Evidence with both addresses

[Henley1989 10]

Im sure this has been covered, just cant seem to find specific answer.

 

Hopefully a simple one.

 

When I submitted AOS I was at one address. We moved and I submitted a change of address to USCIS. Now im putting together evidence for i-751. For things like bank statements, should I submit from both addresses? Majority are from new address.. If I do submit from both, do I specify that in my cover letter or just submit a mix?

 

 

[Wuozopo 4,293]

Submit a mix. They will catch on. They see it every day. And why not show you have lived together at two different address? Good proof. 

It's doubtful your cover letter will make to an adjudicator's hands so explaining in a cover letter is likely a waste of time in my opinion.  

[Henley1989 10]

Thanks for that. Appreciate it. I have 2 years worth of bank statements, just deciding whether to print every month in full/a selection of months in full/basic statement for every month.... 

[Wuozopo 4,293]

2 hours ago, Henley1989 said:

Thanks for that. Appreciate it. I have 2 years worth of bank statements, just deciding whether to print every month in full/a selection of months in full/basic statement for every month.... 

I did four total. Earliest, two middle-ish, latest. My bank does thumbnails of checks that cleared. My wife picked months where it showed both of us had written checks. She is mostly the check writer, but purposely made me write some because she said it would look good for immigration to show we both actually used the account. She threw in a few extra months of the thumbnail only page that were especially good. I think that went further than a thick stack of same old same old. I mean if you had an account in January, then in August you had the same bank and account number, wouldn't it be obvious you had that account Feb through July as well? I just don't get why people send every bank statement,

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[nightingalejules 678]

@Wuozopo, I think some people send in every bank statement because none of us can really anticipate what the USCIS officers "want to see." There are some people who get approved without any RFE, and they only send one bank statement, and then others who seem to get an RFE after having sent multiple months throughout the marriage. 

Logically, you're absolutely right... if you had an account in January and the same account in August, logically you had that account the whole time. But not everything USCIS does seems particularly logical.

I didn't send too many statements, (and I also haven't heard anything yet) but if I do get an RFE, I'm going to send every page of every statement for every single thing I can think of. Bury them in paperwork! I feel bad for the trees I will kill but after waiting 15 1/2 months for this, I'm not going to mess around if they want more!

[Henley1989 10]

14 hours ago, Wuozopo said:

I did four total. Earliest, two middle-ish, latest. My bank does thumbnails of checks that cleared. My wife picked months where it showed both of us had written checks. She is mostly the check writer, but purposely made me write some because she said it would look good for immigration to show we both actually used the account. She threw in a few extra months of the thumbnail only page that were especially good. I think that went further than a thick stack of same old same old. I mean if you had an account in January, then in August you had the same bank and account number, wouldn't it be obvious you had that account Feb through July as well? I just don't get why people send every bank statement,

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That is my thought exactly. However ive been reading about people that didnt sent every one in and they got an RFE. I think its down to as a whole does the adjudicator think there is enough evidence. So its kind of a risk but I think Im going to send a few random ones in full (so they can see transactions) - Im not going to send 2 years worth of 3 joint accounts/credit cards - thats rediculous.

 

Thanks

[Henley1989 10]

6 hours ago, nightingalejules said:

@Wuozopo, I think some people send in every bank statement because none of us can really anticipate what the USCIS officers "want to see." There are some people who get approved without any RFE, and they only send one bank statement, and then others who seem to get an RFE after having sent multiple months throughout the marriage. 

Logically, you're absolutely right... if you had an account in January and the same account in August, logically you had that account the whole time. But not everything USCIS does seems particularly logical.

I didn't send too many statements, (and I also haven't heard anything yet) but if I do get an RFE, I'm going to send every page of every statement for every single thing I can think of. Bury them in paperwork! I feel bad for the trees I will kill but after waiting 15 1/2 months for this, I'm not going to mess around if they want more!

Agree. Logic is the key here which USCIS doesnt seem to be too fond of. I will send a bunch of them over the 2 years to show continued use of account, but I dont see any need to send 24 full statements for each of our 3 joint accounts

[Wuozopo 4,293]

I think it is more important to show a variety of things with dates spanning the two years and choose things that are meaningful.

 

For example, we have a savings account that had just sat there with a small balance and never an additional deposit or withdrawal made in the two years. Yes it was a joint account, but we didn't choose to send it because even a fraudster could put $200 in a joint account for appearance without a financial burden. More effective was an account with tens of thousands that had actual balance swings. 

 

Credit card statements:  They did not have both names on them. Useless so none sent. But photocopying four sets of major credit cards with  each of our names and matching account numbers  showed we shared four accounts. And that only took one piece of paper. 

 

Also don't forget a  smattering of things that show small things couples do with dates from early, middle and recent. They may join a gym (ID cards), adopt a dog (both names), take a free community college course (IDs, registering for same class), his/her library cards, buy cars ( both name on sales form), send photo Christmas cards.   If you can provide a good variety showing couple life, I think you won't get an RFE for not sending 24 rendundant bank statements per account.  

 

 

[Henley1989 10]

21 hours ago, Wuozopo said:

I think it is more important to show a variety of things with dates spanning the two years and choose things that are meaningful.

 

For example, we have a savings account that had just sat there with a small balance and never an additional deposit or withdrawal made in the two years. Yes it was a joint account, but we didn't choose to send it because even a fraudster could put $200 in a joint account for appearance without a financial burden. More effective was an account with tens of thousands that had actual balance swings. 

 

Credit card statements:  They did not have both names on them. Useless so none sent. But photocopying four sets of major credit cards with  each of our names and matching account numbers  showed we shared four accounts. And that only took one piece of paper. 

 

Also don't forget a  smattering of things that show small things couples do with dates from early, middle and recent. They may join a gym (ID cards), adopt a dog (both names), take a free community college course (IDs, registering for same class), his/her library cards, buy cars ( both name on sales form), send photo Christmas cards.   If you can provide a good variety showing couple life, I think you won't get an RFE for not sending 24 rendundant bank statements per account.  

 

 

Yes that makes sense - Im trying to collect as many variations of letters and bills that have both our names on it. Our apartment bills are all stupidly in my name (lease is in both our names)..

 

So far I have:

 

Checking Statements

CC Statements

Car Insurance

Health Insurance

Lease Agreement

Tax returns

Baby registry

Baby birth certificate

Pictures

401k Beneficiary

 

 

[Wuozopo 4,293]

25 minutes ago, Henley1989 said:

Yes that makes sense - Im trying to collect as many variations of letters and bills that have both our names on it. Our apartment bills are all stupidly in my name (lease is in both our names)..

 

So far I have:

 

Checking Statements

CC Statements

Car Insurance

Health Insurance

Lease Agreement

Tax returns

Baby registry

Baby birth certificate

Pictures

401k Beneficiary

 

 

You have some good stuff. We only had this from your list:

Checking Statements

CC Statements (photocopy of cards)

Car Insurance (3: early, middle, recent dates)

Tax returns (3 joint)

Pictures (variety of holidays with family groups and some just looking normal in our home painting walls or cooking. We tried to look like everyday people and not posed in front of the Eiffel Tower)

 

My wife's adult kids were her 401k beneficiaries, all bills and house in her name, don't share health insurance, too old for babies.  Yet still easily approved with just the four bank statements (checking and money market) and the extra couple things mentioned before including a trip or two showing boarding passes with seats together. Don't forget to photocopy both driver licenses to document both live at same address.

 

 

[Henley1989 10]

4 minutes ago, Wuozopo said:

You have some good stuff. We only had this from your list:

Checking Statements

CC Statements (photocopy of cards)

Car Insurance (3: early, middle, recent dates)

Tax returns (3 joint)

Pictures (variety of holidays with family groups and some just looking normal in our home painting walls or cooking. We tried to look like everyday people and not posed in front of the Eiffel Tower)

 

My wife's adult kids were her 401k beneficiaries, all bills and house in her name, don't share health insurance, too old for babies.  Yet still easily approved with just the four bank statements (checking and money market) and the extra couple things mentioned before including a trip or two showing boarding passes with seats together. Don't forget to photocopy both driver licenses to document both live at same address.

 

 

 

Thanks. For our child born here there is nothing I need in terms of K-2 right? She was born as a US citizen.

 

Im pretty sure I have some good stuff but would rather send a little more to hopefully avoid RFE. 

[Wuozopo 4,293]

3 minutes ago, Henley1989 said:

 

Thanks. For our child born here there is nothing I need in terms of K-2 right? She was born as a US citizen.

 

Im pretty sure I have some good stuff but would rather send a little more to hopefully avoid RFE. 

 

K2 is a visa you get in London to bring a kid over. Does not apply to your child who is American and does nothing with USCIS. 

[Henley1989 10]

4 minutes ago, Wuozopo said:

 

K2 is a visa you get in London to bring a kid over. Does not apply to your child who is American and does nothing with USCIS. 

 

Ta. Gonna start the printing this evening...