcking said:

If only it was just the access hollywood tape...then you would have a point. Both of their histories are based on allegations so you can't pretend that one story is "truth", and ignore the other.

Are mere accusations enough to convict someone? By the way Bill Clinton settled lawsuits so it wasn't just accusations with him.

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14 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

 

Are mere accusations enough to convict someone? By the way Bill Clinton settled lawsuits so it wasn't just accusations with him.

Settling a lawsuit isn't a conviction either.

 

Both have accusations. Clinton settled a lawsuit with Jones, which was for sexual harassment (not rape). 

[jg121783 3,921]

2 hours ago, bcking said:

Settling a lawsuit isn't a conviction either.

 

Both have accusations. Clinton settled a lawsuit with Jones, which was for sexual harassment (not rape). 

Settling a lawsuit is more of an admission than denying it. That's besides the point though. No one on the left demanded Bill Clinton resign but they demand Trump resign for essentially the same thing.

[yuna628 9,726]

10 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Settling a lawsuit is more of an admission than denying it. That's besides the point though. No one on the left demanded Bill Clinton resign but they demand Trump resign for essentially the same thing.

So when Trump has settled so many lawsuits, he has admitted guilt?

 

Settlements happen all the time. It does not make a person guilty under the law. In the court of public opinion which wildly varies perhaps, but nothing else.

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55 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Settling a lawsuit is more of an admission than denying it. That's besides the point though. No one on the left demanded Bill Clinton resign but they demand Trump resign for essentially the same thing.

As I've said elsewhere:

 

It isn't a convincing argument to make when you are comparing events from 20 years ago to now.

 

At best you can conclude that the Republican party now is acting like the Democratic party 20 years ago. Then what? Does that make it any better?

[jg121783 3,921]

1 hour ago, bcking said:

As I've said elsewhere:

 

It isn't a convincing argument to make when you are comparing events from 20 years ago to now.

 

At best you can conclude that the Republican party now is acting like the Democratic party 20 years ago. Then what? Does that make it any better?

Or you could conclude that unproven allegations are not a reason to demand someone resign and democrats choose to demand that only republicans resign over unproven allegations and democrats get a pass.

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12 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Or you could conclude that unproven allegations are not a reason to demand someone resign and democrats choose to demand that only republicans resign over unproven allegations and democrats get a pass.