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http://www.denverpost.com/2017/12/06/ricardo-corral-venegas-mexico-police-officer-aurora-rape/

 

A former police officer in Mexico who fled allegations of rape there was convicted on Wednesday of multiple sexual assault and burglary charges related to raping a woman at an Aurora apartment complex and then returning to terrorize another woman at the same complex.

An Arapahoe County jury convicted Ricardo Corral-Venegas, now 27, of raping at knifepoint on Oct. 4, 2016 a 26-year-old woman at the Santana Ridge complex in the 1300 block of South Geneva Way. After that rape, he returned days later to Santana Ridge and tried to force his way into another apartment, but an 18-year-old woman fought him off, according to authorities.

Corral-Venegas is a former police officer in Chihuahua, Mexico, where news reports have said he allegedly used a red motorcycle and pretended to be a courier when sexually attacking women. Corral-Venegas has been previously deported to Mexico for being in the country illegally, authorities said.

 

 

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Hmm, maybe somebody should build a wall...

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That would be racist, we need the diversity.

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  On 12/7/2017 at 7:50 PM, Bill & Katya said:

Hmm, maybe somebody should build a wall...

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And hopefully the world goes back in time at least 1,000 years so that a wall is sufficient to "keep people out".

 

Oh wait...even 1,000 years ago people got over walls...

 

You aren't going to find anyone here who agrees with people like him entering our country. A scumbag and rapist in Mexico is still a scumbag and rapist in the USA. At least for me, a wall just isn't going to do the job. It's going to waste a lot of money (and continue to waste a lot of money while it is being maintained) and I don't think we'll find any improvement in our safety or reduction in these events happening.

 

 

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  On 12/7/2017 at 7:52 PM, bcking said:

And hopefully the world goes back in time at least 1,000 years so that a wall is sufficient to "keep people out".

 

Oh wait...even 1,000 years ago people got over walls...

 

You aren't going to find anyone here who agrees with people like him entering our country. A scumbag and rapist in Mexico is still a scumbag and rapist in the USA. At least for me, a wall just isn't going to do the job. It's going to waste a lot of money (and continue to waste a lot of money while it is being maintained) and I don't think we'll find any improvement in our safety or reduction in these events happening.

 

 

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You say there is no one who agrees that people like him should enter the country and yet we have all these sanctuary cities just for people like him.

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  On 12/7/2017 at 9:11 PM, Bill & Katya said:

You say there is no one who agrees that people like him should enter the country and yet we have all these sanctuary cities just for people like him.

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Sanctuary cities aren't "for" rapists...

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  On 12/7/2017 at 9:16 PM, bcking said:

Sanctuary cities aren't "for" rapists...

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So you are saying the city will hand this guy over to the feds when his jail sentence is complete?

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  On 12/7/2017 at 9:17 PM, Steeleballz said:

 

    There are over 300,000 victims of rape and sexual assault each year in the USA. Most of those would have occurred with or without a wall along the border.

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But what if a wall stops even one rape?  We always hear we need more and more gun laws to stop even one death, why is this different, isn’t one life or rape victim worth the cost of the wall?

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  On 12/7/2017 at 9:17 PM, Bill & Katya said:

So you are saying the city will hand this guy over to the feds when his jail sentence is complete?

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No.

 

I was saying that sanctuary cities don't exist for rapists.

 

That doesn't mean they don't inadvertently protect some. That isn't their intention though.

 

That, to me, just argue towards improving sanctuary cities. I'd be all for them handing over rapists and murderers, and leave the non-violent people alone.

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  On 12/7/2017 at 9:20 PM, bcking said:

No.

 

I was saying that sanctuary cities don't exist for rapists.

 

That doesn't mean they don't inadvertently protect some. That isn't their intention though.

 

That, to me, just argue towards improving sanctuary cities. I'd be all for them handing over rapists and murderers, and leave the non-violent people alone.

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Not sure anybody is saying they are just for rapists.

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  On 12/7/2017 at 9:22 PM, Boiler said:

Not sure anybody is saying they are just for rapists.

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They aren't for rapists. That is what you asked.

 

They exist to protect non-violent illegal immigrants and make them feel safe, so they feel more willing to come forward and report things, or use services to help them and their family.

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  On 12/7/2017 at 9:18 PM, Bill & Katya said:

But what if a wall stops even one rape?  We always hear we need more and more gun laws to stop even one death, why is this different, isn’t one life or rape victim worth the cost of the wall?

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This may sound cold...

 

No it would not be worth it. While every case is abhorrent, we can't operate under the assumption that something is "worthwhile" as as a massive public policy as long as it stops a single event. A wall would cost trillions to build and maintain. That would not be worth it if it only stopped one case.

 

As for the comparison with guns laws:

 

1. Greater gun ownership restrictions would not cost anything like what a wall costs

2. Most people who support those restrictions would argue that they would prevent far more than a single event. Just like you would argue the wall would prevent more than one event.

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  On 12/7/2017 at 9:25 PM, bcking said:

They aren't for rapists. That is what you asked.

 

They exist to protect non-violent illegal immigrants and make them feel safe, so they feel more willing to come forward and report things, or use services to help them and their family.

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Joke?

  On 12/7/2017 at 9:28 PM, bcking said:

This may sound cold...

 

No it would not be worth it. While every case is abhorrent, we can't operate under the assumption that something is "worthwhile" as as a massive public policy as long as it stops a single event. A wall would cost trillions to build and maintain. That would not be worth it if it only stopped one case.

 

As for the comparison with guns laws:

 

1. Greater gun ownership restrictions would not cost anything like what a wall costs

2. Most people who support those restrictions would argue that they would prevent far more than a single event. Just like you would argue the wall would prevent more than one event.

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So it is just about money?

 

 

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  On 12/7/2017 at 7:52 PM, bcking said:

And hopefully the world goes back in time at least 1,000 years so that a wall is sufficient to "keep people out".

 

Oh wait...even 1,000 years ago people got over walls...

 

You aren't going to find anyone here who agrees with people like him entering our country. A scumbag and rapist in Mexico is still a scumbag and rapist in the USA. At least for me, a wall just isn't going to do the job. It's going to waste a lot of money (and continue to waste a lot of money while it is being maintained) and I don't think we'll find any improvement in our safety or reduction in these events happening.

 

 

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But if saves only a few lives. Oh wait that's gun control 

 

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