DENIED B1/B2 TWICE

[Filguy29 8]

6 hours ago, Maxheadspace said:

How much did/do you have in your bank account?  You should have $5,000 or more in an account under your name, plus your job history, plus your house (is it titled in your name?) and anything else that shows your strong ties back home.  Not only are they looking to see if you are a risk to stay in the US, but they also want to know that you have funds to survive and return home should something catastrophic happen while you're in the US.  Since you don't have family in the US, it's even more important to show the bank account.  As for them looking through your passport at other visas, they're not looking to see how many countries gave you visas, they're looking to see if you spent time in Pakistan or Iran or North Korea (definitely not favorable for your application).  Also, if you told the CO that you want to "see what the US has to offer," that kind of sounds like you're looking to see if you can find a job in the US.  Same thing if you have a vague itinerary, as in, "I just want to hitchhike across the USA and experience life."  Have a solid itinerary..."I'm going to see New York on Tuesday, Washington, DC on Saturday, then fly to the Grand Canyon Monday, and then return back to Saudi Arabia on Friday, and here's my travel itinerary and return tickets."  The things you said you have sounds to me like you're a good candidate for approval (if you are also showing them a bank statement with at least $5,000), so there must be something in how you're presenting it.  If you've already done all these things then I'm puzzled as to why you weren't approved. 

Hi, yes during that time I have more than 5k in my account.. and since CO didnt asked for it, it was just in my folder and its like no use at all...

[Filguy29 8]

6 hours ago, Springrain22 said:

Hey, don't you have a boyfriend in California? It seems that you do. Did you mention about him in your application? This could be of the reasons. As the CO, I'd think that you'll stay with your American boyfriend (who, by the way, is American citizen) and will try to adjust status from your tourist visa.

 

Your also want to marry him. Probably, by visiting as a tourist, riiight?

 

So the CO was right denying you. No visa for you. Want to marry? Ok, and then CR1.

 

Hey..yes, I have a bf...i didnt mention him in my application bcoz it might just complicate the things knowing that we have not seen yet in person only thru chat/videocalls so it is very hard to defend in this case.. my main purpose is purely for tourism and nothing else.. given i was granted a visa, I will never marry him on B2 visa,, why shud I? this may result for visa fraud for not using the right visa to get marry...

 

since we gonna met in Canada early nextyr, then me may apply for K1 visa for us...

[Filguy29 8]

6 hours ago, Going through said:

Would have been helpful if the whole story was told by the OP in the beginning.

 

Makes sense why you were denied twice, now.

 

CO's are generally very smart people, and can pick up on misrepresentation pretty quick.

Hi... it is very hard to claim that I have bf and not meeting him yet..it sounds more likely complicated..he is not part in my application so I don't think, it has something to do with my tourist visa application denials..

[Filguy29 8]

6 hours ago, iamdegie said:

first of all, you have a high obstacle to climb as a single filipino applying for a b1/b2. having traveled to a lot of other first world countries helps increase your chances. but some COs want a long travel history, some are satisfied with just one or two, it depends. looked like your CO may have wanted the former hence the first denial. you were on the right track in traveling to more countries after that first denial. you should have given it more time and slowly built up your travel history. but then you went and applied again so soon after (first try in july, second try in nov) and with no material changes to your circumstances. hence the 2nd denial. your additional travel in between does not matter. the other unused visas don't matter either as at this stage they look more like they are for show to get the US visa. if you disclosed anywhere in your application your US based boyfriend, then that could have worked against you too.

 

the CO does not need to see your passport or documents during the interview at all. they have all the info they need from your application form to make a decision. i think the worst thing you did here is applying too soon after that first denial. it sends off the signal that you are too desperate for the visa. applying soon again (even in 2018) unless something major changes in your circumstances will mostly result in a 3rd denial.

Hello... you have the point.. in my first&second application i did not disclosed my bf for the reason that we have not seen yet and it might just complicate the things... he might think, i will marry my bf once I entered US which is not on my vocabulary...

 

My first application was in Jeddah, but since I was on my annual vacation last nov2017 that's why I tried again my luck after I visited dubai, france, belgium&NL.

[Filguy29 8]

6 hours ago, Maxheadspace said:

Being misleading to the CO about his intent, AND never having met his "BF"?  He's got an uphill climb with this one.

He could not peition for fiance visa bcoz we havent seen each other yet.. and he was not part in my applications bcoz claiming something without some proof, its like a joke..no solid evidence that we are a couple..my purpose is purely really for tourism.

[Filguy29 8]

1 hour ago, caliliving said:

I knew their was more to this story.

So obvious this guy is getting  a visa from every first world country go prove he will go to America and return

 

This guy has dotted his Is and crossed the Ts..or so he thought. 

hello. I agree with you.. my main purpose is purely for tourism..since Ive got schengen visa, that is why I am trying my luck for U.S visa...

[Filguy29 8]

5 hours ago, mcdull said:

How could anyone who chatted over the internet possible commit marriage upon the first real life meet-up?!

 

That is like ordering an 8,000 dollar high heel from bergdorfgoodman dot com with no return allowed. 

My dear  it is happening.. my friend married to her German fiancee on their first meeting in Philippines and they did their wedding in HK... it is up to the couple if they want to get married if they are sure with each other even on the first meeting...

 

successful marriage can not be measured by means of knowing/meeting your partner for a long time.. you will never know what future brings.. so do not judge base on what you have understand on my situation...

[Filguy29 8]

5 hours ago, Boiler said:

Definitely focussed.

 

I was wondering how long this was going to run, also party to the other thread.

this is all bout my B2 visa application and there is no connection with my prev thread.. they are different scenario....

[Springrain22 427]

1 hour ago, Filguy29 said:

this is all bout my B2 visa application and there is no connection with my prev thread.. they are different scenario....

I don't think so. I think it's all connected from the day one.

[Filguy29 8]

5 minutes ago, Springrain22 said:

I don't think so. I think it's all connected from the day one.

I dont agree.I did not mention him in my B2 application and whats the connection between my denial and planning to get married him in Canada?

 

my other thread is all about planning to get married with my bf in Canada.. whats the connection between my B2 denial?

[Springrain22 427]

Just now, Filguy29 said:

I dont agree.I did not mention him in my B2 application and whats the connection between my denial and planning to get married him in Canada?

 

my other thread is all about planning to get married with my bf in Canada.. whats the connection between my B2 denial?

The connection is that CO was very good and doing their job. Somehow they felt that you hid something behind and you were denied. If you were granted a visa, you'd easily marry him in the USA without hassle and without any needs to go to Canada for that. What you did is called mispresentation and is very serious. You had someone is the US and didn't mention about it. It doesn't matter if you met in person or you didn't, it doesn't matter. What does is that you might easily misuse your visa.

 

You may think whatever you like but the CO's main job is to prevent any immigration fraud and in this case it worked just perfectly. 

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8 minutes ago, Filguy29 said:

 

my other thread is all about planning to get married with my bf in Canada.. whats the connection between my B2 denial?

At some point in your visa process to US, K1 or CR1 you will disclose how long you've been in a relationship and they will notice thst when you applied B1/B2 you did not disclose this information which is misrepresenting yourself. So now your visa will be questioned more heavily because you misrepresented yourself twice before. Why would they believe you now? 

 

If apply a third time it looks, as others said, like you're desperate to get here and your reasons for coming are minimal. If you marry in CA or hsve another application pending there's practically no chance you (I'm not saying everyone, just you) of getting approved as you have obvious immigration intent. Once you're here you just adjust status and don't have to leave. Super easy for you after showing how much you want to come. 

 

A home in the PI you don't live in already is not any kind of tie. 

[Filguy29 8]

27 minutes ago, Springrain22 said:

The connection is that CO was very good and doing their job. Somehow they felt that you hid something behind and you were denied. If you were granted a visa, you'd easily marry him in the USA without hassle and without any needs to go to Canada for that. What you did is called mispresentation and is very serious. You had someone is the US and didn't mention about it. It doesn't matter if you met in person or you didn't, it doesn't matter. What does is that you might easily misuse your visa.

 

You may think whatever you like but the CO's main job is to prevent any immigration fraud and in this case it worked just perfectly. 

If I was granted a visa, I will not use it also to get married as this will surely create a problem in the future. if we can do it in right way, then we will..

 

Would it be safe if I will declare him in this column in my next application if I want to? and relationship should be boyfriend? or a friend? by that time, we already met each other in Canada...

 

[Springrain22 427]

2 minutes ago, Filguy29 said:

If I was granted a visa, I will not use it also to get married as this will surely create a problem in the future. if we can do it in right way, then we will..

 

Would it be safe if I will declare him in this column in my next application if I want to? and relationship should be boyfriend? or a friend? by that time, we already met each other in Canada...

 

You surely can. But the question you'll face during your interview will be why you did not declare him in your previous application. Never lie to the US officials. It will bite you very hard as you can feel now.

[Filguy29 8]

4 minutes ago, Springrain22 said:

You surely can. But the question you'll face during your interview will be why you did not declare him in your previous application. Never lie to the US officials. It will bite you very hard as you can feel now.

I would say that, I consider him only as my bf after our official meeting in Canada and I hope this question will not be asked too in the future...

 

Thank you for your comments.. I am still planning to visit UK&Canada on 2018 and after that I may re-apply again most probably by 2019 so at least there is over a year gap...