Why Flynn’s plea is a dead end for ‘Russiagate’ conspiracy

[jg121783 3,921]

https://www.rt.com/usa/411687-flynn-plea-mueller-analysis/

[Dashinka 24,870]

I know the source of this article will be ridiculed and probably not read, but it is interesting.  I was hearing many people talk about this part yesterday as well.

 

“So what about the frantic insistence of “Russiagate” partisans that Flynn’s plea practically portends the downfall of the president they refuse to accept as legitimate? Their elation is unwarranted and premature, warns McCarthy. If a prosecutor has a cooperating witness who is an accomplice in a criminal scheme, the plea is structured so it proves the existence of the scheme.”

 

No mention of any underlying scheme in the plea agreement to my knowledge.  This whole business does prove one thing, why would anyone say anything to the FBI?

 

 

[jg121783 3,921]

No amount of convictions for crooked toe nails and removing tags from mattresses is going to make up for the fact that there are no nefarious connections between Trump and the Russians.

[ready4ONE 5,400]

Actually I'm leaning towards nefarious connections on the Russian side, inept bungling dupes as the best case scenario on Team Trump, and alas still the possibility of actual collusion but the 'Only the Best' Trump surrounds himself with are already ginning up the 'idiot' defense which sadly might actually work given the tireless efforts to prove stupidity daily over the last year.

 

P.S. Of course RT is going to put some effort into saving Vlad's puppet, why wouldn't they?

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

 

I never grow tired of watching the MDL, exclaim eureka time after time, only to be proven time and time again they are wrong

 

 

 

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/01/abc-news-issues-corrects-bombshell-michael-flynn-report.html

ABC News clarifies, then corrects its bombshell report of Michael Flynn's discussions with Russia

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15 minutes ago, Nature Boy Flair said:

 

I never grow tired of watching the MDL, exclaim eureka time after time, only to be proven time and time again they are wrong

 

 

 

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/01/abc-news-issues-corrects-bombshell-michael-flynn-report.html

ABC News clarifies, then corrects its bombshell report of Michael Flynn's discussions with Russia

Yep, a new president is elected and his team is talking to foreign ambassadors.  Oh the outrage!

 

[jg121783 3,921]

1 hour ago, ready4ONE said:

Actually I'm leaning towards nefarious connections on the Russian side, inept bungling dupes as the best case scenario on Team Trump, and alas still the possibility of actual collusion but the 'Only the Best' Trump surrounds himself with are already ginning up the 'idiot' defense which sadly might actually work given the tireless efforts to prove stupidity daily over the last year.

 

P.S. Of course RT is going to put some effort into saving Vlad's puppet, why wouldn't they?

So far all I see is 5 million dollars an about a year wasted to go after a couple people for a crooked toe nail and still no evidence whatsoever of Russian collusion by Trump. 

[jg121783 3,921]

40 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Yep, a new president is elected and his team is talking to foreign ambassadors.  Oh the outrage!

 

Something would be wrong with Trump if he wasn't talking to one of the world's biggest nuclear super powers.

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58 minutes ago, jg121783 said:

Something would be wrong with Trump if he wasn't talking to one of the world's biggest nuclear super powers.

And someone the US is working with in Syria however tenuous.

[The Nature Boy 7,659]

I been in Chest,  I guess about 6 or 7 years. I never fail to appreciate the logic fail that usually goes hand in hand , with a reading comphresion flame.

[yuna628 9,744]

7 hours ago, jg121783 said:

No amount of convictions for crooked toe nails and removing tags from mattresses is going to make up for the fact that there are no nefarious connections between Trump and the Russians.

If we do discover there's actually a deep nefarious fungus under the nail bed will you be convinced or content to let it fester? When the foot falls off, will it still be faux news or will you acknowledge the gravity of the situation? Some people don't realize until it's too late, sadly.

Edited December 3, 2017 by yuna628

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24 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

If we do discover there's actually a deep nefarious fungus under the nail bed will you be convinced or content to let it fester? When the foot falls off, will it still be faux news or will you acknowledge the gravity of the situation? Some people don't realize until it's too late, sadly.

Isn’t this what many were saying about Hillary?  It seems the DOJ/FBI let her off when many thought there was no way.  Regardless, so far the only evidence we have of a campaign working with a foreign agent is from the DNC/Hillary campaign.  Sure they hid that fact by calling it legal fees through their law firm, but it seems pretty clear this resulted in hiring a foreign agent to assist in their campaign.

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16 minutes ago, Bill & Katya said:

Isn’t this what many were saying about Hillary?  It seems the DOJ/FBI let her off when many thought there was no way.  Regardless, so far the only evidence we have of a campaign working with a foreign agent is from the DNC/Hillary campaign.  Sure they hid that fact by calling it legal fees through their law firm, but it seems pretty clear this resulted in hiring a foreign agent to assist in their campaign.

But many would say there is pretty strong evidence something very bad was going on in the Trump campaign. Your perspective differs from theirs on it, so who is right? I would be quite comfortable in allowing the SP to continue investigating Trump and then investigating Hillary's dealings when finished... but I'm not in charge.. so.

 

My question to a Hillary supporter is the same as to a Trump supporter:

What if we do find out they did something very bad? What would it take for you to believe?

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23 minutes ago, yuna628 said:

But many would say there is pretty strong evidence something very bad was going on in the Trump campaign. Your perspective differs from theirs on it, so who is right? I would be quite comfortable in allowing the SP to continue investigating Trump and then investigating Hillary's dealings when finished... but I'm not in charge.. so.

 

My question to a Hillary supporter is the same as to a Trump supporter:

What if we do find out they did something very bad? What would it take for you to believe?

Where is the evidence?  Didn’t the Obama or Bush transition teams make contact with foreign ambassadors during the transition period.  Why is that ok for them, but not for the Trump team?  Is there a different standard?  As to something bad during the campaign, I would think all of that would have come out with Manafort, but so far he is only being charged with issues that had nothing to do with the campaign.  I realize many in the MDL want this to be the end to Trump, but I still don’t see what was untoward in their transition.  What really concerns me is the precedent this entire special procecutor business is setting, it seems that now we will need to have the DOJ appoint a special prosecutor each time a presidential election occurs.

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3 hours ago, yuna628 said:

But many would say there is pretty strong evidence something very bad was going on in the Trump campaign. Your perspective differs from theirs on it, so who is right? I would be quite comfortable in allowing the SP to continue investigating Trump and then investigating Hillary's dealings when finished... but I'm not in charge.. so.

 

My question to a Hillary supporter is the same as to a Trump supporter:

What if we do find out they did something very bad? What would it take for you to believe?

This again.  What criminal scheme do you believe the Trump campaign or Trump himself was involved in?  I'm open to listen.  Many people on here can go into great detail about what crimes they suspect the Clinton's committed, and provide evidence.  I've asked several times in other threads and we are still waiting for someone to detail what exactly they think Trump did.  If you think he is going to be impeached, then he must have committed a crime, what is the crime?