Visa questions about Morocco

[jaws2003 1]

Hello Everyone, 

 

I have been following the site for a while and have been registered but I am finally making the step to meet a woman that I met online in Morocco. We met through an online dating site and I intend to meet her this coming February. Some background about us and then I have some questions. We are both Muslim and I live am a USC and she is a Moroccan citizen. We both have a college education and we are close in age. I am 33 and she will be 31 on the 15th of December. I do have a child from a previous relationship but I was not married to my son's mother. She does work for a French company in Morocco and she can speak 3 languages. She also has a passport of her own and she has studied abroad here in the USA about 5 years ago for one semester through her university and she does travel frequently(mainly to Europe). She does not have any family members that live in the USA but she does have friends from studying abroad and other Moroccans that have immigrated to the US. I haven't found out anything about the bride price other than her dad usually requires the husband to have a place for his daughters to live and some money to give to the family(this part has me nervous as I do not know the price he will ask). He also doesn't speak English and I only know a few phrases of Arabic(She said she would translate but I prefer to speak with her dad on my own if possible). I found out this information through the young woman. My questions are listed below: 

 

1. From reading on here it looks like K-1 visas get denied a lot is it typical for people to go the CR-1 route for Morocco? 

 

2. Will her constant traveling to Europe be a red flag? 

 

3. Will her semester of studying abroad in the US be a red flag? 

 

4. She and I are in favor of a marriage contract will we have to file a prenuptial or post nuptial agreement in the US if we decide to marry? 

 

5.    Will her Moroccan friends(that immigrated to USA) possibly raise a red flag to the CO? 

 

6. She is attempting to get her Master's there in Morocco would that cause a conflict with the visa application(K-1 or CR-1) if we decide to go forward(It's a one year program)? 

 

7. I only can take one week off from my job so if things go well then I will plan another visit in the summer. Can  multiple one week visits be sufficient for the application? 

 

8. Will me having a child from a previous relationship be a roadblock if we decide to marry in Morocco? 

 

 

[usmsbow 801]

1. It is generally Moroccan men that have difficulty getting a K-1 visa, not so much women.

 

2. No, certainly not.

 

3. No, why would it be?

 

4. No, why?

 

5. No.

 

6. No. The k-1 is taking about a year now, and the cr-1 is more than a year long now I believe.

 

7. Probably. 

 

8. No idea. 

 

And do you speak French? Your fiancee's dad probably does, and it is a lot easier to learn than Moroccan Arabic IMO. 

 

 

[Russ&Caro 1,549]

As far as traveling to other countries, including the US, on legal visas and abiding by all the restrictions on such visas, then returning home within the allotted time - those are usually good things in a person's favor when applying for another visa.

[EandH0904 1,184]

22 minutes ago, jaws2003 said:

1. From reading on here it looks like K-1 visas get denied a lot is it typical for people to go the CR-1 route for Morocco? 

A lot of men get visas denied - women not as frequently on the K1, but it still happens. There are few (average 8) K1 visas given out in Morocco each month which is very few compared to how many petitions are given. 

Source: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/visa-law0/visa-statistics/nonimmigrant-visa-statistics/monthly-nonimmigrant-visa-issuances.html

 

2. Will her constant traveling to Europe be a red flag? 

No, not at all. 

 

3. Will her semester of studying abroad in the US be a red flag? 

No, not at all. 

 

4. She and I are in favor of a marriage contract will we have to file a prenuptial or post nuptial agreement in the US if we decide to marry? 

You don't have to file anything - that's completely up to you. 

 

5.    Will her Moroccan friends(that immigrated to USA) possibly raise a red flag to the CO? 

It's possible - do they all live by you? Did they introduce you to each other? 

 

6. She is attempting to get her Master's there in Morocco would that cause a conflict with the visa application(K-1 or CR-1) if we decide to go forward(It's a one year program)? 

The K1 is almost taking a year now, so she should have time to complete this. 

 

7. I only can take one week off from my job so if things go well then I will plan another visit in the summer. Can  multiple one week visits be sufficient for the application? 

No. Obviously they prefer you have MORE facetime together, the more, the stronger the application. 

 

8. Will me having a child from a previous relationship be a roadblock if we decide to marry in Morocco? 

No. Would you want to take your son with you to meet her? Do they video chat? Talk? 

 

Having answered your questions, Morocco does seem to be difficult, but as I said, less for women than men. Right now with how long the processing is (almost a year for a K1, 12-14 months for CR1) There are certain benefits that doing a CR1 has over a K1 (she can work/go to school/travel as soon as she gets here) but it takes about 2 weeks to get married in Morocco. It's up to you two to ultimately decide where to get married. If her family really wants to be there for her wedding, you might consider doing CR1 instead. I would suggest NOT filing after the first visit, at least doing 2 visits before filing for a K1 or getting married, to strenghten your chances of having a successful application - especially since they are shorter visits. 

 

I just got married 2 weeks ago in Morocco after a failed/returned K1, so if you have questions about the procedure there that she isn't able to answer, feel free to send me a message. 

[Boiler 45,524]

I would not pay too much attention to others going through that Consulate, your situation is very different to the the ones we see normally.

[jaws2003 1]

1 hour ago, usmsbow said:

1. It is generally Moroccan men that have difficulty getting a K-1 visa, not so much women.

 

2. No, certainly not.

 

3. No, why would it be?

 

4. No, why?

 

5. No.

 

6. No. The k-1 is taking about a year now, and the cr-1 is more than a year long now I believe.

 

7. Probably. 

 

8. No idea. 

 

And do you speak French? Your fiancee's dad probably does, and it is a lot easier to learn than Moroccan Arabic IMO. 

 

 

I do not speak French. Only English and Spanish. I asked her if her dad does speak French and it was only a little. He speaks Arabic and her mom as well. Only she and her younger sister speak French. 

1 hour ago, Russ&Caro said:

As far as traveling to other countries, including the US, on legal visas and abiding by all the restrictions on such visas, then returning home within the allotted time - those are usually good things in a person's favor when applying for another visa.

That is good to know. Glad that can work in my favor. 

[jaws2003 1]

1 hour ago, EandH0904 said:

Having answered your questions, Morocco does seem to be difficult, but as I said, less for women than men. Right now with how long the processing is (almost a year for a K1, 12-14 months for CR1) There are certain benefits that doing a CR1 has over a K1 (she can work/go to school/travel as soon as she gets here) but it takes about 2 weeks to get married in Morocco. It's up to you two to ultimately decide where to get married. If her family really wants to be there for her wedding, you might consider doing CR1 instead. I would suggest NOT filing after the first visit, at least doing 2 visits before filing for a K1 or getting married, to strenghten your chances of having a successful application - especially since they are shorter visits. 

 

I just got married 2 weeks ago in Morocco after a failed/returned K1, so if you have questions about the procedure there that she isn't able to answer, feel free to send me a message. 

Thank you for the information. I was worried about that before with people getting denied. Also thanks for the offer as well. 

[jaws2003 1]

1 hour ago, Boiler said:

I would not pay too much attention to others going through that Consulate, your situation is very different to the the ones we see normally.

Ok then.  Just curious how is my situation different?  

[usmsbow 801]

16 minutes ago, jaws2003 said:

Ok then.  Just curious how is my situation different?  

 

Primarily: 

1. You're male and she's female.

2. She's been to the EU and USA, and has traveled frequently. 

 

To a lesser extent: 

 

3. You're both Muslim.

4. You're close in age.

 

 

[Boiler 45,524]

1 hour ago, usmsbow said:

 

Primarily: 

1. You're male and she's female.

2. She's been to the EU and USA, and has traveled frequently. 

 

To a lesser extent: 

 

3. You're both Muslim.

4. You're close in age.

 

 

USC is older

 

You both seem well educated

 

A few others, the only thing I can see in common is that you are a USC and have a child..

[jaws2003 1]

On 12/4/2017 at 4:40 PM, usmsbow said:

 

Primarily: 

1. You're male and she's female.

2. She's been to the EU and USA, and has traveled frequently. 

 

To a lesser extent: 

 

3. You're both Muslim.

4. You're close in age.

 

 

Those are very good to know. When I was looking for a person to talk to I had certain qualities that I was looking for. Also seems like Morocco was one of those countries where a lot of women would want to talk to me. 

On 12/4/2017 at 5:49 PM, Boiler said:

USC is older

 

You both seem well educated

 

A few others, the only thing I can see in common is that you are a USC and have a child..

Yes. I made sure of this from researching earlier. 

[nomadnoor 29]

1. From reading on here it looks like K-1 visas get denied a lot is it typical for people to go the CR-1 route for Morocco? 

Morocco is a high visa fraud country.  So you have a greater likelihood of not being denied through the IR/CR1 route.

 

2. Will her constant traveling to Europe be a red flag? 

No not as long as you can document the reason for it and its not seen as a conflict for settling and making her and yours home permanently in the US.

 

3. Will her semester of studying abroad in the US be a red flag? 

No.

4. She and I are in favor of a marriage contract will we have to file a prenuptial or postnuptial agreement in the US if we decide to marry? You will have an Islamic marriage contract because that's how its done in the US.  You can include any stipulations that you would find in a prenup in that contract and or draw up a separate one, get it translated and legalized in Morocco.

 

5.    Will her Moroccan friends(that immigrated to USA) possibly raise a red flag to the CO? 

No.

 

6. She is attempting to get her Master's there in Morocco would that cause a conflict with the visa application(K-1 or CR-1) if we decide to go forward(It's a one year program)?   It will need to be finished by the time you hit the NVC stage.

 

7. I only can take one week off from my job so if things go well then I will plan another visit in the summer. Can  multiple one week visits be sufficient for the application? 

You need to document it and I recommend adding "bonafide relationship letters," to your I130 application.

 

8. Will me having a child from a previous relationship be a roadblock if we decide to marry in Morocco?

No

 

Ally & Omar 

[jaws2003 1]

Thank you everyone for your input. I have another questions that was raised by the Moroccan lady that I do not know the answer to. If she applies for a tourist visa to come and see me and for some reason it is denied would that affect her chances when a K1 or CR1 is filed? She also tried to apply for a student visa after her study abroad was up and was denied. She just told me this. 

[Boiler 45,524]

2 hours ago, jaws2003 said:

Thank you everyone for your input. I have another questions that was raised by the Moroccan lady that I do not know the answer to. If she applies for a tourist visa to come and see me and for some reason it is denied would that affect her chances when a K1 or CR1 is filed? She also tried to apply for a student visa after her study abroad was up and was denied. She just told me this. 

No impact

 

Why was she refused a Student Visa?

[jaws2003 1]

10 hours ago, Boiler said:

No impact

 

Why was she refused a Student Visa?

According to her she did not have enough money in her account. I thought that only applied to a tourist visa.